Pros/Cons of Intinction in My Parish

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Brendan said:
They discussed the matter with the priest.

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Important, yes. Critical no.**

The Church also says that Form A of the Penitential Rite ( I Confess to Almighty God) is a fuller sign of Reconcilliation with our brothers mentioned in Matthew 5:23, but many priests omit it in favor of the shorter forms ( Lord Have Mercy…)

So, even in the interest of time value alone, a priest may choose to offer only a single species (as they often do for the Penitential Rite).

Cardinal Arinze did send a letter to the US bishops stating that having too many vessels for a Deacon or Priest to cleanse by themselves is also grounds for offering of a single species.

nccbuscc.org/liturgy/cleansingofvessels.pdf
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I really could care less if it’s “critical” or not.

It’s very important and it’s not something I would forgo if it were my decision.
 
Spiller said:
The Church says the sign value of communion under both kinds is important and I fully agree. I personally would always try to find a way to offer communion under both kinds.
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The Council Fathers would disagree with you there: “The dogmatic principles which were laid down by the Council of Trent remaining intact, communion under both kinds may be granted when the bishops think fit, not only to clerics and religious, but also to the laity, in cases to be determined by the Apostolic See, as, for instance, to the newly ordained in the Mass of their sacred ordination, to the newly professed in the Mass of their religious profession, and to the newly baptized in the Mass which follows their baptism.” (Sacrosanctum Concilium, n. 55).

I have another post that shows the progression from the suggestions made in SC n. 55 to the widespread permission found in the 2002 GIRM. Briefly stated:

1963 - The Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy provided three suggestions for occasions on which both kinds should be offered.

1970 - A document is provided that lists specific occasions on which both kinds may be offered. Another document states that “Ordinaries are not to grant blanket permission but, within the limits set by the conference of bishops, are to specify the instances and celebrations for this form of communion. To be excluded are occasions when the number of communicants is great. The permission should be for specific, structured, and homogeneous assemblies.”

1975 - The GIRM echoes the 1970 statements.

2002 - The GIRM (not just the US version, but the Latin version as well) gives each diocesan Bishop the power to establish his own norms for Communion under both kinds. He may even give pastors of parishes permission to determine, for themselves, when to allow the practice “provided that the faithful have been well instructed and there is **no danger of profanation **of the Sacrament or of the rite’s becoming difficult because of the large number of participants or some other reason”.

Clearly, something happened in those intervening 25 years. The permission as it stands today is simply in opposition to the instruction from 1970, and far exceeds what the Council envisioned.
 
I’ve never been to a Roman Catholic parish in my life where intinction was practiced. I have been to an Eastern Catholic rite parish where the priest dips the bread into the wine with a spoon and basically ‘feeds’ the communicant. As far as I am aware, intinction is not a general practice in the RC Church. We have Communion and then, if we wish to partake of the cup, there are extraordinary ministers who are available to offer that to us.
 
peary said:
I’ve never been to a Roman Catholic parish in my life where intinction was practiced. I have been to an Eastern Catholic rite parish where the priest dips the bread into the wine with a spoon and basically ‘feeds’ the communicant. As far as I am aware, intinction is not a general practice in the RC Church. We have Communion and then, if we wish to partake of the cup, there are extraordinary ministers who are available to offer that to us.
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Sure it is. It’s an approved (and quite common in some locations) means of receiving communion in the Latin Rite church
 
Spiller said:
Sure it is. It’s an approved (and quite common in some locations) means of receiving communion in the Latin Rite church
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:crossrc:

Well, I live in the Midwest USA presently, and have been to Mass in Wisconsin, Texas, Indiana, Kentucky, California, and Italy. Never once have I ever seen intinction except in an eastern rite.
 
peary said:
:crossrc:

Well, I live in the Midwest USA presently, and have been to Mass in Wisconsin, Texas, Indiana, Kentucky, California, and Italy. Never once have I ever seen intinction except in an eastern rite.
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I’m sorry to hear that. Even the Pope distributed communion in this manner on occasion when he visited the USA.
 
Spiller said:
I’m sorry to hear that. Even the Pope distributed communion in this manner on occasion when he visited the USA.
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The Church recognizes intinction as valid, I suppose, but Christ didn’t do this at the Last Supper. The bread was separate; the wine was separate, although together they are one Lord. Separately, they are also one Lord.
 
peary said:
The Church recognizes intinction as valid, I suppose, but Christ didn’t do this at the Last Supper. The bread was separate; the wine was separate, although together they are one Lord. Separately, they are also one Lord.
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OK, and?
 
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