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lak611
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Boppysbud is from Texas, so maybe it’s a little self-deprecating humour.
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GKC
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You’re very welcome.That song is going to be in my head for the rest of the evening, I think.
Come fill up my cup. Come fill up my can. Come saddle my horses and call up my men.
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rr1213
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I’m afraid that it was quite intentional on the part of boppsybud. He’s just making fun of people. Take a look at post #47 above, excerpts below:I’m sure it was just a typo, anyway - I was looking at it and thinking, Hey, he pronounces that exactly the same way as I do!
"It’s like this, I was brought up in the so called “church of Christ”…They don’t really celebrate the “Lards Supper” at every service… … One boy would say a prayer like “Thanks for this bread, that reminds us of the body of Christ, broken on the cruel cross of calvary, in Jaysus name, AY-Min”…
Then they would pass the matzo crackers to the standing people only, and would go back up to the Lard’s Supper table and a different boy would say another praryer like “Thanks for the fruit of the vine, an emblem of the blood of Christ shed on calvary’s cross, in Jaysus name, AAYY-min” then…they go through these “worship acts” like a checklist, Pray, check, read bible, check, Lard’s Supper… The “praycher” is just exactly that and nothing else, HE gives sermons, HE is not ordained and goes to no seminary, they don’t even have seminaries to go to if they wanted to. The “praycher” is not allowed to say the prayers for the Lards Supper…"
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sandmountainsli
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Ole Boppy seems to specialize in making fun of people, churches in particular.
That doesn’t SEEM to be something Jesus would do, seems more like someone else, what is his name??
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O.S.Luke
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I think I take great offense at this. It is not “just a fellowship dinner.” Regardless of what you might think about its validity.
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lak611
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I missed those other posts from Boppy. Evidently I was wrong about his intent.
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boppysbud
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It seems very odd for southern people to complain about other being bigots, when it is the southerns who are themselves infamous for being bigots themselves.
After all it was the southerners themselves who became the solid REPUBLICAN South or at least the white ones, when the Republicans turned out to oppose the civil rights acts. It was southern republicans who aired tv commercials in I beleive Tennesee or Kentucky that had a blond bombshell making suggestive talk to the Democratic candidate Mr Ford, “give me a call Mr Ford” nudge nudge wink wink.
You can tell which people live in which neighborhoods by the way they vote. White people vote Republican like %95 or the time, and black people vote Democratic about %95 of the time.
So save your false accusations of bigotry, for other people who aren’t bigoted themselves.
After all it was the southerners themselves who became the solid REPUBLICAN South or at least the white ones, when the Republicans turned out to oppose the civil rights acts. It was southern republicans who aired tv commercials in I beleive Tennesee or Kentucky that had a blond bombshell making suggestive talk to the Democratic candidate Mr Ford, “give me a call Mr Ford” nudge nudge wink wink.
You can tell which people live in which neighborhoods by the way they vote. White people vote Republican like %95 or the time, and black people vote Democratic about %95 of the time.
So save your false accusations of bigotry, for other people who aren’t bigoted themselves.
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sandmountainsli
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Boppy is showing his true colours as this drags on.
Just someone who lives in Texas who has a deep hatred for the South, feels the need to make fun of us to “prove” that he is enlightened and not one of thos “hayseed bigots” who cannot speak correctly
In other words, just a big mouthed Liberal who cannot see his own hatred when it is so obvious to anyone else.WP
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rr1213
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Yes, the South has had infamous problems with race that are known to all. You know other parts of the country who have had the same problem? Try Chicago, or Boston, or Newark or LA. Some of the worst racial segregation in housing and schools, racial prejudice, and riots due to racial problems in the history of this country. Its not a SOUTHERN problem per se but a HUMAN problem. What this has to do with the Protestant Eucharist I don’t know…which is probably a sign that this thread has gone on long enough.
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JoeyWarren
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Ya gotit rong, southerners call it “LAWD” as in “Praise tha Lawd”
P.S. Born and raised in Alabama. Graduated from Prattville High School(hopefully the next 6A football champs => knocking on wood).
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VociMike
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My question (and it is sincere) is, why would Jesus command you to eat a wafer and drink a sip of juice in rememberance of Him? How can that be a worthy rememberance? Such a “meal” would not be a worthy rememberance of any human being, much less Jesus Christ, Savior and Redeemer of the World.
Which points to the strong possibility that Protestantism has made a great mistake in understanding exactly what food and drink Christ commanded were to be at this meal of rememberance. Depending on one’s understanding of what the food and drink present actually consist of, one ends up with either the lowliest possible food (the Protestant understanding), or the highest possible food (the Catholic and Orthodox understanding). Compare the lowly elements of bread and juice with the decorations on the Ark of the Covenant to see how God wanted Himself remembered in the OT. How would you respond to that vast gulf?
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rr1213
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…or you have intermediate understandings as expressed by the Lutherans and some Anglicans, i.e., the Real Presence but not transubstantion. There is also the Calvinist understanding of a spiritual presence. So, there are some “touchstones” between the extremes of the “gulf” that you mentioned.
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Kendy
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I wondered that as well. That’s why I reverted to the catholic church.
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jmcrae
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Can you say “sweeping generalization,” boys and girls?
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RCCDefender
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Yes I can, and now he is not just saying Southerners are bigots, but Republicans and white people as well.Can you say “sweeping generalization,” boys and girls?
And I doubt he actually even saw any of the commercial that he’s speaking of or he would know that it was paid for by the NATIONAL Republican Campaign Committee, not SOUTHERN Republicans and it was pointing out the FACT that Congressman Ford was attending parties with Playboy Playmates and accepting campaign contributions from porn companies.. And that is a fact. ANd now Tennessee is portrayed as being bigoted by the national media because they didn’t vote in a black man? Give me a break! It took me several times of wathing different commercials of Congressman Ford to even realize he was black in the first place. Puleaze!
Sorry to get off topic…
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jmcrae
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No problem - I think I started it.
So, what you’re saying is that they judged him on the content of his character, rather than the colour of his skin? And that now the liberals are screaming “discrimination” because of that?
I think Martin Luther King Junior would just be so proud.
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FromTheCrossroa
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Christ turned water into wine. Why couldn’t believers “who would do greater things than I” take what they have (albeit strange and unconventional) and use it for His glory? Would you expect to see starburst in your local parish? I would hope not. I would not be so quick to dismiss and judge them (in a hypothetical situation). If it is all there is and the hearts are in the right place, thats all that matters to me because Christ himself also granted mercy to those who were ill equipped but had a good heart.
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Steadfast
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I think that when churches substitute crackers and juice (or what have you) for bread and wine they are making the point that Christ instituted the sacrament (or ordinance) using common foods and that the point is something more than the observance of form.
Crackers are, basically, bread and bread remains a staple, so why not use ready-to-use individually sized pieces of “bread”? What makes unleavened bread or non-mass produced/processed bread “holier” than any other kind? What kind of bread did Jesus use? Was it matzoh? Maybe, maybe not. Is it important?
Wine is no longer the staple it was in the first century so why not use something that is? Pop, or juice or even beer?
The overriding idea is that what our Lord was instituting was a family meal to which He was (somehow) tying Himself and His work in saving sinners and that whatever your view of the sacrament (or ordinance), this remains far more important than the specific elements. And anyway, any elements which adequately represent the ones He used for our day and age just as adequately illustrate His point in instituting the sacrament (or ordinance) in the first place since little circles of pressed “bread” and watered down Manischewitz® are not something usually present in the average American dinner.
N.B.: The views of this post are not necessarily those of the poster. They represent an attempt on his part to relate what he believes to be the perspective of someone he disagrees with.
Crackers are, basically, bread and bread remains a staple, so why not use ready-to-use individually sized pieces of “bread”? What makes unleavened bread or non-mass produced/processed bread “holier” than any other kind? What kind of bread did Jesus use? Was it matzoh? Maybe, maybe not. Is it important?
Wine is no longer the staple it was in the first century so why not use something that is? Pop, or juice or even beer?
The overriding idea is that what our Lord was instituting was a family meal to which He was (somehow) tying Himself and His work in saving sinners and that whatever your view of the sacrament (or ordinance), this remains far more important than the specific elements. And anyway, any elements which adequately represent the ones He used for our day and age just as adequately illustrate His point in instituting the sacrament (or ordinance) in the first place since little circles of pressed “bread” and watered down Manischewitz® are not something usually present in the average American dinner.
N.B.: The views of this post are not necessarily those of the poster. They represent an attempt on his part to relate what he believes to be the perspective of someone he disagrees with.
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VociMike
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I think I would not be so quick to accusations of dismissing and judging. I have pointed out that depending on one’s understanding of the elements involved, the food and drink involved in the Eucharist / Lord’s Supper are either elements that would be unworthy of any human being, or they are elements that are truly worthy of God Himself, being God Himself. This is a vast gulf, and I invite Protestants to consider which one God might consider more fitting.
As for Jesus turning water into wine (very fine wine, BTW), I consider this evidence against the “symbolic only” view, for Christ offered the finest of natural wine to the wedding party. Even the wedding party got better than the crackers and juice at a Protestant Lord’s Supper. How much more should be involved in the Eucharist / Lord’s Supper?
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