Protestant View of Mariology

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pablope said:
What do you think is the difference between the phrase Mother of God vs Mother of Jesus?
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I see the person of Jesus, as an agent for the infiltration of evil and the world.

His feet are shod in peace, and his heart of flesh is full of love.
 
Aaron_Creagh said:
I see the person of Jesus
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How exactly

This person Jesus is fully human/fully divine?

Was Mary fully human?

So who’s humanity did the Living God biologically acquire?

Jesus was the Living God, human and divine, how do you see this paradox occurring?

You’ll have to explain your understanding of the Incarnation.

The Bible does state “Mother of the Lord”?

Does everyone in your congregation call Mary “Blessed” per Bible?
 
GaryTaylor said:
How exactly

This person Jesus is fully human/fully divine?

Was Mary fully human?

So who’s humanity did the Living God biologically acquire?

Jesus was the Living God, human and divine, how do you see this paradox occurring?

You’ll have to explain your understanding of the Incarnation.

The Bible does state “Mother of the Lord”?

Does everyone in your congregation call Mary “Blessed” per Bible?
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Many Fundamentalist do not call Mary “Blessed” or “Holy” or any such name. Usually she is simply called Mary or Mother of Jesus. Some Protestants call her the Virgin Mary as well, but usually Mary for most.
 
aidanbradypop said:
Many Fundamentalist do not call Mary “Blessed” or “Holy” or any such name. Usually she is simply called Mary or Mother of Jesus. Some Protestants call her the Virgin Mary as well, but usually Mary for most.
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How do you pronounce the word blessed?

Do you just use the one syllable version, or the two syllable version like most Catholics that I’ve come in contact with?

I personally think that Mary is very blessed.

Blessed and highly favored.

But we believe that one can miss the big picture…

That when accepting Christ as their Lord and Savior, they too are blessed and highly favored.
 
Aaron_Creagh said:
How do you pronounce the word blessed?

Do you just use the one syllable version, or the two syllable version like most Catholics that I’ve come in contact with?

I personally think that Mary is very blessed.

Blessed and highly favored.

But we believe that one can miss the big picture…

That when accepting Christ as their Lord and Savior, they too are blessed and highly favored.
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What is the big picture?
 
Symphorian said:
The 17th century Anglican Divine Mark Frank indicated that Gabriel’s Ave to Mary was significant in the role of salvation as it is “Eva spelled backwards; all Eve’s ill-spun web unravelled, undone, rolled backward by the conception of this blessed Virgin … temporal and eternal woes taken all away; nothing but joy and salvation to us if we will hear it with the Blessed Virgin and accept it

The Anglican Divines tended to maintain the traditional beliefs of the Church with regard to the perpetual virginity of the BVM.

+George Bull says in a sermon:

“Now the necessary consequence of this dignity of the blessed Virgin (that she was the Mother of God) is, that she remained for ever a virgin, as the catholic church hath always held and maintained. For it cannot with decency be imagined, that the most holy vessel, which was thus once consecrated to be a receptacle of the Deity, should afterwards be desecrated and profaned by human use.”

As an Anglican I believe that the Blessed Virgin Mary is God-Bearer (Theotokos) All-Holy (Panagia) and Ever-Virgin (Aeiparthenos). I also believe Mary is the chief of Saints and the gate of Heaven.
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Just saw this. My positions, basically.

GKC

Anglicanus-Catholicus
 
aidanbradypop said:
Nice to hear! I must have missed that post as well or have slept since then. 😛
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And it quotes Archbishop Bull. Good.

Some bits I might need to get some expansion on, but basically, sounds a lot like our current rector’s liturgy in the Mass.

GKC
 
GKC said:
And it quotes Archbishop Bull. Good.

Some bits I might need to get some expansion on, but basically, sounds a lot like our current rector’s liturgy in the Mass.

GKC
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Very nice, I missed that post too.
 
GKC said:
And it quotes Archbishop Bull. Good.

Some bits I might need to get some expansion on, but basically, sounds a lot like our current rector’s liturgy in the Mass.

GKC
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How much truth is in this? I guess really as far as it concerns your beliefs

*Although the Assumption of Mary is not an Anglican doctrine, 15 August is observed by some within Anglicanism as a feast day in honour of Mary. The Book of Common Prayer in the versions of the Scottish Episcopal Church and the Anglican Church of Canada mark the date as the Falling Asleep of the Blessed Virgin Mary. In the Episcopal Church in the United States of America, the day is observed as the Holy Day of Saint Mary the Virgin. In the Church of England the day is a Festival of the Blessed Virgin Mary. In some churches of the Anglican Communion and the Continuing Anglican churches, many Anglo-Catholics often observe the feast day as the Assumption.

The Anglican-Roman Catholic International Commission agreed statement on the Virgin Mary assigns a place for both the Dormition and the Assumption in Anglican devotion.*
 
aidanbradypop said:
How much truth is in this? I guess really as far as it concerns your beliefs

*Although the Assumption of Mary is not an Anglican doctrine, 15 August is observed by some within Anglicanism as a feast day in honour of Mary. The Book of Common Prayer in the versions of the Scottish Episcopal Church and the Anglican Church of Canada mark the date as the Falling Asleep of the Blessed Virgin Mary. In the Episcopal Church in the United States of America, the day is observed as the Holy Day of Saint Mary the Virgin. In the Church of England the day is a Festival of the Blessed Virgin Mary. In some churches of the Anglican Communion and the Continuing Anglican churches, many Anglo-Catholics often observe the feast day as the Assumption.

The Anglican-Roman Catholic International Commission agreed statement on the Virgin Mary assigns a place for both the Dormition and the Assumption in Anglican devotion.*
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No problem with any of this.

Since my late rector’s death, the sung Angelus we observed, after each Sung Mass, has been moved to a spoken Angelus, at the Wed. night service.

I miss it.

GKC
 
GKC said:
No problem with any of this.

Since my late rector’s death, the sung Angelus we observed, after each Sung Mass, has been moved to a spoken Angelus, at the Wed. night service.

I miss it.

GKC
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I think it differs within Episcopalianism. I have met a few who believe and a few who really have no opinion. I would stake much on that the Reformed Anglicans are against the Assumption? I know the Orthodox believe in Dormition of the Theotokos.
 
I heard it expressed before that if God spared Elijah and Enoch death, why then would he not do the same for the Mother of His Son?

Something to think about I guess
 
There has to be a reason.

Could it be because Elijah and Enoch were men, and Mary was not?
 
aidanbradypop said:
I think it differs within Episcopalianism. I have met a few who believe and a few who really have no opinion. I would stake much on that the Reformed Anglicans are against the Assumption? I know the Orthodox believe in Dormition of the Theotokos.
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Dormition is also common in Anglicanism, and one does hear it mentioned that the Orthodox share that. Assumption is also common. And I expect you are correct, as to the attitude of Anglicans more on the reformed edge.

Our parish Mary Shrine is of OL of Walsingham. Not surprisingly.

GKC
 
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