We can each apoligize for our own little role in the condition of our world - “what I have done and what I have failed to do”.
It just gets irritating when people judge what they (generally) do not know about and I was highlighting Terri as a reason NOT to judge the US even though many people will. It is difficult to keep an open mind about what happens elsewhere when the news and statistics present a bias but when (Catholic) people with first hand experience say that it is not the case I would tend to believe them over those with an agenda in the media.
In the immediate, there is only one political solution in Britain and Canada: The Labour Party (Britain) and the Liberal Party (Canada) have got to go. Based on the Canadian polls, presuming you all have an election some time in the next month or two (which is a possibility) there will be no trouble getting the Liberals out. As Ani knows better than I do, however, a Conservative government will not initially be a stable one. It will be a minority government, and present polls are so close that there is a serious possibility for a hung Parliament…I am less fully aware of the present electoral situation in Britain…When will there be a vote at this point? How do the polls look?Ok Teresas and David. Let us not linger in the problem but have faith that we can help each other with the solution. We have problems in Canada, the U.S., and Britain. As we have seen during the Fight for Terri, we can work on the same team. It is critical that we work on the same team.
There are enough differences in the culture and in government between the three countries to be exquisitely useful to us. It gives us flexibility and helps us to think outside the box.We share a common enemy: secular humanism aka the culture of death. My friend Pondero likes to point out the many old village churches in England which remind us of a once faithful people.
England has an election soon and so does Canada. You American posters can help us both by giving us support, prayer, advice, and by deluging the discussion boards and the media. We are God’s citizens first and citizens of king and country second. Let us be good soldiers in the battle to protect the sanctity of life.
Agreed?
**I kind of miss the old politics forum because it would have afforded me the opportunity to comment on this more in-depth…but I have always found the British and Canadian election systems to be fascinating and quite entertaining (in a very good way). **I’m 100% agreed Ani. It’s voting where we can make the single biggest difference the easiest. I am not allowed to vote in Sheffieldbecause of a mistake leaving us off the electoral roll until it was too late (mid Feb they closed the lists and wrote to us after the deadline to let us know
)but it looks like I will now be in Coventry (where I presume I still can vote) on election day. I will look into it this weekend but I think I must be on the electoral roll there still because that’s the last place I voted.
David Oatney said:
**I want you to know that I don’t say these things to pick on merry old England, and I’d be willing to bet that most others here aren’t either. Indeed, I recognize that in terms of evangelization, the Church in America has many of the same challenges that the Church in Britain has. I believe that in both cases, the Church needs to stand up for what is true. Rather than just talk about “tolerating” everyone else, we have to stand for the reality that Christ is truly “the way, the truth, and the life.” ****
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A Dhonnchadh, a chara,
No need for pessimism, my dear brother. Christ is preparing for Europe a power which will glorify His Name and that of His holy Mother and ensure that He remains as the God of Europe. Pope John Paul was aware of this in his own prophetic way and he used to speak of it … the impact which Orthodoxy will have in the rejuvenation of Christianity in Europe.
Hi dcmac -
The tactics of the British Army in Ulster were appallingly stupid and counterproductive unless one decides that keeping the War going at all costs is productive. In any case, let’s continue to move on. Let’s not look back in anger.
Yes lets move on, and I’m willing, but when others bring it up how can it die off ?
With the Sponsorship Scandal in Canada, people will have trouble trusting the Liberals again. About a decade ago, Canadians had trouble trusting the Conservatives and reduced them to 2 seats in parliament when Chretien was first elected! 2 seats from a previous majority government!
we help here? Can you keep us updated (per the “In the News” forum etc.) as to what’s happening in the coming elections?
I have no trouble at all giving attention to Ireland woes. The title of this thread is Protestant England is Dead. Ulster is part of Protestant England.
2 seats? - This is unlikely to happen to the Liberals in Canada. They are much more powerful than the Conservatives. Being a member of the Liberal party is comparable to being a member of the communist party in the former Soviet Union. They have been in power all but eight years since 1963. Its card-carrying members are very privileged, and there are enough of them to vote in governments, providing they split the opposition and ensure low voter turnout. They also have a massive advertising department called the CBC.
The liberal-conservative analogy is similar to that of the US. The Conservative leader, Stephen Harper, is the George Bush of the north. He is not Catholic but he is not afraid to publicly stand against gay marriage and for other traditional issues. He has been attacked relentlessly by pro-abortionists. On the other side there’s the current Prime Minister Paul Martin, the John Kerry of the North who will not stand by his Catholic beliefs.
The New Democrats are an ultra left-wing party. They make the Liberals look like the center party. The Liberal party plays this up and successfully makes the Conservatives look like dangerous extremists.
This would take from the conservative vote and allow the Liberal party to return to power, endorsing further corruption.