Protestant Dating Catholic

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When I was young, I was planning to marry my sweetheart who was non-Catholic, but my dad took me aside at one point and advised me to “look around” for a good Catholic partner. He was trying to not be pushy and antagonize me, but I could sense the heartfelt urging in his request. I eventually followed his advice and when I was older, I could look around and see many instances where a coupling of non-Catholic and Catholic either led to the Catholic drifting away from their faith, or at least having a harder time practicing their faith and raising the children to be faithful Catholics (“why do I have to go to church? Dad doesn’t”).

Of my brother’s four children, the three that married non-Catholics have all drifted away from their faith and the one who married a Catholic is a faithful mass-goer and sends his children to the Catholic school.

Having a committed Catholic spouse is a real spiritual and emotional support for a Catholic.
For the most part, this has been the case with my family as well. Sharing the Catholic faith is unlike sharing anything in a relationship or marriage. I would prefer someone who wants to attend Mass to give praise and glory to almighty God as well as give thanks to Holy Mother Church he left to keep and protect us, not because a compromise makes me happy.

I have many evangelical, atheist and agnostic friends. Many of them I truly respect and care for. They’re fine good hearted people. The truth is, many of these people are very much negative and look at the Catholic Church and faith with disdain. Even just belief in God for that matter. I don’t take it personally because I know much of it is ignorance. At the same time, this is why being in a relationship with a non practising Catholic would be problematic for me. It’s not even about protestants. Even if it’s a Catholic who is not devoted to the faith, and just Catholic in name, I’ve come to the realization that for me personally, it would not work.
 
I am protestant, and my wife is Catholic. Some of the more dysfunctional marriages I have seen have been between two Catholics.

My wife and I love and respect each other, and have had some differences, but we love the same God and do our best to follow Jesus. And partially because of my passion for the Bible, our kids tend to be ahead of the “all Catholic” kids in CCD.

It’s not all bad, and learning to love someone who thinks a little different can bring growth to both of you.

I see both sides - I sometimes clarify that what a protestant “thinks” is wrong with Catholics actually is just misunderstanding. And I attend a men’s book study at our local Catholic parish - I am the only non-C in the class. I feel there is much Catholics can learn from some protestants too. When I mentioned to them using the large Friday Fish Fry’s during lent to share a faith message no one was excited about it. And I wasn’t talking about speaking, just doing place mats with a message on it or something.

There is so much more common ground compared to differences, if you love. And I am still working on this too.
 
Well, what a perfectly dreadful welcome you’ve received thus far. One is explaining to you about marriage when you have not decided to ask this young woman on a date yet and the other person wants you to convert.

As a priest, I would like to just say welcome first of all. We are glad you’ve stopped by.

When it comes to dating, there are Catholics who do not feel comfortable dating someone who is not Catholic. Others are of a very different mind, however, and enjoy socializing with a variety of different people. It really depends upon the person.

There are a great many Catholics who dated (and are very happily married to) non-Catholics and they have various ways of making a marriage relationship work where the husband and wife have different faiths. I have worked with these couples over the years.

I have seen happy marriages with two Catholic spouses and very unhappy marriages with two Catholic spouses. The same is true with one Catholic and one non Catholic – and I have even had requests for prayers as a Catholic priest by two unhappy non-Catholics!

But here we are back to talking about marriage when the issue is asking someone to go out with you.

I would suggest you ask the young lady if she might like to keep company with you. Since we don’t know her, we can’t really speculate what she might answer. But she very well could say yes. “Nothing ventured, nothing gained.” You certainly will not offend her by asking her out, simply because you are non-Catholic.
From a Catholic who was been happily married to a non-Catholic for 18 years, thank you for this.

There are definitely challenges, but I haven’t ever seen a marriage without them. Would I love for him to one day enter the Church? Yes, and I pray for it, but he is a wonderful Christian man that lives by his faith every day, a great husband and wonderful father.

Oh… And one of the best things ever was to hear my non-Catholic husband defend the Catholic faith by explaining to our children, who had earlier heard someone make a comment about Catholics and worshipping statues, that that is not true. He told them how that is a misunderstanding of the Catholic faith; one that he had had at one time.
 
Obviously, I’m not dating.
Father, that is the difference. The purpose of *dating *is to discern marriage, not to have a beer with a good mate and watch the ball game.

What happens OFTEN in dating is that the Catholic and non-Catholic enter into with a “we’ll figure out the religion thing later” and then once their hearts are engaged, they’ve developed a deep romantic attachment and can’t bear to part-- THEN religion and raising of children rears its ugly head because they are starting to discuss marriage.

It is then that the Catholic is vulnerable to compromising their faith and the non-Catholic is vulnerable in the same way. Typically the “happy” mixed marriages are the marriages where one spouse doesn’t practice the faith of their youth and goes along with the other spouse in practicing theirs. This “works” until and unless the non-practicing spouse suddenly “gets religion” and starts being active in their own faith. Then it becomes perilous.

It is not merely “being friends with” someone when you set out to date them. It is much more than that. And, with the Catholic faith there are many obligations: Mass attendance, raising children Catholic. And there are many moral issues: contraception and other sexual mores as well as very REAL differences in Christian faith. The Eucharist is the Body of Christ or it’s not. Baptism is necessary for salvation, or it’s not. Infants can be baptized, or they can’t. And we haven’t even begun to get into the numerous real issues when you bring the in-laws into the picture, particularly if THEY are practicing in their own faith.

When a Catholic approaches you for marriage with her non-Catholic fiancé, it is a fait accompli. You are counseling that couple from a much different place than this person asking if they should begin a relationship with a Catholic.

What we *tend *to recommend here when Catholics come on board or non Catholics, asking about a relationship they haven’t yet started is not that a Catholic and non-Catholic never date (although some certainly do take that position) but **caution **that if you have not already started dating, it might be better to look for someone with whom you share the faith, the MOST important and most intimate part of who you are. It might be a good idea to think about what you want in a marriage, how you want to live out your faith life in your home, how you want to raise children, and then decide if dating a non-Catholic (or a non-practicing Catholic for that matter) fits your vision of your vocation. Go in with eyes open, and BEFORE you commit your heart and blur your vision, have serious discussions regarding the faith. Guard your heart. Know your obligations. And, before getting romantically involved with someone who does not share your beliefs, know what that really means as it plays out in a marriage.

Most non-Catholic Christians view their denominations somewhat interchangeably (except the hard core fringe variety). As a former protestant, I changed churches with different boyfriends, and most of the evangelical variety are pretty similar, even from my high church background, we intermixed quite regularly and didn’t see a difference. NOT SO with the Catholic faith. It is completely different to date a practicing Catholic as a non-Catholic and vice versa.

There are so many heartbreaking posts on this forum regarding Catholics and non-Catholics who didn’t heed this type of caution. One in fact who we flat out told not to marry their intended due to all the red flags has come back now many years later and is divorced and seeking annulment. Another who professed her happy mixed marriage (Lutheran/non-practicing Catholic) for about 3 years and argued vehemently against me every time I gave the above advice, has now come back and publically said “you were right” to me personally, because her formerly non-practicing Catholic husband awoke to his faith three years in to their marriage, and now she’s miserable.
She can make the decision of whether or not she wants to be friends and date him.
Dating is **not **the same thing as being friends. And, for those of us who have been through this and come out the other side, we are serious about the consequences of making poor choices in dating. Dating is not just something fun you do. It’s purpose is to discern a future marriage partner. And if this is not someone you would consider marrying, as is, don’t date them.
Funny how love ends up working.
Don’t bank on that, however, Father. It’s imprudent to say it will just all work out. There are too many broken lives on here trying to pick up the pieces because they didn’t discern seriously.
 
I am protestant, and my wife is Catholic. Some of the more dysfunctional marriages I have seen have been between two Catholics.

My wife and I love and respect each other, and have had some differences, but we love the same God and do our best to follow Jesus. And partially because of my passion for the Bible, our kids tend to be ahead of the “all Catholic” kids in CCD.

It’s not all bad, and learning to love someone who thinks a little different can bring growth to both of you.

I see both sides - I sometimes clarify that what a protestant “thinks” is wrong with Catholics actually is just misunderstanding. And I attend a men’s book study at our local Catholic parish - I am the only non-C in the class. I feel there is much Catholics can learn from some protestants too. When I mentioned to them using the large Friday Fish Fry’s during lent to share a faith message no one was excited about it. And I wasn’t talking about speaking, just doing place mats with a message on it or something.

There is so much more common ground compared to differences, if you love. And I am still working on this too.
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Father, that is the difference. The purpose of *dating *is to discern marriage, not to have a beer with a good mate and watch the ball game.

What happens OFTEN in dating is that the Catholic and non-Catholic enter into with a “we’ll figure out the religion thing later” and then once their hearts are engaged, they’ve developed a deep romantic attachment and can’t bear to part-- THEN religion and raising of children rears its ugly head because they are starting to discuss marriage.

It is then that the Catholic is vulnerable to compromising their faith and the non-Catholic is vulnerable in the same way. Typically the “happy” mixed marriages are the marriages where one spouse doesn’t practice the faith of their youth and goes along with the other spouse in practicing theirs. This “works” until and unless the non-practicing spouse suddenly “gets religion” and starts being active in their own faith. Then it becomes perilous.

It is not merely “being friends with” someone when you set out to date them. It is much more than that. And, with the Catholic faith there are many obligations: Mass attendance, raising children Catholic. And there are many moral issues: contraception and other sexual mores as well as very REAL differences in Christian faith. The Eucharist is the Body of Christ or it’s not. Baptism is necessary for salvation, or it’s not. Infants can be baptized, or they can’t. And we haven’t even begun to get into the numerous real issues when you bring the in-laws into the picture, particularly if THEY are practicing in their own faith.

When a Catholic approaches you for marriage with her non-Catholic fiancé, it is a fait accompli. You are counseling that couple from a much different place than this person asking if they should begin a relationship with a Catholic.

What we *tend *to recommend here when Catholics come on board or non Catholics, asking about a relationship they haven’t yet started is not that a Catholic and non-Catholic never date (although some certainly do take that position) but **caution **that if you have not already started dating, it might be better to look for someone with whom you share the faith, the MOST important and most intimate part of who you are. It might be a good idea to think about what you want in a marriage, how you want to live out your faith life in your home, how you want to raise children, and then decide if dating a non-Catholic (or a non-practicing Catholic for that matter) fits your vision of your vocation. Go in with eyes open, and BEFORE you commit your heart and blur your vision, have serious discussions regarding the faith. Guard your heart. Know your obligations. And, before getting romantically involved with someone who does not share your beliefs, know what that really means as it plays out in a marriage.

Most non-Catholic Christians view their denominations somewhat interchangeably (except the hard core fringe variety). As a former protestant, I changed churches with different boyfriends, and most of the evangelical variety are pretty similar, even from my high church background, we intermixed quite regularly and didn’t see a difference. NOT SO with the Catholic faith. It is completely different to date a practicing Catholic as a non-Catholic and vice versa.

There are so many heartbreaking posts on this forum regarding Catholics and non-Catholics who didn’t heed this type of caution. One in fact who we flat out told not to marry their intended due to all the red flags has come back now many years later and is divorced and seeking annulment. Another who professed her happy mixed marriage (Lutheran/non-practicing Catholic) for about 3 years and argued vehemently against me every time I gave the above advice, has now come back and publically said “you were right” to me personally, because her formerly non-practicing Catholic husband awoke to his faith three years in to their marriage, and now she’s miserable.

Dating is **not **the same thing as being friends. And, for those of us who have been through this and come out the other side, we are serious about the consequences of making poor choices in dating. Dating is not just something fun you do. It’s purpose is to discern a future marriage partner. And if this is not someone you would consider marrying, as is, don’t date them.

Don’t bank on that, however, Father. It’s imprudent to say it will just all work out. There are too many broken lives on here trying to pick up the pieces because they didn’t discern seriously.
Please do not talk to me as though I do not know or have not had the experience of doing marriage preparation across decades of priesthood…and, even more, marriage counseling. That is as condescending to me as it is condescending to the many successful and beautiful marriages where one spouse is Catholic and one is not. I find your post, frankly, appalling.

I find it particularly offensive when you neither know my family’s history or my own life history but presume nevertheless to write what you have written.

Frankly, having read your other posts, I am extremely disappointed in this response and it colours how I will read you in the future.

The way in which this young man was treated at the beginning of this post, from the perspective of being civil, was nothing short of disgraceful.

I could say much more in my response…but I think it better that I don’t.
 
From a Catholic who was been happily married to a non-Catholic for 18 years, thank you for this.

There are definitely challenges, but I haven’t ever seen a marriage without them. Would I love for him to one day enter the Church? Yes, and I pray for it, but he is a wonderful Christian man that lives by his faith every day, a great husband and wonderful father.

Oh… And one of the best things ever was to hear my non-Catholic husband defend the Catholic faith by explaining to our children, who had earlier heard someone make a comment about Catholics and worshipping statues, that that is not true. He told them how that is a misunderstanding of the Catholic faith; one that he had had at one time.
Thank you for posting this. Blessings upon you, your husband and your family.
 
Well, what a perfectly dreadful welcome you’ve received thus far. One is explaining to you about marriage when you have not decided to ask this young woman on a date yet and the other person wants you to convert.

As a priest, I would like to just say welcome first of all. We are glad you’ve stopped by.

When it comes to dating, there are Catholics who do not feel comfortable dating someone who is not Catholic. Others are of a very different mind, however, and enjoy socializing with a variety of different people. It really depends upon the person.

There are a great many Catholics who dated (and are very happily married to) non-Catholics and they have various ways of making a marriage relationship work where the husband and wife have different faiths. I have worked with these couples over the years.

I have seen happy marriages with two Catholic spouses and very unhappy marriages with two Catholic spouses. The same is true with one Catholic and one non Catholic – and I have even had requests for prayers as a Catholic priest by two unhappy non-Catholics!

But here we are back to talking about marriage when the issue is asking someone to go out with you.

I would suggest you ask the young lady if she might like to keep company with you. Since we don’t know her, we can’t really speculate what she might answer. But she very well could say yes. “Nothing ventured, nothing gained.” You certainly will not offend her by asking her out, simply because you are non-Catholic.
Thank you for your counsel, Father. That helps a lot.
 
Yikes! This is a crazy thread! You took the responses in this thread very well. Please don’t be put off by the craziness in here…

Ask her on a date for crying out loud. You are already a million times more conscientious than the average person is about dating and faith. Let us know if we can be of any more help.
 
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