Protestant View of Mariology

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There is much to learn from reflection of Christ’s Transfiguration before His Passion, the feast day August 6 to August 15, Mary’s Assumption into heaven and what happened in Japan to the Japanese Catholics who were assumed into heaven by the bomb…and a Catholic survivor saying that they were the offerings to end the war.

Another note, this much more sensational. There were 8 German Jesuit priests…note their nationality from this war, their countryland that of the Naziis. When the bomb dropped in Nagasaki, they so close to the epicenter of the bomb, survived the blast,

Scientists studied them for many years, and none of them had any trace of radiation. I read of this when Fr Schuller died in 1983. When asked what made them think they had no trace, the reply was that they lived out the requests of Mary at Fatima for daily sacrifice with the morning offering…making everything an act of love for Christ, daily penance, and the recitation of the rosary. Her apparitions ended on October 13 with the miracle of the sun. The prophecy/request predicted the rise of Russia and spreading of her errors throughout the world…but in the end, her immaculate heart would triumph.’

Pope Pius XII had a vision, and something of the sun, of which I have never yet read. He declared in 1954 that Mary had assumed gloriously into heaven.

I have consecrated myself and my family to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, and have studied saints’ writings on the walk of union with God based on the Word of God and the sacraments, reflecting on Christ vs the nothingness of myself.

We take a different walk to God than Mary. But with her, she makes way for us, the ladder to the Lord is short, full of grace, and some day when we are finally made pure, we will also be glorified into heaven.
 
aidanbradypop said:
Many Fundamentalist do not call Mary “Blessed” or “Holy” or any such name. Usually she is simply called Mary or Mother of Jesus. Some Protestants call her the Virgin Mary as well, but usually Mary for most.
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Wait, wait, wait am I to understand that our Bible only students are not even following what the Bible states? :confused:
 
GaryTaylor said:
Wait, wait, wait am I to understand that our Bible only students are not even following what the Bible states? :confused:
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Now I can only speak from what I have heard and been around. I cannot speak for all of Protestantism. I was raised Baptist and I never heard Mary called anything other than Mary. They state that she was a virgin at the time Christ was born but do not hold to the PV. The only time she was every mentioned was during Christmas time. She was just Mary to them and nothing more. But see this view is coming from a view that although God blessed Mary to carry His Son on earth, she was simply just like any other woman.
 
That Mary was mostly hidden in the Gospels in fact tells us alot more about Mary.

There is so much to learn about Mary, and she takes the place of the feminine in God…She is not God but she is the bridge between God and us, and I don’t mean to displace Christ.

The Crucified Lord is the bridge to the Heavenly Father in heaven.

What I mean is Mary is advocate for sinners. She gives them confidence to believe God can forgive them for their sins and give them faith He loves them, and can turn to face now Christ and His forgiveness and mercy. So in this context, she is the bridge, the transmitter of grace.

Mary is the New Eve and gives voice and value to the dignity of women, and gives the Church its mother.
 
KathleenGee said:
That Mary was mostly hidden in the Gospels in fact tells us alot more about Mary.

There is so much to learn about Mary, and she takes the place of the feminine in God…She is not God but she is the bridge between God and us, and I don’t mean to displace Christ.

The Crucified Lord is the bridge to the Heavenly Father in heaven.

What I mean is Mary is advocate for sinners. She gives them confidence to believe God can forgive them for their sins and give them faith He loves them, and can turn to face now Christ and His forgiveness and mercy. So in this context, she is the bridge, the transmitter of grace.

Mary is the New Eve and gives voice and value to the dignity of women, and gives the Church its mother.
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Are you trying to start a war? lol just messing…I know what you mean but our Protestant brothers and sisters will not like this lol
 
Aaron_Creagh said:
I personally think that Mary is very blessed.

Blessed and highly favored.

But we believe that one can miss the big picture…

That when accepting Christ as their Lord and Savior, they too are blessed and highly favored.
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Amen, just a thought about the last sentence. Many Blessed individuals in Scripture. How many Mothers of the Lord? I notice your not forgetting Jesus while reciting all these other Blessed individuals.

Nevertheless, who is deciding here whats relevant in Christs Kingdom? Are you suggesting separating His Kingdom is right. Or that’s your opinion?

Would you say the condemnation for Tradition by Christians such as in this Biblical understanding you suggest is warrented?
 
GaryTaylor said:
Amen, just a thought about the last sentence. Many Blessed individuals in Scripture. How many Mothers of the Lord?
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There can only be one who gave the literal, physical birth to Jesus Christ.

But beyond that, there has been many mothers…of the church.
 
Aaron_Creagh said:
There can only be one who gave the literal, physical birth, to Jesus Christ.
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Affirmed, Mother of Lord, Biblically?

Aaron. I believe we have to admit, separating Christs Kingdom Biblically also separates the Kingdom in reality? You believe its the right approach ?
 
Aaron_Creagh said:
There can only be one who gave the literal, physical birth, to Jesus Christ.

But beyond that, there has been many mothers…of the church.
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Please correct me if I am wrong…Are you stating that Mary was no greater than Sarah, Elizabeth, etc…etc?
 
…We do not view Mary as the co-redemptrix of Salvation.
Not at all.
 
Aaron_Creagh said:
…We do not view Mary as the co-redemptrix of Salvation.
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   Not at all.
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Do you know what the Church says about that exactly or kind of?

The concept of Co-redemptrix refers to an indirect or unequal but important participation by the Blessed Virgin Mary in redemption, notably: that she gave free consent to give life to the Redeemer, to share his life, to suffer with him under the cross, to offer His sacrifice to God the Father for the sake of the redemption of mankind, and to bring about all particular post-assumption graces by way of intercession. How does that seem bizzare? It is actually rather beautiful!
 
aidanbradypop said:
Now I can only speak from what I have heard and been around. I cannot speak for all of Protestantism. I was raised Baptist and I never heard Mary called anything other than Mary. They state that she was a virgin at the time Christ was born but do not hold to the PV. The only time she was every mentioned was during Christmas time. She was just Mary to them and nothing more. But see this view is coming from a view that although God blessed Mary to carry His Son on earth, she was simply just like any other woman.
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Nor can I speak for all of Protestantism. I was raised in a Congregational Church for the most part but as I became a teen, for some reason, my parents made the ‘rounds.’

Congregational: Blessed Virgin Mary with many mentions
Methodist: Virgin Mary
Baptist: Mary and Virgin Mary
United Church of God: Mary
(I won’t mention the Unitarians…)
7th Day Adventist: zip
Presbyterian: zip
Amish/Mennonites: (As an remote observer): zip

Then again, the Congregational had a renegade pastor; his assistant once slipped in real wine and gave no notice to it. We didn’t see the assistant again…)
 
With regard to the assumption. I think it’s one of those things where, we are only talking about 2000 years here, if there was a grave, it would be known or found by now.

It would be (is?) one of the most searched for graves in history.

For the IC - God is perfect and chose to come to earth to instruct and try and guide back his creation to true love (Himself), he needed a deliverer of perfection.

It’s only as possible as it is for God to heal, or turn water into wine. He can do what He wants, in the IC case, it seems more like a need vs want, but either way, quite possible with God.
 
If you believe in the Bible alone without Church, yes…there is no place for Mary.

But that is not God’s will. He gave us her as our mother at the foot of the cross with St. John.

Would you think Mary would keep quiet before the Apostles about her life with Him??? Wouldn’t you think she would share in some way, in a continued way, the mission of her Son?

Bible without Church is also bible without communion of saints, and people coming together united with the Living Revelation of God with the Holy Father, the bishops, the saints before us, the saints now and tomorrow…

Mary is the greatest of all saints. I read a theological reflection that her prayers are more powerful than all the apostles, angels, and saints combined. Because she was conceived without sin. She is Queen of Heaven and Earth, and without her ‘yes’, Christ would not have been able to do His mission on earth.

Without Mary’s consent, we would not have Christ.
 
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