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Wendell Phillips, William Lloyd Garrison, and Harriet Beecher Stowe for their fight against slavery. There are a lot of abolitionists who could fall here, but those are three that spring immediately to mind.
John Wesely was an instrument used for the conversion of hundreds of thousands.John Wesley
I would also say Charles Wesley, who wrote some of the most wonderful hymns, filled with solid theology, my favourite being ‘And Can it Be’:John Wesely was an instrument used for the conversion of hundreds of thousands.
He built hospitals and orphanages
He wrote numerous books and hymns.
On a side note he died with $34 to his name.
MLK is an interesting choice. However, I know there were questions/concerns put forward that he may have had affairs during his ministry. Such behavior would be one thing if it was before a conversion, such as in St Augustines case, but an entirely different matter in the case of a minister. To me this would not make his “life” one to be emulated as one of heroic virtue. Look at how horrifed everyone has been over the “priest scandal”. None of those guilty men, regardless of their writings or other accomplishments could be seriously considered for sainthood.Deitrich Bonhoeffer (German theologian killed for his involvement in an assination attempt on Hitler…wrote “Cost of Discipleship”
Mary Dyer (Quaker martyr, hanged on Boston Commons)
Martin Luther King Jr.
E. Stanley Jones (Methodist author)
Thomas R. Kelly (Quaker mystic, wrote “Testament of Devotion”)
Question, were any of the popes cannonized who had illicit relationships with women and produced children? Perhaps the standards of sainthood have changed over the years…I don’t know…MLK may very well have had affairs…it certainly has been claimed to be so…whether true…I don’t know…MLK is an interesting choice. However, I know there were questions/concerns put forward that he may have had affairs during his ministry. Such behavior would be one thing if it was before a conversion, such as in St Augustines case, but an entirely different matter in the case of a minister. To me this would not make his “life” one to be emulated as one of heroic virtue. Look at how horrifed everyone has been over the “priest scandal”. None of those guilty men, regardless of their writings or other accomplishments could be seriously considered for sainthood.
I do not say this to belittle MLK’s accomplishments, only questioning if his life is really one of “Heroic virtue” in living the Gospel.
If I am mistaken the above, someone please correct me.
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James
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Nor do I. I was just thinking of the description “Life of Heroic Virtue”. Also, as you state the requirements for declaring a saint have evolved over the centuries.Question, were any of the popes cannonized who had illicit relationships with women and produced children? Perhaps the standards of sainthood have changed over the years…I don’t know…MLK may very well have had affairs…it certainly has been claimed to be so…whether true…I don’t know…
Also True.It seems to me that some of the “saints” named saints may have not led extreme virtuous lives…but through martyrdom or extraordinary circumstances were “changed”…
You may be right. Perhaps I am out of line to, “impose” shall we say, a “catholic” perspective of what might be considered saintly. mea culpa.The thread IMO wasn’t designed to qualify Protestants for sainthood…but who Protestants would not mind entered into the list of “saints”…many of us have our own personal “saints” we seek to emulate in our own lives of faith…I’m sure even some Catholic “saints” if looked at too closely would fail stringent tests of propriety…honestly though…I’m not vested one way or another to qualify or quantify another’s spiritual life before God…I have enough on my plate with myself.![]()
John Calvin and Martin Luther as well are recognized as Saints in the Anglican church. Let’s not forget Cranmer, Lattimore and the third blind mouse Bloody Mary had burned to death as well.John Wesley
Ridley?John Calvin and Martin Luther as well are recognized as Saints in the Anglican church. Let’s not forget Cranmer, Lattimore and the third blind mouse Bloody Mary had burned to death as well.
I think you are right. Ridley I do believe was his name. Thank God for Queen Elizabeth after Bloody Mary’s murderous streak.Ridley?
And she had full support of the Catholic Church. Elizabeth was allegedly personally high church in terms of anglicanism, but her ability to compromise and stand up for everyone in the Church of England is truly admirable.I think you are right. Ridley I do believe was his name. Thank God for Queen Elizabeth after Bloody Mary’s murderous streak.
Yes it was. History looks upon her favorably as rightly it should.And she had full support of the Catholic Church. Elizabeth was allegedly personally high church in terms of anglicanism, but her ability to compromise and stand up for everyone in the Church of England is truly admirable.
So true. Tyndale burned for the ‘crime’ of translating the Bible in to english.Wycliffe…Wycliffe Bible…bones burnt posthumously
Hus…formed Hussites…burned at the stake
Tyndale…Tyndale bible…burned at the stake
Actually, they were apostate Catholics, so they don’t qualify.Wycliffe…Wycliffe Bible…bones burnt posthumously
Hus…formed Hussites…burned at the stake
Tyndale…Tyndale bible…burned at the stake
Sorry, not true. There were many English versions of the Bible for which no one was condemned or executed. He was executed by the state as a heretic, which was a federal crime at the time. And his translation was erroneous, besides. And since he was an apostate Catholic, he doesn’t qualify for the OP’s list, who asked us, in any case, not to mention the figures of the Reformation.So true. Tyndale burned for the ‘crime’ of translating the Bible in to english.