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Sola Scriptura is a principle for judging doctrine and practice. It’s not a principle for determining Scripture.
Which brings me back to a point I made to someone earlier: Then Anythings Goes!
Jubilees, Enoch, Anything and Everything is acceptable as Scripture.
I do not have enough knowledge about Wisdom to say why it was considered non-canonical.
LUCKY WE HAVE THE ROMAN CATH-… oh yeah, right, pentacostal.
I know the deuterocanonical books were generally suspect because they were not found in the Hebrew canon.
A Hebrew Canon which did not officially exist until the time of Rabbi Akiva*
after the the Fall of the Temple. And I’m sorry, but I didn’t realize “Hebrew”
was a religion or that the Creator is (eternally) a Hebrew speaking Israelite.
“What the Greek? GOD DOESN’T SPEAK GREEK!” :rolleyes:

*(Men like Rabbi Akiva were overtly
antichristian, and their canon is the
one nonCatholics like the most).
The pseudepigraphical nature of the work probably didn’t help matters. But, as I said, I don’t have enough knowledge on the specific reasons.
It just so happens that the early Christian community may have shown
some awareness that the book was not actually authored by Solomon,
as the Muratorian fragment notes that the book was “written by the
friends of Solomon in his honour.”

Now I don’t mean to play the Mormon-Card, but find out where to
read the Book of Wisdom, then turn to Chapter Two, and tell me
that it clearly has nothing to do with Christ. (Worth noting, by the way, that Wisdom
was written at least 60 to 100 years BE-
FORE Jesus).
 
Which brings me back to a point I made to someone earlier: Then Anythings Goes!
Jubilees, Enoch, Anything and Everything is acceptable as Scripture.
Protestants don’t accept anything and everything as Scripture, so I don’t even know why you bring that up.
Now I don’t mean to play the Mormon-Card, but find out where to
read the Book of Wisdom, then turn to Chapter Two, and tell me
that it clearly has nothing to do with Christ. (Worth noting, by the way, that Wisdom
was written at least 60 to 100 years BE-
FORE Jesus).
Just because something is prophetic or speaks truth does not make it canonical. People speak and write the truth and the prophetic even today.
 
Protestants don’t accept anything and everything as Scripture, so I don’t even know why you bring that up.
Well you were talking about Sola Scriptura, which “Only Scripture,” but what’s “On-
ly Scripture” if you use only part? I admit, looking back now, that what I said might
have KINDA been out of the blue, so for that sorry.
Just because something is prophetic or speaks truth does not make it canonical. People speak and write the truth and the prophetic even today.
Be that as it may, Wisdom is clearly God-Breathed,
was ac-cepted as God-Breathed, maybe not by ALL
Jews, but not ALL Jews agreed what was Scripture.

One of the reasons why Wisdom was excluded, again, from the Jewish Canon (AFTER)
the time of Jesus, was because Early Christians were using Wisdom as a proof text for
Jesus, and Protestants take Rabbi Akiva’s side on that?!

Under your paradigm which you just gave, we have no idea what is Scripture, be-
cause the Holy Spirit clearly didn’t guide the Early Church in accepting Wisdom,
right? ANYONE can write write down truth, doesn’t mean it belongs in the Bible.
WHO NEEDS SONG OF SONGS? Or Ruth? How much Scripture is really lost
were we to drop Esther? Does God really care?

So the New Testament quotes Wisdom 51 times, doesn’t make it God’s Word, meant
for us as Scripture. SERIOUSLY, what is YOUR criteria for what is and what is not at
all Scripture? Not why Wisdom is “considered non-canonical,” but overall, what is the
Scriptures and how do we know what belongs in and out of the Canon?
 
I know the deuterocanonical books were generally suspect because they were not found in the Hebrew canon.
OH, it might be worth noting also that Wisdom was in fact one of the Deuterocanonical Books written in Hebrew, believe it or not.
 
SERIOUSLY, what is YOUR criteria for what is and what is not at
all Scripture? Not why Wisdom is “considered non-canonical,” but overall, what is the
Scriptures and how do we know what belongs in and out of the Canon?
Overall, criteria would be apostolicity, spiritual content, doctrinal soundness, usage, and, most important, evidence of divine inspiration.
 
Overall, criteria would be apostolicity, spiritual content, doctrinal soundness, usage, and, most important, evidence of divine inspiration.
Not sure what you mean by “apostolicity,” but I believe the Deuterocanon does fulfill all those needs. 🙂
 
Except Jerome changed his opinion later on, Luther is a heretic,
and Cajetan is only ONE Cardinal. Books have been disputed,
yes, but they were never officially excluded from the Bible.
Hi JT,

Maybe it’s just me but I am always mildly amused when Protestants appeal to St. Jerome to ‘prove’ that Luther was only doing what respected Catholic Saints did with regard to the Deuterocanonical Books. Actually the story of Jerome does prove something but from the Protestant point of view, it is completely the wrong thing and way too much of that. The following is based on something of I wrote a long, long time ago (like in the previous millennia).

St Jerome went to Rome in about 360 where he became a Catholic. From there he went to Antioch where he was ordained as a priest. In 382 he became the secretary to and confident of Pope Damasus who directed him to translate from Greek and Hebrew, a Bible in Latin. Jerome worked on this version, known as the Vulgate from about 390 until 405. All of the books of both Testaments were in wide circulation by the time of Jerome and in various translations. After the death of Pope Damasus in 382, St. Jerome’s position in Rome became tenuous. He then spent time in Antioch and Alexandria before settling in Bethlehem in 386.

Most Protestant Biblical historians and most Protestant apologists write of Jerome as if he were the ultimate authority on which books should be included in the Bible and which should not. They revere him because he wanted to keep the Apocrypha in a separate section of the Bible. However, he was overruled and rebuked by Damasus, a point rarely mentioned by protestant Biblical historians. When Jerome was rebuked by Pope Damasus, he recanted his position. “Jerome later withdrew his objections, after being rebuked by the pope.” Fr. Collins (Catholic) and Price (Protestant) , “The Story of Christianity, 2000 Years of Faith”,

Some Protestant historians have said that the Pope “suggested” that Jerome translate the Bible, as if it would seem logical that a Pope would “suggest” that his secretary “volunteer” to do a small little project that would actually take more than 10 years. First of all, is it really possible to think that a Pope would “suggest” that his secretary take on a task that would take more than a decade, or is it more likely that Jerome was ordered by or commissioned by the Pope to do it? Maybe that is how it actually happened. Very few of these Protestant historians mention that Damasus rebuked Jerome, or that he recanted his position, or that Damasus decreed in 382 that the Canon of the Bible was closed and that it included the Apocrypha. Neither do they mention the fact that the Council of Rome in 382 and a council of Carthage in 397 both confirmed the decision of Damasus to close forever the canon of the Bible. (Story of Christ. Page 61) We do know that the same list of books that were confirmed by the Council of Trent in 1545-1563 were the exact list of books that were canonized and held firm for all time by the Roman Synod of Pope Damasus in 382.

Maybe it went something like this: Pope Damasus: “Hey Jerome, If you don’t have anything else to do for the next 20 years or so, how about deciding what books to put in that Bible thing that everybody is always mentioning.” And while you are at it maybe translate whatever books you want in there from the Greek and Hebrew into Latin? That is of course if you have the time and want to, and think it would be fun and all that stuff. I promise that I won’t bother you about it and promise that whatever you decide will be OK with me and all of those Bishop guys. Just think, you get to make all those really cool decisions about that Bible thing and everyone from now until the end of time will be reading what you decide to put in there and how all the word stuff should go. By the way, there’s a Sainthood in it for you and you don’t even have to agree with me or any of the boys or anything.”

Maybe it happened just like that, like the Protestant version. I can see it happening just like that. After all, if I had been the Pope at the time, I’m sure that I would have handled it just like that.

There also seems to be a preference in Protestant commentaries to depict Jerome as ‘revising’ the Bible. This of course would provide an historical precedent for Luther’s wholesale ‘tinkering’ with the Holy Scriptures. As an example, there are many references to Jerome “revising” in “The Book, A History of the Bible, by Christopher De Hamel (Anglican) (page 14 and many others). Again, I’m sure that that is what Damasus had in mind was Jerome, his Secretary, ‘revising’ the Bible. Translating, yes, but not ‘revising’. However, remember, since it was Luther that revised the Bible it would be helpful for someone, especially a Saint to be a previous ‘reviser’ of the Bible. It should also be pointed out that Jerome took decades to translate the Bible, whereas it took Luther only 11 weeks (part time) to ‘translate’ the New Testament. One of these efforts was a painstaking academic effort and the other was a rushed and hurried effort that did not at all do justice to Holy Scripture. I leave it to the each individual to determine (under the guidance of the Holy Spirit of course) which was which.

If Jerome was commissioned by the Pope, then the Pope had the last say about whether any books would be eliminated or downgraded. Nothing that Jerome did was “definitive” or downgraded or final in any way until it was made so by the Pope. Which raises the question – who, (specifically and exactly) ‘commissioned’ Luther to translate the New Testament. If in fact, he commissioned himself, the way he did as a Theologian competent to reject and rewrite dozens of Christian doctrines, then – why did he find it necessary to ‘translate’ the New Testament?

More on Jerome shortly.

God Bless, Topper
 
In its essence the absence of these books have nothing to do with their canonical status. Since the original KJV and Bibel both had them.

It has to do with it being cheaper to sell and the fact that they were not used by most of the dissenting factions in Protestantism. Now, it’s a little late to change and compete with all these “study” versions.

I honestly cannot even begin to comprehend how a book like Wisdom is not included:

Wisdom 2:12 “Let us lie in wait for the righteous man, because he is inconvenient to us and opposes our actions;he reproaches us for sins against the law,and accuses us of sins against our training. 13 He professes to have knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord. 14 He became to us a reproof of our thoughts; 15 the very sight of him is a burden to us,because his manner of life is unlike that of others,and his ways are strange. 16 We are considered by him as something base,and he avoids our ways as unclean;he calls the last end of the righteous happy, and boasts that God is his father. 17 Let us see if his words are true,and let us test what will happen at the end of his life; 18 for if the righteous man is God’s son, he will help him,and will deliver him from the hand of his adversaries. 19 Let us test him with insult and torture, that we may find out how gentle he is, and make trial of his forbearance. 20 Let us condemn him to a shameful death, for, according to what he says, he will be protected.” 21 Thus they reasoned, but they were led astray, for their wickedness blinded them, 22 and they did not know the secret purposes of God,

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I honestly cannot even begin to comprehend how a book like The Prayer of Manasseh is not included:
[11] And now I bend the knee of my heart,
beseeching thee for thy kindness.
[12] I have sinned, O Lord, I have sinned,
and I know my transgressions.
[13] I earnestly beseech thee,
forgive me, O Lord, forgive me!
Do not destroy me with my transgressions!
Do not be angry with me for ever or lay up evil for me;
do not condemn me to the depths of the earth.
For thou, O Lord, art the God of those who repent,
[14] and in me thou wilt manifest thy goodness;
for, unworthy as I am, thou wilt save me in thy great mercy,
[15] and I will praise thee continually all the days of my life.
For all the host of heaven sings thy praise,
and thine is the glory for ever. Amen.

Jon
 
=Judas Thaddeus;11562068] Which brings me back to a point I made to someone earlier: Then Anythings Goes!
Jubilees, Enoch, Anything and Everything is acceptable as Scripture.
Apparently so. Even the communions (once united now in schism from each other) that date back to Pentecost can’t decide on what is or isn’t canonical.

LUCKY WE HAVE THE ROMAN CATH-… oh, yeah, right…EO, Coptic, etc.

Jon
 
Hi JT,

Maybe it’s just me but I am always mildly amused when Protestants appeal to St. Jerome to ‘prove’ that Luther was only doing what respected Catholic Saints did with regard to the Deuterocanonical Books. Actually the story of Jerome does prove something but from the Protestant point of view, it is completely the wrong thing and way too much of that. The following is based on something of I wrote a long, long time ago (like in the previous millennia).

Most Protestant Biblical historians and most Protestant apologists write of Jerome as if he were the ultimate authority on which books should be included in the Bible and which should not. They revere him because he wanted to keep the Apocrypha in a separate section of the Bible. However, he was overruled and rebuked by Damasus, a point rarely mentioned by protestant Biblical historians. When Jerome was rebuked by Pope Damasus, he recanted his position. “Jerome later withdrew his objections, after being rebuked by the pope.” Fr. Collins (Catholic) and Price (Protestant) , “The Story of Christianity, 2000 Years of Faith”,​

Very few of these Protestant historians mention that Damasus rebuked Jerome, or that he recanted his position, or that Damasus decreed in 382 that the Canon of the Bible was closed and that it included the Apocrypha. Neither do they mention the fact that the Council of Rome in 382 and a council of Carthage in 397 both confirmed the decision of Damasus to close forever the canon of the Bible. (Story of Christ. Page 61) We do know that the same list of books that were confirmed by the Council of Trent in 1545-1563 were the exact list of books that were canonized and held firm for all time by the Roman Synod of Pope Damasus in 382.

Maybe it happened just like that, like the Protestant version. I can see it happening just like that. After all, if I had been the Pope at the time, I’m sure that I would have handled it just like that.

There also seems to be a preference in Protestant commentaries to depict Jerome as ‘revising’ the Bible. This of course would provide an historical precedent for Luther’s wholesale ‘tinkering’ with the Holy Scriptures. As an example, there are many references to Jerome “revising” in “The Book, A History of the Bible, by Christopher De Hamel (Anglican) (page 14 and many others). Again, I’m sure that that is what Damasus had in mind was Jerome, his Secretary, ‘revising’ the Bible. Translating, yes, but not ‘revising’. However, remember, since it was Luther that revised the Bible it would be helpful for someone, especially a Saint to be a previous ‘reviser’ of the Bible. It should also be pointed out that Jerome took decades to translate the Bible, whereas it took Luther only 11 weeks (part time) to ‘translate’ the New Testament. One of these efforts was a painstaking academic effort and the other was a rushed and hurried effort that did not at all do justice to Holy Scripture. I leave it to the each individual to determine (under the guidance of the Holy Spirit of course) which was which.

If Jerome was commissioned by the Pope, then the Pope had the last say about whether any books would be eliminated or downgraded. Nothing that Jerome did was “definitive” or downgraded or final in any way until it was made so by the Pope. Which raises the question – who, (specifically and exactly) ‘commissioned’ Luther to translate the New Testament. If in fact, he commissioned himself, the way he did as a Theologian competent to reject and rewrite dozens of Christian doctrines, then – why did he find it necessary to ‘translate’ the New Testament?

More on Jerome shortly.

God Bless, Topper
The very reason Jerome acquiesed is because the Pope rebuked him. And the pope had commissioned him, so he had the last word. Is that your point?
Well then, I agree. It doesn’t change the fact that it was St. Jerome’s opinion that they were not canonical. And that’s the only relavent point regarding St. Jerome, or Cardinal Cajetan, or any of the others, including some church Fathers, who did not consider the DC’s canonical. IT WAS THERE OPINION!! And opinions, prior to Trent, were allowed.
Luther had his opinion - it was allowed, since he died before Trent.
The opinion of the local synods of Hippo and Rome and Carthage was that the DC’s are canonical. Well and good.

I won’t speak for protestants, but as a Lutheran, I believe American Lutherans have lost the immensely important Christian heritage by settling for English language Bibles that exclude the Deuterocanon. That seems to be changing, as we see the LCMS’s publishing arm providing them again. My opinion is they should be included in the lectionary again.
And just like Jerome, and St. Cyril, and Origen and numerous others who are said to have reservations about the DC’s, I intend to have and hold my opinion regarding them in the tradition of a pre-Trent Catholic.

You are welcome to yours.

As for Luther’s “commission”, I am not aware of a dogmatic requirement to have one to translate scripture. Further, the only “revising” Luther did was to re-organize the DC’s into a section between the OT and NT in his 1534 translation. Again, I am not aware of a dogmatic declaration as to a Table of Contents.

Jon
 
Well you were talking about Sola Scriptura, which “Only Scripture,” but what’s “On-
ly Scripture” if you use only part? I admit, looking back now, that what I said might
have KINDA been out of the blue, so for that sorry.

Be that as it may, Wisdom is clearly God-Breathed,
was ac-cepted as God-Breathed, maybe not by ALL
Jews, but not ALL Jews agreed what was Scripture.

One of the reasons why Wisdom was excluded, again, from the Jewish Canon (AFTER)
the time of Jesus, was because Early Christians were using Wisdom as a proof text for
Jesus, and Protestants take Rabbi Akiva’s side on that?!

U**nder your paradigm which you just gave, we have no idea what is Scripture, **be-
cause the Holy Spirit clearly didn’t guide the Early Church in accepting Wisdom,
right? ANYONE can write write down truth, doesn’t mean it belongs in the Bible.
WHO NEEDS SONG OF SONGS? Or Ruth? How much Scripture is really lost
were we to drop Esther? Does God really care?

So the New Testament quotes Wisdom 51 times, doesn’t make it God’s Word, meant
for us as Scripture. SERIOUSLY, what is YOUR criteria for what is and what is not at
all Scripture? Not why Wisdom is “considered non-canonical,” but overall, what is the
Scriptures and how do we know what belongs in and out of the Canon?
Of course you have an idea what scripture is. You are Catholic in communion with the Bishop of Rome. As such, you are obligated to accept as canon the 73 books as described in the Council of Trent. So, the idea of what scripture is for a Catholic in communion with the Bishop of Rome is quite clear. What Luther or JonNC or Itwin or Jerome or Erasmus or Eusebius or Orthodoxy think or thought shouldn’t matter to you at all.

Jon
 
Overall, criteria would be apostolicity, spiritual content, doctrinal soundness, usage, and, most important, evidence of divine inspiration.
Some of the gnostic scriptures claim apostolicity.
How would you know which “spiritual content” is good? Sola Scriptura results in circular reasoning.
If Sola Scriptura is our only source of doctrine, how do we use “doctrinal soundness” to decide what is Scripture? You might say whatever is consistent with doctrine in other canonical books, but how do we know those books have sound doctrine?
“Usage” is no sure guide. The Book of Mormon, and the Koran, which is in part a gospel, have been used for a long time. People who used those books claim evidence in those books of divine inspiration in their worship and daily lives. Are they therefore Scripture?

Many ancient gospels and epistles were used by local churches, but did not make it into the Magisterium’s canon. They may well have been used more than the 27 books that did make it. People then, and some now, found them to be apostolic, good spiritual content, sound doctrine, and divinely inspired. Who are we to say they were wrong, and Rome’s canon was right?

Who decides if a given book still passes the test on criterion 2, 3, or 5? If a majority of Christians today think Philemon, or certain epistles about marriage or homosexuality, no longer meet most of the criteria you mentioned, would they cease to be Scripture for our generation? It seems hard to believe that our custom of considering certain books as Scripture would overrule Christians today applying those criteria you mentioned to add or subtract from the canon. If you don’t believe in a Magisterium, that puts a lot of authority on custom.
 
The following link includes a series of short videos which provide a Lutheran perspective of the Deuterocanon/Apocrypha. Hopefully, it will dispel some of the misconceptions about the Lutheran view of them.

pitchengine.com/concordiapublishinghouse/the-apocryphaa-lost-treasure-recovered#

Jon
Here’s a direct link to several of the Concordia videos including that selections of the Apocryha are read during Mass:

youtube.com/watch?v=Hrpue9gVT1A&list=PLxogXfoRgsrgVYEaKE-s63gTvepZ4sEX2

youtube.com/watch?v=88X8OoV0118&list=PLxogXfoRgsrgVYEaKE-s63gTvepZ4sEX2
 
Of course you have an idea what scripture is. You are Catholic in communion with the Bishop of Rome. As such, you are obligated to accept as canon the 73 books as described in the Council of Trent…
… and of Hippo, and Carthage (Third & Fourth), and Basel, and Florence.
So, the idea of what scripture is for a Catholic in communion with the Bishop of Rome is quite clear. What Luther or JonNC or Itwin or Jerome or Erasmus or Eusebius or Orthodoxy think or thought shouldn’t matter to you at all.
I totally regard what Jerome’s position was, for he did not reject the Deuterocanon as Scripture for life. Why do you always appeal to him?

Erasmus and Eusebius are not the final authority of what Scripture is. You think so?

And since when did you, Luther, and Itwin have authority invested to determine what Scripture is?
 
There are a couple of things about the canon that I think is worth mentioning, and that is 1) Proto canonical means first canon and 2) Deutrocanonical means secondary canon, in other words a canon within a canon. The reason why the books that are deutrocanonical and not accepted is that Jewish religious leaders of the day did not accept these books is that they were written after 400BC and was written in both Greek and Aramaic. Tobit for example teaches the practice of virtue and teaching and thanksgiving. Judith teaches preparation for blessing and the celebration of blessing, Esther teaches about great danger and great delivence, Wisdom teaches us morals, Sirach is about instruction and exhortation and Baruch teaches us about prayer and Jeremiah tells us about the helpessness of idols and the foolishness of worshiping idols. There is more but these books are inspired in that they teach us in the ways that God wants us to live and go very nicely in my opinion with the protocanonical books They fill in gaps so to speak in understanding God is conveying in Scripture. It seems to me that the Jewish religious leaders rejected these books was not due to there not being inspired in some way but due to when they were written and the language they were written in, they looked at Hebrew as a sacred language and so thought that only those books written before 400BC and written only in Hebrew were to be accepted. At least that is my understanding of it.
 
… and of Hippo, and Carthage (Third & Fourth), and Basel, and Florence.

I totally regard what Jerome’s position was, for he did not reject the Deuterocanon as Scripture for life. Why do you always appeal to him?

Erasmus and Eusebius are not the final authority of what Scripture is. You think so?
I do not appeal to Jerome. I mention him.
For you, we don’t have any authority. For me, I don’t have any authority. I do and can have opinions. You seem to think an opinion = authority. My communion handles the canon in the way it does, reflecting on the history of the canon and the Church, the views of the Fathers and others. I have no authority to alter or change that. But I can have an opinion. Like Luther before Trent, I am permitted an opinion.
And since when did you, Luther, and Itwin have authority invested to determine what Scripture is?
Why are so worried about it? As I’ve said, I have no authority. I never claimed any for Luther. Again, opinion is not authority.

Jon
 
**There are a couple of things about the canon that I think is worth mentioning, and that is 1) Proto canonical means first canon and 2) Deutrocanonical means secondary canon, in other words a canon within a canon. ** The reason why the books that are deutrocanonical and not accepted is that Jewish religious leaders of the day did not accept these books is that they were written after 400BC and was written in both Greek and Aramaic. Tobit for example teaches the practice of virtue and teaching and thanksgiving. Judith teaches preparation for blessing and the celebration of blessing, Esther teaches about great danger and great delivence, Wisdom teaches us morals, Sirach is about instruction and exhortation and Baruch teaches us about prayer and Jeremiah tells us about the helpessness of idols and the foolishness of worshiping idols. There is more but these books are inspired in that they teach us in the ways that God wants us to live and go very nicely in my opinion with the protocanonical books They fill in gaps so to speak in understanding God is conveying in Scripture. It seems to me that the Jewish religious leaders rejected these books was not due to there not being inspired in some way but due to when they were written and the language they were written in, they looked at Hebrew as a sacred language and so thought that only those books written before 400BC and written only in Hebrew were to be accepted. At least that is my understanding of it.
Excellent point - canon within a canon. Jaroslav Pelikan:
“[Luther] did not pretend that the church could undertake the construction of the canon anew, or that it could function with a canon open at both ends. Never, even at the height of his criticism of James, did he drop it from his editions of the Bible, any more than he dropped the Old Testament Apocrypha. From his own experience he could testify that often a Christian found one or another book of the canon difficult or useless to him at a particular time, only to discover later on that it was just what he needed in a time of trouble or temptation. Had such a person been permitted to re-edit the canon on the basis of his passing mood, he would have been deprived of the patience and comfort of the Scriptures when he needed them most. Within the received canon Luther made sharp distinctions, to the point of constructing a private miniature canon.** But he was realistic enough in his theology to know that one had to operate with the canon as given by tradition**. That realism provided the framework within which he could say and do the things he did in relation to the canon without involving himself in a hopeless set of contradictions.
Instead of the caricature one sometimes sees about Luther and the canon…
Herein lies the reason why Luther DID include the DC’s. He recognized them as part of the canon of the western tradition.

Jon
 
I do not appeal to Jerome. I mention him.
If Saint Jerome serves no purpose in defending
the Protestant Canon, there is no reason why
he should be brought up.
For you, we don’t have any authority. For me, I don’t have any authority. I do and can have opinions. You seem to think an opinion = authority. My communion handles the canon in the way it does, reflecting on the history of the canon and the Church, the views of the Fathers and others. I have no authority to alter or change that. But I can have an opinion. Like Luther before Trent, I am permitted an opinion.
The Word of God is not optional. Tell me when (Before Luther) the Deuterocanon was officially
and permanently removed from the Bible Once and For All. Many did have their own opinions,
yes, but that does not mean they were correct. Every council discussing the Canon always &
always ended the same and exact way; Deuterocanon Stays. What other communions say or
what individuals say does not matter at all.
Why are so worried about it? As I’ve said, I have no authority. I never claimed any for Luther. Again, opinion is not authority.
I don’t want you to be a Cafeterian with the Bible, holding your opinions
and endorsing the idea of “To Each His Own Opinion” with the Bible.
 
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