Protestant version of the Lord's Prayer

[YinYangMom]

I am a protestant convert to the Catholic Church, and at the Catholic Church, we do say “for the kingdom and the power and the glory are yours forever.” We just say it after the priest says a prayer part on his own. Whether it is the original part of the prayer or not, it is still a beautiful truth to say. I don’t see a problem with it.

The problem isn’t that the words are used in prayer.
The problem is the Protestant Bible cites those words as having been said by Jesus Himself.

I would think it’s a big no-no to put words into God’s mouth.

 

[PeterC]

New American Bible
2002 11 11MT:6:9:13
9 "This is how you are to pray: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, 10 your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as in heaven. 11 Give us today our daily bread; 12 and forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors; 13 and do not subject us to the final test, but deliver us from the evil one.

 

[Ignatius]

Curious:

But it’s PRETTIER that way!! %between%

You don’t have any issue with changing Sacred scripture?

 

[Curious]

You don’t have any issue with changing Sacred scripture?

Oh silly boy…I was just being goofy. I am, of course, very USED to it, with the ending “for thine is the kindgom and the power and the glory forever…” LOL…the last mass I attended I very nearly blurted that out…I caught myself just in time.

P.S. It IS prettier that way!! DIRTY PAPISTS!!! Long live Martin Luther!!! mad cackle

**Just kidding!!! smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_1_131.gif **

 

[A.Pelliccio]

We shouldnt have adopted Proestant prayer practice in our most holy mass.

 

[Ann_Cheryl]

A.Pelliccio:

We shouldnt have adopted Proestant prayer practice in our most holy mass.

Did you miss this post stating that it is a Catholic Prayer.

Church MilitantThe FACT is that the KJV added it to one passage that contains the Our Father, as it is not in the original.

Where DID it come from? (Cover your eyes all you Prots),
It is a doxology from the non-canonical Didache.

Why is it included in the KJV, when it’s non-canonical?
Pax vobiscum,

 

[st_julie]

The line is from very ancient church tradition. The churchs’ response to thr Lords Prayer and obviously in common use at the time of the Reformation. However you are right that it was not written into the scriptures just like the litergy was not written into the scripture. Its’ removal from common Catholic practice was probably reactionary to accusations from Protestants.

st julie

 

[Church_Militant]

Curious:

Oh silly boy…I was just being goofy. I am, of course, very USED to it, with the ending “for thine is the kindgom and the power and the glory forever…” LOL…the last mass I attended I very nearly blurted that out…I caught myself just in time.

P.S. It IS prettier that way!! DIRTY PAPISTS!!! Long live Martin Luther!!! mad cackle

Just kidding!!! smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_1_131.gif

Ya gotta love her…

 

[Church_Militant]

A.Pelliccio:

We shouldnt have adopted Proestant prayer practice in our most holy mass.

We didn’t…we adopted a traditional Catholic doxology from a traditional Catholc text.

And placed it just where it belongs…outside of the Our Father.

 

[catherinesiena]

YinYangMom:

The problem isn’t that the words are used in prayer.
The problem is the Protestant Bible cites those words as having been said by Jesus Himself.

I would think it’s a big no-no to put words into God’s mouth.

We do not have in the world a copy of the original gospels, just copies of copies of copies. I think it is safe to say that no one can be 100% sure of what Christ said EXACTLY to the tee. And since our Catholic Church does say “for the kingdom and the power and the glory are yours forever, amen” I think that it is acceptable to say it.

 

[Genesis315]

We do not have in the world a copy of the original gospels, just copies of copies of copies. I think it is safe to say that no one can be 100% sure of what Christ said EXACTLY to the tee. And since our Catholic Church does say “for the kingdom and the power and the glory are yours forever, amen” I think that it is acceptable to say it.

Ahhh. See. Here is where Tradition and Apostolic succession comes in. Catholics have been praying the Our Father since before the New Testament existed. The Church does say that other part nowadays, but not as part of the Our Father. That part was not always said during the Mass either (the Tridentine Mass does not contain it). That being said, I don’t see any problem with praying that doxology after the Our Father.