Protestant... Oh How I HATE That Term...

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believers said:
You just listed a gospel of religion. I personally don’t subscribe to religion…
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That is to say, you do not pray, believe in God, worship God in any way individually or publicly. . . . .

Those are all religious practices. Certain evangelicals have developed a twisted linguistic habit of redefining religion to include only those practices and motivations that they happen not to believe in. This does not make for clear or honest communication.

Edwin
 
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]I think most Catholics would have a problem lumping themselves with Christians who support abortion, gay marriage, etc.
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I as a NCC would have a hard time as well. I dont use the term christian loosely. There are many catholics and protestant who call themselves christian but are not really.
People like labels. For instance, by telling someone I’m Catholic, I can save them a ton of tip-toeing around.
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Yes us humans do like labels. I like saying Im a female:p I guess it makes us feel like we are part of some group. I have to say though when I tell people that I am a born again christian–their initial reaction is that Im a Jesus freak. What they dont realize is that is a compliment for me.👍 The only thing I want to be freaky about or identify myself with is being a follower of Jesus Christ.:cool:
Pope Benedict says the lack of Christian unity is shameful to all Christians.
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Absolutely
 
ALLFORHIM said:
I have to say though when I tell people that I am a born again christian–their initial reaction is that I’m a Jesus freak. What they don’t realize is that is a compliment for me. The only thing I want to be freaky about or identify myself with is being a follower of Jesus Christ.
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I am proud to be a “Jesus freak,” too. 👍
 
believers said:
You just listed a gospel of religion. I personally don’t subscribe to religion.

I don’t believe in any other gospel but the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The Gospel of Jesus Christ to the gentiles was committed to Paul not Peter.
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If you don’t subscribe to religion then you don’t subscribe to the Bible. Read James 1:27 and you’ll find out. You have I’m afraid subscribed to nominalism. 🙂
 
“whosoever” in John 3:16.
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(Matthew 7:19-23)
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Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.
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So by their fruits you will know them.
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**"Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, 10 but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. **
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Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?’
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Then I will declare to them solemnly, ‘I never knew you. 11 **Depart from me, you evildoers.’ **

(Let’s not interpret one passage of scripture, but neglect fifty others.)
You just listed a gospel of religion. I personally don’t subscribe to religion.
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The American Heritage Dictionary defines “religion” as:

1a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator or governor of the universe. (You don’t believe that?)
b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief. (You have a personal system, do you not?)
  1. A cause or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion. (This doesn’t fit the bill either?)
(Any “Jesus freak” must be “religious” in some capacity. How am I wrong based on these definitions?)
Also, where in the Bible does it say that God only demands a personal relationship with Him? Judas had a personal relationship with Jesus, but did not love Him. Where did that get him?

A personal relationship alone with Jesus will not get you into heaven. You must obey His commands.

“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments” (John 14:15)

“…and when He was made perfect, He became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey Him.” (Hebrews 5:9)

“See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.”
James 2:24)

(…and we could keep going until we are blue in the face.)

We must love Him and follow Him.
 
PaulDupre said:
You mean like the help that outlawed Catholicism in Britain, stole the Church’s lands and property, raped nuns and executed thousands of Catholic clergy and forced the rest to convert to Anglican Protestantism?

That kind of help we don’t need, thank you very much.

Paul
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And don’t for get what they did to the Irish.:eek:
 
Steadfast said:
I find it a bit odd that the same people who accuse Protestants of “the desire to differentiate” are the same ones who so jealously guard the use of the adjective “catholic” and will not, without a fight, permit its use by Protestants of any variety.These are the same ones who insist that Protestantism is a complete innovation with no grounding whatsoever in the historic church.

What is this if not an obstinate, nay, pharisaical desire to differentiate?
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It’s not odd, obstinate, or pharisaical at all. Protestantism is a rebellion against the Catholic Church, which is founded by Jesus Christ himself.
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Singinbeauty said:
I get lumped in with anyone and everyone who are not even christian by definition but because they aren’t catholic they are protestant…

Does this seem fair?
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Well, it makes sense 2 me that those who are not Catholic Christians are still protesting - albeit be default or wahtever - something about the Catholic faith - toherwise, they would be - or start to become - Catholic…

Thats just the way i see things… 🤷
 
I’m not fond of it either…my ancestors on my dad’s side came to America from Ireland in the early 19th century…Irish Quakers…my mom’s family fled the Hugoenot persecution in France and came to Virginia in the 16th century…where they spread out and joined other religious groups…then during the Civil War, a branch of my mom’s family, the Brainards joined the Society of Friends and operated part of the Underground Railroad…We’ve not considered ourselves “Protestant”…but an “alternate way” to follow Christ.
 
ALLFORHIM said:
Hey,

I have an idea–why dont we all just call ourselves Jesus Freaks :cool:

What do you think everyone??👍
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i hate the word FREAK, but i guess if you are goingto freak about something (someone) it should be Jesus… 🙂

I’ve gone to 12 step groups… People there are addicted to all kinds of things… but an “addiction” to Jesus is great, the only addiction i hang on to…

Nah… I wish that were the case… But at least i try… 😦 :o
 
Singinbeauty said:
I really like being non-denom because it is open to ALL christian faiths. It doesn’t close it’s door to ANYONE.
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I don’t know of ANY church that isn’t open to everyone. Maybe JW’s if you are misbehaving.
 
Singinbeauty said:
Christian would be just fine… but if there has to be a label put with it then Non-catholic is ok too… It is just that protestant has such a negative conotation now-a-days…
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I propose:

I’ll call you Christian instead of Protestant.
You call me Christian instead of Catholic-Christian.
Or you can call me Catholic.

Deal?
 
i don’t know, that word FREAK has some eerie connotations for me…
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Amen.

“Jesus freak” sounds like “religious nut.” When I think of Mother Theresa or any of the Saints, the work “freak” doesn’t come to mind.

We can be zealous for the Lord, and not be deemed the lunatic fringe of society. (Secular culture might be more inclined to seek our Lord and investigate Christianity if we leave “freak” out of the equation.)

If we must boil it down to a single word, “Christian” works for me. However, the reality is we can still hold to our labels and convictions, and charitably achieve unity. (Unity in name only is not true unity.)

More than anything, they will know us by our love; and I love all of you my brothers and sisters!
 
christcnection1 said:
Amen.

“Jesus freak” sounds like “religious nut.” When I think of Mother Theresa or any of the Saints, the work “freak” doesn’t come to mind.
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After I first moved away from home and was living with a room mate, the first Sunday I was there, I was getting ready to go to Church, and my room mate asked me where I was going. I said, “I’m going to Church - want to come?” She said, “What are you, some kind of a Jesus freak?”

If that’s all it takes then, yeah, I guess I am. 👍
We can be zealous for the Lord, and not be deemed the lunatic fringe of society. (Secular culture might be more inclined to seek our Lord and investigate Christianity if we leave “freak” out of the equation.)
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Unfortunately, the very act of going to Church is considered “freaky” whether or not you are “on fire,” etc.
 
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