Protestant Denominations

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I’m a seminarian, Cradle Catholic, grew up in the very Catholic Philippines.
The Protestants are a minority here, and I mean a minority.

I just want to know what are the main denominations of Protestantism and a quick description of their Theology, Practices and how Anti-Catholic they are.

When and if I become a priest (pray for my vocation), I would like to try and approach some of these with an idea in mind. If possible, I would do it when I go home for my Summer Vacation and when I serve my Diocese.

Thanks!

Dominus sit semper tecum!
The defining characteristics of Protestantism as a whole are the Five Solas, which were nicely detailed in another post.

The types of Protestants you’re least likely to talk to (because they don’t evangelize much) are the ones that are most similar to Catholics- the Lutherans, Anglicans, other mainline denominations. Mainline has a range of meanings, but the churches most quickly associated with the term are the ones that broke away directly from Rome, although the term can also be used in reference to every major grouping of trinitarian churches in the US regardless of history or characteristics. This, I think, is a mostly useless way of using the term. Mainline in the Catholic-similarity sense used to be what most of the United States was, but now those churches have declined quite a bit and Americans now mostly belong to Protestant churches that didn’t break directly from Rome. Although some people want to call them mainline just because they’re accepted as Christians by other Christians and now they account for most of the United States’ Christianity. Again though, I think that’s a silly way to use the term. When used this way, it only remains useful as long as there are no population shifts over time.

At any rate. The types of Protestants that are most likely to evangelize you are as follows. Mostly in the southern United States, you have your Baptists. They might not properly know what a sacrament is, but there are ordinances- just two of them, though. The concept of a hierarchical leadership that has teaching authority makes absolutely no sense to them. Baptism does not save you or regenerate you, you’re typically expected to be saved by means of an “altar call” (which typically does not include an actual altar) and that entails a sermon that’s given to a crowd of people, an invitation, and then you decide you’re going to pray and give your life to Jesus and ask Him into your heart. You go talk to someone, they talk you though a prayer and a decision, and then you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Then hopefully other people follow up with you and you start attending church regularly.

There’s a very, very similar type of Protestant Christian from the US that’s mostly from the northern part. These people will very often go by the term non-denominational or Evangelical, and this is my background, personally. These groups of Protestants have been accused of essentially being Baptist but with a different name on the door, which appears to be done in hopes of having a broader appeal to a wide variety of Christians who might not be inclined to show up to an actual Baptist church. And to that criticism, I will say…it’s pretty much correct. The one difference I’ll point out is that among these folks, there is more of a Reformed influence that places just a bit less emphasis on the decision making process of the person becoming a Christian and a bit more emphasis on the sovereign will of God and in His decision to save someone (and here, “save” means to regenerate, cause one to pass from death to life, become a Christian, and of course to be guaranteed eternal life from that moment on). There’s also a tiny bit more of a tendency for these types of people to set aside restorationist ideas (as if the Catholic Church got off the right path and now American Protestants are putting Christianity back on the right path where it originally was) and there’s a bit more of an awareness of Christian history going back more than 500 years. It’s also worth noting that Southern Baptist seminaries provide free education to qualifying people who want to become pastors, and Evangelical/non-denominational people, generally from a bit further north, frequently and very often do get their training that way, and then they start out at a Baptist church for a certain number of years as part of the deal. Because of this, there’s been a cross-pollination of ideas and it’s had some minor but noticeable effects in the way that Southern Baptist leadership has more recently been approaching its ideas about evangelism and salvation.

The other main type of Protestant is Pentecostal or charismatic, and there can be a lot of overlap between them and other more-formal groupings of Christians. Some Catholics are actually charismatic, as a matter of fact if you look at Hispanic Catholics living in the US, their charismatic parishes do the best in terms of growth and retention of their members while the non-charismatic ones are not doing nearly as well. Something to keep an eye on. Among Protestants though, some charismatic churches are non-denominational. Some belong to a denomination of some kind. The charismatic movement was born in the state where the presidential primaries just kicked off- Iowa. It’s spread all over though, and more than any other type of Protestant, the charismatic (or Pentecostal) ones are most likely to evangelize you. With these Protestants (or Catholics for that matter), there’s varying levels of greater emphasis on miracles, healing, signs and wonders, gifts of the Spirit. That sort of thing. There’s a big range of how much it’s talked about or emphasized, and it just depends on the person. Of the small number of Protestants in the Philippines, quite a lot of them are Pentecostal/charismatic, right? I’m guessing.

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Now, how anti Catholic are they? We used to be worse. And as of now, the worst things you’ll see are on the Internet. It’s been a little while, as far as I know, since a really well publicized Protestant figure has been openly anti Catholic, and that used to be pretty standard. Some of that has carried over, but not as much as you would think just based on how bad some Internet forums can be. I remember reading an account of a particular bit of informal research that I rather enjoyed reading, actually…the man who did this informal research is an older guy, super anti Catholic, and I think he’s some sort of seminary trained pastor who also writes some things online. He went to the campus of a well-known Evangelical liberal arts college to find out how the best and brightest of the new generation of Evangelical Protestants feels about Catholics. Keep in mind, he was hoping to hear a lot of criticism, he was hoping to hear some combative language, and he explicitly stated that he wanted to hear that because to him, it would have indicated that these young people have the right idea about Christianity and they are committed to correcting the errors of the Catholic Church.

He was extremely disappointed. He talked to over a dozen students as he spent time on campus, and only one of them said anything that was the least bit critical of Catholicism. Then as soon as he said it he walked it back and basically changed what he said. Most of them effectively said that Catholicism basically functions as if it were another branch of Protestantism. What if an Evangelical friend of yours converted to Catholicism?, they were asked. And everyone basically shrugged and said okay, that would be no different than if they told me I switched from a Baptist church to a Presbyterian one. And I’m sure a few of their beliefs had something to do with it as well, but the main thing is does this help bring them closer to God and have a more enriched spiritual life.

I can’t remember who this guy was, but he was incredibly disappointed with the outcome, and I was pretty happy. I will say this, though- the Protestants who are very critical of Catholicism think they know just about all there is to know about Catholicism, and they really, really do not. And the Protestants who aren’t at all critical of Catholicism also know very little about Catholicism, and for the most part they really, really do not care. Not in a malicious way, either- they treat the particulars of Catholicism as if they were the distinctions in nomenclature concerning the spin patterns of mostly-theoretical particles having to do with string theory. It’s important to some people, but I truly don’t care, is the attitude. It is a very tiny group of Protestants that are friendly toward Catholicism on account of how well informed they are, and despite being well informed they have also decided (respectfully) not to become Catholic themselves.

For the most part, if you spend any amount of time around Protestants, they will hardly know the first thing about your actual beliefs and practices but they will probably make an effort to show a basic appreciation for the most obvious surface-visible aspects of how your religion looks in daily life. I doubt you’ll see much anti Catholicism in actual life, but I know you can find a lot of it on the Internet.

I’ll add just one more thing. In the US, a little over 10% of Protestants used to be Catholic, generally this means they were raised Catholic, catechized to some extent, and then left the Catholic Church usually in the late teens early 20’s type of range. Some exceptions, but this is the trend. Some of these ex-Catholics have a lot of bad things to say about the church they left, but I get the impression that’s not close to all of them, it’s a smaller minority that can be vocal when they want to be. Most ex Catholics of this sort have family that continues to be Catholic so that’s a motivating factor that keeps them from being extremely critical. Also, these people mostly (quietly) drift away from their Catholic identity rather than having a loud, long disagreement and leaving in anger. It tends to be a quiet and fairly amicable break from their past. And for the most part, from what I can tell, they tend to keep the uniquely Catholic parts of their past pretty quiet. Someone in your position might be inclined to draw a bit more out of them than the average person, but for the most part this type of person tends to leave the past in the past.
 
(I’m not trying to make any particular point with that image, other than illustrating the complexity.)
I know that in the US, there are at least five different major denominations just within Lutheranism: ELCA, NALC, LCMC, LCMS, and WELS.

I also know there are several major groupings within Pentecostalism as well, broadly defined as “Holiness”, “Finished Work” and “Oneness” Pentecostals.

Likewise, there are multiple “flavors” of Anglicans/Episcopalians

So, as complex as that image is, it can get out of hand very quickly.
 
I know that in the US, there are at least five different major denominations just within Lutheranism: ELCA, NALC, LCMC, LCMS, and WELS.

I also know there are several major groupings within Pentecostalism as well, broadly defined as “Holiness”, “Finished Work” and “Oneness” Pentecostals.

Likewise, there are multiple “flavors” of Anglicans/Episcopalians

So, as complex as that image is, it can get out of hand very quickly.
I think there are several diffetent types of Baptists too.
 
I know that in the US, there are at least five different major denominations just within Lutheranism: ELCA, NALC, LCMC, LCMS, and WELS.

I also know there are several major groupings within Pentecostalism as well, broadly defined as “Holiness”, “Finished Work” and “Oneness” Pentecostals.

Likewise, there are multiple “flavors” of Anglicans/Episcopalians

So, as complex as that image is, it can get out of hand very quickly.
I think there are several diffetent types of Baptists too.
Indeed. Southern Baptist Convention, Baptist World Alliance (and their 218 member conventions), and countless smaller groups, independents, and many of what would otherwise be considered ‘non denominational’ churches. And that’s just in the US.

Plus if you want to consider them “Protestant” there’s a couple dozen Independent Catholic Churches as well.
 
Thanks for your critic.

I just needed some sort of heads up. I have been somewhat scarred by the aggressiveness of a local “Christian” denomination that claims that all Catholics will go to hell and that Christ isn’t God.
If they don’t consider Christ to be God, than they are neither Protestant nor Christian.
 
I think the amount of “anti-Catholicism” you will find is sometimes geographically dependent and denominationally dependent. You will have to ask specific people from a specific area. I grew up Episcopalian and virtually never remember negative comments about Catholicism. I am now Anglican in a group that is trending Reformed and hear different things, but still not so much negative about Catholicism, but differing views on the Sacraments.

I think you will have to engage the particular denominations in your area. As well, and this is very important, learn about their denomination from their standpoint, not form a Catholic standpoint. Being able to to converse with others about what their beliefs are from their perspective is invaluable.

Good luck on your journey.
This is true, but all of them are defined by which parts, and how much they depart from Catholic Teaching.
 
Thanks for your critic.

I just needed some sort of heads up. I have been somewhat scarred by the aggressiveness of a local “Christian” denomination that claims that all Catholics will go to hell and that Christ isn’t God.
Local protestant churches operate very much independently from each other, and then it’s also subject to which pastor is in charge right then. So you’re not going to get a global trend.

I understand being slandered by people of other churches- I’ve been there myself many times. But when Catholic beliefs are attacked, solution is not to ask Catholics what Baptists believe- that just continues the us vs them cycle. Rather, ask a Catholic what Catholics believe, to best shield against the un-educated barbs people from other churches. And ask people of other churches what they believe, so that you may love and understand them better.
 
I know the Aglipayans very well. In fact, half of my family (my paternal grandmother’s side) are what we call Katolikong-Aglipays. IFI’s who are very complacent to go to their own churches and attend and/or receive Catholic Sacraments.
👍

I really admire the Aglipayans for their work with the poor and marginalized.
 
I’m a seminarian, Cradle Catholic, grew up in the very Catholic Philippines.
The Protestants are a minority here, and I mean a minority.

I just want to know what are the main denominations of Protestantism and a quick description of their Theology, Practices and how Anti-Catholic they are.

When and if I become a priest (pray for my vocation), I would like to try and approach some of these with an idea in mind. If possible, I would do it when I go home for my Summer Vacation and when I serve my Diocese.

Thanks!

Dominus sit semper tecum!
In the US, the “biggie” mainline Christian denominations are Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian and Episcopal. I’ve heard that some Baptist sects have an anti-Catholic bent, but I’ve not experienced that personally in great numbers (and, hailing from the South, I am surrounded by Baptists).

Each of these denominations are unique, but share the similar core of a love for God and His Son and a calling to express that love in their lives.
 
jane_doe #28
And ask people of other churches what they believe, so that you may love and understand them better.
That is not enough, merely a first step.

Without the faith, knowledge and the will to “make disciples of all nations” as Christ commanded, no one will be converted.
 
Indeed,

http://christianityinview.com/images/protestant/denoms.png

(I’m not trying to make any particular point with that image, other than illustrating the complexity.)

KnightOfSPUD, I don’t know how much time you have for reading about the subject, but you might look at
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism#Major_branches
(although I wouldn’t expect there to be a section about how Anti-Catholic they each are).
While I do disagree with some of your diagram, (Anabaptist for instance was an umbrella of diverse points of view that could not agree on anything except the requirement of re-baptism, and that it fails to identify the influence of puritanism on almost everything that isn’t the Catholic Church), it does make the point that the further one goes from the Catholic Church, the more you are likely just to make stuff up as you feel.

Am I reading too much?
 
While I do disagree with some of your diagram, (Anabaptist for instance was an umbrella of diverse points of view that could not agree on anything except the requirement of re-baptism, and that it fails to identify the influence of puritanism on almost everything that isn’t the Catholic Church), it does make the point that the further one goes from the Catholic Church, the more you are likely just to make stuff up as you feel.

Am I reading too much?
Hi Darrly. You’re quite welcome to criticize the christianityinview diagram. Like I said earlier, the point of referring to it was to illustrate the complexity of answering the question, not to make any claim that that diagram is entirely accurate.

Having said that, could you post information about the influence of Puritanism on Orthodoxy?
 
In my experience, all protestants are “anti-Catholic” in the sense that they believe the Catholic Church is wrong in one way or another.

However, the level of “anti-Catholicism” then the questions becomes the following:
  1. Do they believe the Catholics are good Christians simply with a different theology?
  2. Do they believe the Catholics are good Christians simply with an incorrect theology?
  3. Do they believe that Catholics are good people being lead astray by misinformed priests & nuns?
  4. Do they believe that Catholics are people who commit idolatry and needs to be corrected?
  5. Do they believe that Catholics are bad Christians who are at risk of not being saved?
  6. Do they believe that Catholics are not Christians at all?
  7. Do they believe that the Church is evil and all Catholics are pagans?
I have experienced all of the above here in the United States. High Anglicans / Episcopalians will tend to be in the first level.

It really depends on what is the root of their main protest(s) against the Catholic Church.
I come from an Assemblies of God/non-denominational background (my family still is there) that hovers between 1 and 2, but occasionally may venture into 3-4.
 
Thanks for your critic.

I just needed some sort of heads up. I have been somewhat scarred by the aggressiveness of a local “Christian” denomination that claims that all Catholics will go to hell and that Christ isn’t God.
These people are uneducated and often filled with misinformation and hostility for years. They do hold to very key elements of the Catholic faith, such as respecting the Scriptures as the inspired and inerrant Word of God, the Trinity, the hypostatic union, and many other things. Focus on finding common ground where you can agree, such as Jesus is Lord! and we are saved by grace, through faith, and not of ourselves, etc. etc. The more you can find to agree, the more openings to discuss the areas you do not.

You might also want to read Catholicism and Fundamentalism to understand the differences and be prepared to discuss why you believe differently.
 
While I do disagree with some of your diagram, (Anabaptist for instance was an umbrella of diverse points of view that could not agree on anything except the requirement of re-baptism, and that it fails to identify the influence of puritanism on almost everything that isn’t the Catholic Church), it does make the point that the further one goes from the Catholic Church, the more you are likely just to make stuff up as you feel.

Am I reading too much?
No, this is spot on target. All Protestant denominations define themselves by which parts, and to what extent, they deny Catholicism. The further any denomination strays from the Apostolic faith infallibly preserved in the Catholic Church, the more diverse the heterodoxy.

We have even begun to see some denominations recombine with others, as their “doctrinal distinctives” are close enough to maintain an affiliation with each other over and against those who continue to diverge.
 
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