Protestant teaching of Mary

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This was already thoroughly debunked above. You guys need to switch up your playbook. Try the Option Left next time.
 
Sorry, I will delete (edit over) that last comment. Things are getting entirely too cynical in here, and that one isn’t helping.
 
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I don’t know you have been beating around the bush. At least Webo has done a good job at avoiding refutations to his arguments.
 
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jlhargus said:
Then you should be able to post from scripture showing God is a Trinity.
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  • There is one God, 1 Timothy 2:5, etc.
  • Who is 3 persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14.
  • These persons are distinct–the Son is not the Father nor the Holy Spirit, John 14:16-17.
  • Yet, each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God, 1 Peter 1:2, etc. The Son is God, Romans 9:5, etc. The Holy Spirit is God, Acts 5:3-4.
  • Christ is one with the Father, John 10:30.
  • Christ is the only begotten of the Father, John 1:14, etc. Begotten not made, for all things were made through him, John 1:1-5.
  • The Son, the Light of the World (John 8:12), is the brightness of the Father’s glory and of the same nature/essence/substance of the Father, Hebrews 1:3. “Light from Light”–“in your light do we see light”, Psalm 36:9.
  • The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and Son. He is both the Spirit of the Father (Matthew 10:20) and the Spirit of Christ (Romans 8:9). The Spirit is sent into the world by the Father (John 14:26) in Christ’s name, but also Christ receives the promised Holy Spirit from the Father and pours Him out on us (Acts 2:33).
 
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Webo said:
Luke 11:28 But He said, “On the contrary, blessed are
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Meh. Not convincing when you have to pick and choose your translation to fit your opinion. Even KJV says simply “He replied” not “On the contrary”
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“Nicholas Thomas Wright 2011,” indeed.
 
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To love Mary is to show love to Jesus.Their hearts are inextricably connected. It pleases Our Lord when we love and honor his mother ( our mother too) because he loved and honored her.
Again what a good and loving Saviour we have,that he would give us his mother from the cross.He knew the world needed a mother.🙏
 
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cbirtell said:
I personally am not going to venerate Mary more than My Savior Jesus.
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That’s good because Mary doesn’t want you to venerate her “more than Jesus” or even “separate from Jesus”.
When you venerate Mary, you are honoring Jesus through Mary. The entire reason we venerate Mary is to get close to Jesus.
 
po18guy said:
Apparently this passage from Holy Writ does not apply to them. (" the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures.")
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Well, there will be Baptists and Catholics in hell, just as there will be Baptists and Catholics in heaven. The twisting of scriptures may or may not be relevant to both groups and both ends, but so also it may be in not grasping or grasping what both groups share in universal understanding of scriptures.
 
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ZMystiCat said:
and the belief that God wouldn’t permit Himself to dwell in an imperfect vessel, a trait we see throughout the Old Testament.
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I like what some Catholics have posted, that that might be fitting, it is just that but not necessary. I would think OT also suggests that God’s presence makes something or someone holy, and not the other way around.

Somewhere Christ touched fallen flesh, and walked on fallen soil, after all, His destiny as a man was to take on, to become, the sin of the world.

Faith pleases God, and that response to the angel’s message from Mary made her immaculate enough for the Spirit to come upon her (not to mention all the other steps of faith Mary took as ordained and commanded by Jehovah thru His one true religion of the time, Judaism).

At best Christ’s tabernacle was His own flesh, and that was immaculate.
 
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Which is fine, provided people acknowledge that you don’t HAVE to go through Mary to pray directly to Christ. Mary isn’t Jesus’ secretary who screens his calls.

To use a very imperfect analogy, I can gain a lot insight into my dad’s nature by talking to my grandmother. She knows him very intimately; the mother-child bond is legit. But it’s also true I don’t need grandma’s permission to approach my dad.
 
or, a mother in law is unique for favor and insight into the groom, but the Groom is ultimate.
 
or the King who reigns in Heaven, with the Queen (Mother) by his side, continuing to urge us (as she did the servants at Cana) to “Do what he tells you.”
 
upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir. Psalm 45:9
 
yes, and He commands eternal life, to abide in Him, to buy gold from Him, to seek Him, to sup with Him, to ask in His name.
 
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yes, at least an allusion to the church being that future bride , of the King !
 
The mother is the queen in that culture, but I don’t see why it can’t be both.
 
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