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Hi, I was raised in the Lutheran Brethren Church and recently I’ve been involved with catholicism through a close friend. Frankly, I adore the reverence of the catholic faith. I feel that the Lutheran Brethren could, and really should, adopt quite a few of there ways, including:

Decorating the sanctuary with the stations of the cross, keeping a cross or crucifix at the head of the congregation unobstructed by anything as a constant reminder, keeping a tabernacle in plain site as a constant reminder, serving the Eucharist at every mass/service, crossing ourselves,…there are a few more that evade my memory.

These things are simple! They serve as amazing reminders of Christ’s love, they help create sincere respect and humility towards God, they help us remain even more Christ-centered, and with no contradictions of belief.

What was it that made us (christians who exclude or neglect these things) give up these things? My point is that I would love to see more reverence and respect shown. I know my heart longs to more and more!

Just a thought:) God bless!

Carried by Christ,
Troy
 
The sad part about a lot of those things Protestants abandoned from what I have been told is that they dont do them for “fear” of sounding or looking “too Catholic”.
 
Hmm, yes, I agree, those are awesome things. I came from an evangelical protestant background that was as far from Catholicism as you could possibly imagine. To me, Lutheranism is FAR more liturgical and reverant than my past churches. I’m not saying we were irreverant, but the church was merely a gathering place for singing, praying and a sermon. It was nothing more, literally. We only believed in the Lord’s Supper as a symbolic gesture that we only partook of once or twice per YEAR.

It’s a good question to ask “why were these things abaondoned…” Search for it… I went on a search for the history of my evangelical protestant faith, and discovered I was missing a good portion of the Christian faith that was left behind and watered down. I found the “pure, not from concentrate” Christianity right where it originally came from - the Catholic Church.

-Michael
 
Troy Niems:
Hi, I was raised in the Lutheran Brethren Church and recently I’ve been involved with catholicism through a close friend. Frankly, I adore the reverence of the catholic faith. I feel that the Lutheran Brethren could, and really should, adopt quite a few of there ways, including:

Decorating the sanctuary with the stations of the cross, keeping a cross or crucifix at the head of the congregation unobstructed by anything as a constant reminder, keeping a tabernacle in plain site as a constant reminder, serving the Eucharist at every mass/service, crossing ourselves,…there are a few more that evade my memory.

These things are simple! They serve as amazing reminders of Christ’s love, they help create sincere respect and humility towards God, they help us remain even more Christ-centered, and with no contradictions of belief.

What was it that made us (christians who exclude or neglect these things) give up these things? My point is that I would love to see more reverence and respect shown. I know my heart longs to more and more!

Just a thought:) God bless!

Carried by Christ,

Troy
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What made protestants give up these things? Because they were so Catholic. They were protesting Catholicism. When you protest something you have to have things to protest against. (And I know you probably don’t think of yourself that way, but that is the history of your church. This is not meant as a personal attack at all, just trying to put things in historical perspective.)

For a more modern example, did you know in the US before the many Irish immigrated to America that Protestants called their pastors father? Once the Catholic Irish immigrants starting coming in such large numbers and Protestants realized that Catholics called priests father, they stopped. Now we have riduculous things from Jack Chick and others telling us it is wrong to call priests father. As if protestants have never done it themselves. There was an article about this, or maybe an e-letter from Karl Keating. I briefly looked for it but could not find it.

As for your heart longing for more and more, Why not become Catholic?😉

God Bless,
Maria
 
Troy Niems:
Hi, I was raised in the Lutheran Brethren Church and recently I’ve been involved with catholicism through a close friend. Frankly, I adore the reverence of the catholic faith. I feel that the Lutheran Brethren could, and really should, adopt quite a few of there ways, including:

Decorating the sanctuary with the stations of the cross, keeping a cross or crucifix at the head of the congregation unobstructed by anything as a constant reminder, keeping a tabernacle in plain site as a constant reminder, serving the Eucharist at every mass/service, crossing ourselves,…there are a few more that evade my memory.

These things are simple! They serve as amazing reminders of Christ’s love, they help create sincere respect and humility towards God, they help us remain even more Christ-centered, and with no contradictions of belief.

What was it that made us (christians who exclude or neglect these things) give up these things? My point is that I would love to see more reverence and respect shown. I know my heart longs to more and more!

Just a thought:) God bless!

Carried by Christ,
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Why ask Catholics, why dont you ask Protestants?
 
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SolaChristo:
Why ask Catholics, why dont you ask Protestants?
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Since there are protestants on this forum and you are one of them why don’t you answer?
 
Protestants believe that the Exodus 20 prohibition of graven images prevents statues and carved stations etc to be displayed.
 
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SolaChristo:
Protestants believe that the Exodus 20 prohibition of graven images prevents statues and carved stations etc to be displayed.
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So much for the Cherubim and Seraphim on the Ark of the Covenant.
 
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SolaChristo:
Protestants believe that the Exodus 20 prohibition of graven images prevents statues and carved stations etc to be displayed.
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So no pictures of Christ at all?
 
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SolaChristo:
Protestants believe that the Exodus 20 prohibition of graven images prevents statues and carved stations etc to be displayed.
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Carved stations. So you could have pictures? What is the difference?
 
Carved stations, pictures there is no difference. We think it is idolotry.

*So much for the Cherubim and Seraphim on the Ark of the Covenant.
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I dont believe that gives us liscence to make any and all sort of carved images.
 
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SolaChristo:
Carved stations, pictures there is no difference. We think it is idolotry.

So much for the Cherubim and Seraphim on the Ark of the Covenant.

I dont believe that gives us liscence to make any and all sort of carved images.
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So in your church or house you have not one picture of Jesus? No children’s Bibles with pictures of Jesus? No Sunday School lessons with pictures of Jesus? No SS lessons with pictures with Paul? No pictures of the apostles pulling in nets of fish?
 
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MariaG:
So in your church or house you have not one picture of Jesus? No children’s Bibles with pictures of Jesus? No Sunday School lessons with pictures of Jesus? No SS lessons with pictures with Paul? No pictures of the apostles pulling in nets of fish?
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LOL,

Other than my Catholic stuff I dont. I do have some basketball pictures.
What is the purpose have haveing a commandment that we dont obey?
The question is are all that stuff necessary?
 
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jim1130:
So much for the Cherubim and Seraphim on the Ark of the Covenant.
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And in the temple that Solomon built, per God’s instructions.

Notworthy
 
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SolaChristo:
LOL,

Other than my Catholic stuff I dont. I do have some basketball pictures.
What is the purpose have haveing a commandment that we dont obey?
The question is are all that stuff necessary?
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I asked about your Church. I have never yet been to a Church that did not have pictures of Jesus in their Sunday School material for children.

Your church has not pictures in any of its Sunday School material at all? I have never heard of that. Which Church?

And the commandment does not say pictures or carvings. It says Graven images.

graven image -
An idol or fetish carved in wood or stone. a material effigy that is worshipped as a god; “thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image”; “money was his god”

Idol -
    • An image used as an object of worship.
      *]A false god.
      The Catholic Church keeps all the commandments since none of its images are graven images. None are idols.
 
The thing I want to know is, if images are so gravely horrible, why did the first and second century Christians (the ones closest in time to the Apostles and their teaching–they had probably been taught by the Apostles and their disciples) have images of Christ and others in the catacombs?

st-philip.net/special_events/
hp.uab.edu/image_archive/cr-03/cr-01/fresco09.jpg
crc-internet.org/dec1.htm

Are we to conclude that the very first generations of believers defied the teaching which they had received (by word of mouth, as there was no bound Bible at that point), or are we to conclude that perhaps that teaching was that images are okay?

Pax Vobiscum
-ACEGC
 
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a material effigy that is worshipped as a god; “thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image”; “money was his god”

Idol -
    • An image used as an object of worship.
      *]A false god.
      The Catholic Church keeps all the commandments since none of its images are graven images. None are idols.
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    • From Merriman Webster—tymology: graven, past participle of 1grave
      : an object of worship carved usually from wood or stone : IDOL

      Catholics say they dont worship the images therefore its permissable. I would say that the prohibition is against the images themselves not only the use of the images.
 
As for my church. The church is so small we dont hold seperate Sunday School classes.
 
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