Protestant music during Mass

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What Did Women Sing? A Chronology concerning Female Choristers

by Laura Stanfield-Prichard.

You’ll find the same things in any standard history of the Liturgy and of Church music.
 
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Yes, I probably might, now that you have given me the article and author, so that I can review. Might I ask your objections to Dr. Kwazniewski’s credentials/article?
 
As one who was once British Anglican I find it dreadful when there’s a stunning Anglican hymn sung at Mass but ‘updated’ to remove any trace of Thee, Thou, and, Ye etc.
And I love a bit of Bach to end Mass!
 
It’s not in English but in 1986 there was an ecumenic hymn work of 325 core hymn, as a shared Christian core, with the various denominations adding their own specific hymns afterwards in their own hymnals. The local Catholic church has them in their Cecilia, so I presume they are used.

I couldn’t find a link in English, sorry.

Den svenska psalmboken 1986 – Wikipedia

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Might I ask your objections to Dr. Kwazniewski’s credentials/article?
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Which article would that be? My response was to the article you posted from New Liturgical Movement by Jeffrey Tucker, who has no clue about the history of the Church and just made it up. Like I said, pure fantasy and drivel.

If you want to learn more about this, don’t pay any attention to blogs. Stick with serious academic sources. Any dope can start a blog and write whatever BS they want, as was the case here.
 
I know that one! LOL that’s funny. I didn’t recognize the name but I really do know it. And you’re right, it’s a bear.

You’ll laugh when I tell you the first time I heard it: it’s in the movie Four Weddings and A Funeral. 😆😆 It was sung at some service I went to with my husband in England - and I actually knew the thing because of the movie.

It has more accidentals than an emergency room.
 
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Pup7 said:
It was sung at some service I went to with my husband in England
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It’s kinda the unofficial national anthem of England (not the UK, just England), and while it is now often a favorite among neofascist football hooligans, it was once a rallying song for suffragettes.
 
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I see the original discussion as a Trade Off. Catholics get to sing Protestant hymns. Protestants get to host BINGO nights at their church. 👍
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LOL, brilliant, I love it. Ever see that one group of photos with the catholic and evangelical bulletin boards going back and forth?
 
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stpurl said:
You object to The New Liturgical Movement?
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I have no idea what it is, but that particular article was worthless. Again, stick with serious scholarly published sources, and not random stuff you find on the internet.
 
Personally, any time that somebody addresses an article, even from a ‘blog’, with comments like ‘drivel’, BS, ‘not serious sources’, etc., my Spidey senses start to tingle. I know (at nearly 62 obviously I took my first BA 4 decades ago and the second already 12 years ago, so I’ve seen a lot of changes in academia) how discussion and dialogue are nowhere near the same in tone as they once were, but I still can’t help but cringe when I see anything that hints at appeals to emotionalism or ‘attack the person, not the argument’, etc. Way back when I was studying for the first BA in my classes in music history what I learned then dovetailed more with Mr. Tucker’s work than yours. Admittedly 4 decades is 4 decades, but I’m just not convinced that the music history scholars were so ignorant ‘then’ . However, it will be interesting to brush up a bit, and I’ll definitely check out your articles. I’m always open to new ideas!
 
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Personally, any time that somebody addresses an article, even from a ‘blog’, with comments like ‘drivel’, BS, ‘not serious sources’, etc., my Spidey senses start to tingle.
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It shouldn’t. My rule for anything that has not been published in a peer-reviewed academic source is “guilty until proven innocent”.

Also, you are remembering the Latin Mass as performed in the fifties in, probably, the US. Which was very, very different from the way the Mass was performed during the middle ages.
 
Irishmom2 said:
We sing this at our church too.

There are certain songs that are nice, but just don’t seem appropriate for a Catholic mass. Unfortunately, the organist/music director (who I am not sure was Catholic) chose many songs not in our hymnal. There is one song I really don’t like and my children were aware of it.

One Sunday when my daughter was an altar server, he started playing it during mass and she looked over at me to see my reaction. 😳

“Shall we gather by the river?”
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I love “Shall We Gather at the River,” and I’ll play it at home on my keyboard. 😁 😉
 
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