Protestant converts: How did you deal with the Church's Marian doctrines?

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As I said Jesus is God so therefore Mary is the Mother of God.
 
setarcos said:
I might think you mean that you would sell your soul to the devil if your girlfriend asked you to
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Saying you are my life to your girlfriend is not selling you soul to the devil or necessarily lead to that. Have you ever had a girlfriend or boyfriend? I don’t know if you’re a man or woman.
 
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By saying “you are my life” are you saying you would do anything for that person regardless of how it might be against your own convictions?
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There may be people who might mean that, but I would think that odd and rare. I certainly wouldn’t mean that and don’t know anyone who would.
 
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If you give your one life to your wife, if your not exaggerating what’s left to give to your children?
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Going from saying you are my life to giving your life exclusively in the way you mean is a big jump. It does not follow.
 
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In order to claim you cant love too much you will have to define how one can love someone too much first for me. Can you do that?
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You can’t love someone too much, if we are loving them as Jesus commanded, love one another. Otherwise it would be like saying you can follow Jesus’s commands too much.
 
setarcos said:
its my understanding the son was carried in her womb not the Holy spirit or the father, or are you saying that they are the same so there is no distinguishing them in the womb?
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If you believe in the Trinity, Jesus, the Holy Spirit and the Father are one God, three persons. Wherever Jesus is, there too is the other two persons. So yes, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit were present in Mary’s womb.
 
The thing about words once spoken is that they are not for the speaker to interpret. They are for those who hear them to interpret. I’m saying that you should be careful of the words you speak. It is presumptuous of you that all who hear you speak know exactly what you mean when the meaning of what you speak is beneath the literal and their interpretation depends upon understood colloquialisms, culture, and the experiences of the hearer. Words are powerful things. When you use such a powerful phrase you should be as literal as possible, mean what you say and say what you mean. If you give your life to your wife you do insult to your creator. Better to Love your Wife as commanded and give your life to God in this way. Scripture tells us we shall be judged by our every idle word…e.g. Mathew 12:36. Especially if those idle words cause others to stumble.
 
As I’ve said before. We live in a fallen world. Just watch or read the news. People do crazy stupid stuff every day because they’ve mistakenly dedicated their lives to others instead of God. They mistakenly believe that the apex of showing their love to them is in doing ANYTHING for them instead of trying to lead them to God by denying them something’s. People have robbed, murdered, assaulted, tortured, and hated to name a few things, all for the love of another. It is not as rare as you believe and if scripture is true to its word it become a lot less rarer before the end of this wicked world.
 
Read Mathew 25:40 as an example of what I meant. How you treat others IS how your treating God. This is not limited to physically. As I’ve said words are powerful things. When you speak them you are not simply addressing the person your speaking with, you are addressing God with your intentions and behavior. When we love our neighbor we are loving God, when we curse our neighbor we are cursing God.
 
Its is? Doesn’t it? You have one life. You said you gave it to your wife. I know you only by your words. This may mean your children are neglected. I’ve experienced this in others where the children were neglected because of a perverted sense of the parents focusing only on each others needs.
 
You’ve merely restated your convictions. I still don’t know what you mean by loving someone too much. How might one do that? The same follows for Jesus’s commands. How do we know we cant follow Jesus’s commands too much if you don’t define what too much would be?
 
If Jesus came to your house with His mother, would it be polite to ignore her?

As St Josemaria said “Christ is [always] passing by”…Mary must be nearby then.

Is Jesus so insecure that He has issues if you ask His mother to do something for you?

Maybe if we talked with God more…we wouldn’t have any concern about whether we also occasionally ask His mother for help.

We should REALLY treat Mary as our mother, handing her offerings during the day…this smile, that piece of work well done, this act of charity…giving her a “bouquet” of small sacrifices is a marvelous way to refine the tone of your spirit. And if you are near Mary…you can’t be far from Jesus…and vice versa.
 
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This is meaningless. Where is God not? Why couldn’t I say God is in every womb? Can you point to a woman and say God is not in you? According to scripture you cannot. Read Ephesians 4:6. So what is the significance? The point of the scripture was to emphasize the manifestation of the Son of God as a man who would dwell with us on earth. Mary birthed Christ’s humanity not his divinity. imo
 
If anyone came to my house with their mother I wouldn’t ignore her. I have no issues with that. What is your point? I wouldn’t say Jesus is insecure but he certainly demands our total devotion and love. Our God is a jealous God etc. etc… Would you say that anyone who gets jealous is simply insecure? I don’t believe in this intercession business. Why would I ask someone who isn’t God for intercession or favor when I can go directly to God with my prayers as he asks of us? I can’t judge these things if it makes you feel better, except if I feel they cross the lines of proper piety etc. but I simply see them as distracting and unnecessary to my salvation.
God bless you all…
 
setarcos said:
The thing about words once spoken is that they are not for the speaker to interpret.
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I think you are getting off topic. We are talking about saying “my life” to Mary in a prayer.

Millions of Catholics say that prayer.
None of them worship Mary as God.
None of them have done anything extreme or wrong because of saying “my life”
No one has been scandalized by hearing them say “my life”
No one is loving anyone less, or loving God less because they love Mary.
Many Saints have attested to the fact that they indeed loved God more when they loved Mary. How do you explain this empirical fact, among so many Saints spread over time and space?
 
setarcos said:
Its is? Doesn’t it? You have one life. You said you gave it to your wife. I know you only by your words. This may mean your children are neglected. I’ve experienced this in others where the children were neglected because of a perverted sense of the parents focusing only on each others needs.
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By loving God does it diminish the love you have for others? Does loving your wife diminish your love for your children? No it does not, I don’t know where you get the idea that it could. Anything else is not love.
 
setarcos said:
I still don’t know what you mean by loving someone too much. How might one do that? The same follows for Jesus’s commands. How do we know we cant follow Jesus’s commands too much if you don’t define what too much would be?
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You can’t, that’s the point. Don’t you get that meaning?
 
setarcos said:
Why couldn’t I say God is in every womb? Can you point to a woman and say God is not in you?
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Is every child Jesus? No.

Jesus in his body and blood existing in Mary’s womb is different than a human person existing with God’s presence.

In the case of Jesus and Mary, there is technically 3 persons there in the womb. In the case of a human baby, there is only one person there.
 
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