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Churchman25
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Is it an even worse sacrilege than a regular sacrilege, if a protestant attended the catholic mass and took the host.
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Kielbasi
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A protestant can’t be expected to know that it isn’t typically allowed. President Clinton can be held guilty to a lot of things, but when the priest offered communion to the president, was it really a sin on the part of Mr. Clinton to accept, he might have thought it would be the height of rudeness to decline for all that the president knew.
As far as your question is concerned, it really depends on the exact circumstance.
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Confiteor_Deo
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The degree of sacrilege would be the same, but the culpability might differ.
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dshix
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What’s a “regular sacrilege”?
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sirach2v4
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The commissioned lay minister in my parish is a very generous lady and gives of her time in extremely meaningful ways, like distributing Holy Communion in a local nursing home. she told me she gives the sacrament to non-Catholics who ask for it.
The late Fr Benedict Groeschel said once that in New York he had Jews come to him to make a confession of sins. He was talking about how surprised he was about this, but I don’t remember him saying how he handled it.
I don’t know if Baptism is required for the reception of other sacraments as a matter of church law.
Every Protestant baptism is recognized as valid and I think Fr. Mitch Pacwa used to “kid” about that on EWTN Live, in a way that suggested that all these protestants were budding Catholics or something.
Even Judas received the sacrament at the Lord’s last passover meal.
The late Fr Benedict Groeschel said once that in New York he had Jews come to him to make a confession of sins. He was talking about how surprised he was about this, but I don’t remember him saying how he handled it.
I don’t know if Baptism is required for the reception of other sacraments as a matter of church law.
Every Protestant baptism is recognized as valid and I think Fr. Mitch Pacwa used to “kid” about that on EWTN Live, in a way that suggested that all these protestants were budding Catholics or something.
Even Judas received the sacrament at the Lord’s last passover meal.
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paperwight66
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Well, MOST Protestant baptisms are recognised as valid,
More accurately. they have to be done using the Trinitarian formula to be valid.
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Phemie
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Yes, Baptism is a must for reception of other sacraments.
There’s are a lot of Protestant baptism that are but there’s a list of “Protestant” denominations as long as my arm whose baptisms are not recognized. My pastor recently sent me a list because I’m involved in baptismal preparation and have to be able to tell folks who they can legitimately have as a Christian witness. In our town that would only be the Anglicans and the members of the United Church of Canada and perhaps a handful of members of the two competing Baptist communities (they are a recent addition to our town’s religious landscape).
In our town of 7500 there are Catholics, Anglicans, UCC, 2 Baptist communities, Moravians, Salvation Army, Pentecostals, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Gospel Hall (Plymouth Brethren), and Baha’is. Two other small communities folded since we moved here: the Apostolic Church and the Church of the Nazarene.
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peter26
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However nice and generous a person she is, she should not be doing this. There are limited circumstances in which a non-Catholic may receive communion, but that would need to be judged by a priest on a case to case basis.
A priest can hear anyone’s confession, but can only give absolution to a Catholic. He could give anyone advice and a blessing. (One exception is a baptised Christian who is soon to be received into the Church).
Yes it is.
Most protestant baptisms are valid, but not all. A denomination that rejects the Trinity and therefore does not use the “Father, Son and Holy Spirit” formula for instance for not have a valid baptism (e.g. Jehovah’s Witness). Similarly, a group that does not use flowing water (e.g. Salvation Army) would not have a valid baptism.
And Jesus said it would have been better for Judas if he had never been born. Not exactly an endorsement of his behaviour. There can be little doubt that Judas was the first person to receive Communion unworthily (and we all know what St Paul had to say about doing that).
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exnihilo
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It is true we are held to a standard of being guilty for what we know and not what we did not know. It is true in a general sense that a Protestant can’t be expected to know. It is sadly probably true that in a real sense many Catholics don’t know.
I’ve known of Protestants who purposefully take communion in the Catholic Church knowing they are not supposed to. I’ve heard many confessions (as in a revelation in the course of relating an account) of Protestants who purposefully took communion because they think they have a right to communion and the Catholic Church is no authority to tell them otherwise. I can’t see how this isn’t a sacrilege. These people know and still partake.
I’ve also known Protestants who didn’t know better. They ended up in the communion line and received communion. Frankly I’m not sure how they didn’t know this was wrong. I’ve known this long before I became Catholic. In such cases I would think it is sacrilege but the guilt of the party would likely be mitigated by ignorance.
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KariBear
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At our church we have open communion every Sunday to all Baptized believers, not knowing this, when my husband went to his friends father’s funeral (Catholic) he received the bread, although he refused the wine (cup), as we don’t drink.
Anyway, some people got angry with him, and his friend has refused to speak to him since…he did not know, and thought if he didn’t follow the crowd he was doing wrong.
It was probably my fault as I told him, when he asked me what he should do, I said “just do as everyone else does”
Anyway, some people got angry with him, and his friend has refused to speak to him since…he did not know, and thought if he didn’t follow the crowd he was doing wrong.
It was probably my fault as I told him, when he asked me what he should do, I said “just do as everyone else does”
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