Protestants AGAINST Contraception!

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I just thought I’d throw this out there because I’ve been finding so much on the topic lately. Here are some sources if any of you are interested:

Articles
In Their Own Words - Protestants against Contraception

In Their Own Words - Contraception Revisited

Full Quiver Mission: Birth Control

Missionaries to the Preborn: Everything You Never Wanted to Know About Birth Control

Missionaries to the Preborn: The Protest of a Protestant Minister Against Birth Control

Books
Open Embrace: A Protestant Couple Rethinks Contraception

Life-Giving Love by Kimberly Hahn (yes, she’s Catholic now, but her opposition to contraception aided in her conversion)

Free Online MP3 Audio Downloads*
  1. The Bible and Birth Control (1 of 5) by Charles Provan at: sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sermonid=121303195832
  2. The Bible and Birth Control (2 of 5) by Charles Provan at: sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sermonid=121303224152
  3. The Bible and Birth Control (3 of 5) by Charles Provan at: sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sermonid=1214030509
  4. The Bible and Birth Control (4 of 5) by Charles Provan at: sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sermonid=121403155426
  5. The Bible and Birth Control (5 of 5) by Charles Provan at: sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sermonid=121403173550
And one more random article:
catholic.com/thisrock/1991/9107chap.asp

Not to mention all these good Catholic sites:
omsoul.com
all.org/issues_birthcontrol.php
rockforlife.org/html/know_contraception.html

*If you try to download these, they’ll ask for your email address. Just give it to them, because you can immediately unsubscribe. 👍
 
This wasn’t really a question or anything. I just wanted to show all you guys these links. If anyone has more, feel free to add them. 👍
 
Great work JSmitty!

As the Theology of the Body gets known, there will be more and more and more of this.

Interesting point that Scott Hahn makes; when the idea of marriage and human sexuality gets more and more orthodox, the closer and closer to understanding the Sacraments.

in XT.
 
Well I would like to post a question!

I would like to know the protestant stance on this issue, do you agree with this protestant side? And if not, why do you defer?

Through Bible Alone message you preach, where do you find contraception ok by using your bible alone theme?

As a former Baptist, I know that the church I went to never preached against not using contraception, and was never talked about. The only reason I knew that Catholics did not use contraception is from the insults I heard about Catholics having
A LOT of children.
 
Texan in DC:
Well I would like to post a question!

I would like to know the protestant stance on this issue, do you agree with this protestant side? And if not, why do you defer?

Through Bible Alone message you preach, where do you find contraception ok by using your bible alone theme?

As a former Baptist, I know that the church I went to never preached against not using contraception, and was never talked about. The only reason I knew that Catholics did not use contraception is from the insults I heard about Catholics having
A LOT of children.
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The majority of modern Protestants have no problem with it. However, some have come to see that it is intrinsically evil like the ones that I’ve linked to above. All of the original “reformers” hated it. I think Luther said it was even worse than adultery and incest, but I’m not sure. Some Protestants have said that the purpose of sex is for pleasure and then cite Proverbs 5:18-19; Song of Songs; 1 Corinthians 7:3-5,33-34. My source for that is here: new-life.net/faq006.htm Obviously that’s false. The purpose of sex is for procreation although that might not be the motive. God has attached pleasure to all of the things that He wants us to do. Eating is a good example of this. The purpose is not for pleasure, although that may be why we’re doing it. Along the same lines, this is why contraception is like bulimia. You can’t eliminate the act from it’s purpose or it becomes objectively disordered. (Sorry if I wasn’t supposed to answer all that. :o I wasn’t sure if that was directed to me since I started the thread or to Protestants.)
 
As an evangelical protestant, I believe any abortofacient method of birth control is impermissible. However I see no problem with barrier methods or withdrawal methods (wouldn’t reccomend this as a practical matter, doesn’t have a high success rate). NFP and barrier methods have the same intent, result and success rate when used correctly. Therefore I can see no moral difference.
 
I didn’t know any catholics growing up. It was the conservative reformed and presbyterian folks that were generally against birth control, prefering a providential view. They had the big families I was familiar with.

My parents, on the other hand, considered it part of their Christian Liberty to contracept. :rolleyes: At least I got one younger sister out of the deal.
 
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Vincent1560:
NFP and barrier methods have the same intent, result and success rate when used correctly. Therefore I can see no moral difference.
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You couldn’t be more wrong. The “intent” of barrier methods is: to have sex and still avoid pregnancy. The “intent” of NFP is: to lovingly sacrifice having sex when a couple needs to avoid pregnancy.

This analogy has been mentioned before, but to equate barrier methods with NFP is similar to equating binging and purging with healthy dieting or fasting. The “intentions” may seem similar. In all cases, the practioner is trying to avoid weight gain. Yet, the purger eats whatever and then purges, refusing to sacrifice for a greater good. The healthy dieter or faster, however, consciously makes the choice to sacrifice certain good foods in order to achieve his or her goal.

The intentions are quite different.
 
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JSmitty2005:
I just thought I’d throw this out there because I’ve been finding so much on the topic lately. Here are some sources if any of you are interested:

Articles
In Their Own Words - Protestants against Contraception

In Their Own Words - Contraception Revisited

Full Quiver Mission: Birth Control

Missionaries to the Preborn: Everything You Never Wanted to Know About Birth Control

Missionaries to the Preborn: The Protest of a Protestant Minister Against Birth Control

Books
Open Embrace: A Protestant Couple Rethinks Contraception

Life-Giving Love by Kimberly Hahn (yes, she’s Catholic now, but her opposition to contraception aided in her conversion)

Free Online MP3 Audio Downloads*
  1. The Bible and Birth Control (1 of 5) by Charles Provan at: sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sermonid=121303195832
  2. The Bible and Birth Control (2 of 5) by Charles Provan at: sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sermonid=121303224152
  3. The Bible and Birth Control (3 of 5) by Charles Provan at: sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sermonid=1214030509
  4. The Bible and Birth Control (4 of 5) by Charles Provan at: sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sermonid=121403155426
  5. The Bible and Birth Control (5 of 5) by Charles Provan at: sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sermonid=121403173550
And one more random article:
catholic.com/thisrock/1991/9107chap.asp

Not to mention all these good Catholic sites:
omsoul.com
all.org/issues_birthcontrol.php
rockforlife.org/html/know_contraception.html

*If you try to download these, they’ll ask for your email address. Just give it to them, because you can immediately unsubscribe. 👍
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It’s interesting to note that the authors of “Open Embrace” are no longer Protestant. They have become Eastern Orthodox.

Blessings,
 
When I first became a Christian, I too, came across several websites encouraging families to not use contraception. These were Protestant sites and before I was Catholic I used to love to persue them. I think that there was something in them that spoke to my heart.

I would agree with the poster that said that she had never heard a sermon for or against contraception in a protestant church. Neither had I, but I have run against some negative reactions to larger families from congregation members. I only have four children but when I was pregnant with my last, a more religious cousin asked my mother rather sarcastically, if I had ever heard of Birth Control.:nope: So, I am guessing that Protestants who come to the realization that they should be open to life have a more difficult time then Catholics with their decision.
 
David Zampino:
It’s interesting to note that the authors of “Open Embrace” are no longer Protestant. They have become Eastern Orthodox.

Blessings,
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That’s great news! Now if they’d only unite themselves with the Roman Pontiff.
 
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Vincent1560:
As an evangelical protestant, I believe any abortofacient method of birth control is impermissible. However I see no problem with barrier methods or withdrawal methods (wouldn’t reccomend this as a practical matter, doesn’t have a high success rate). NFP and barrier methods have the same intent, result and success rate when used correctly. Therefore I can see no moral difference.
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Didn’t God strike a man dead in the Old Testament for using the pull out method?
 
David Zampino:
It’s interesting to note that the authors of “Open Embrace” are no longer Protestant. They have become Eastern Orthodox.

Blessings,
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That is interesting because the Eastern Orthodox are not against contraception. The EOs have embraced the culture of death on this issue. It is a sad proof that the they are not the true Church.
 
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LatinCat:
Didn’t God strike a man dead in the Old Testament for using the pull out method?
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He sure did. Apparently Vincent didn’t read all the above links where even Protestants recognize the difference. But I guess you can concoct your own truth with private interpretation. “I can see no moral difference.”

But what does the Lord say?

“You shall **not ** do as we are now doing; here, everyone does what seems right to himself…”
Deuteronomy 12:8, Judges 17:6, Judges 21:25

“…Teacher, we know that you are a truthful man and that you are not concerned with anyone’s opinion. You do not regard a person’s status but teach the way of God in accordance with the truth.” Mark 12:14 also Matt. 22:16
 
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JSmitty2005:
He sure did. Apparently Vincent didn’t read all the above links where even Protestants recognize the difference. But I guess you can concoct your own truth with private interpretation. “I can see no moral difference.”

But what does the Lord say?

“You shall **not ** do as we are now doing; here, everyone does what seems right to himself…”
Deuteronomy 12:8, Judges 17:6, Judges 21:25

“…Teacher, we know that you are a truthful man and that you are not concerned with anyone’s opinion. You do not regard a person’s status but teach the way of God in accordance with the truth.” Mark 12:14 also Matt. 22:16
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If you read the relevant scriptures it is clear that what Onan failed to do was obey God’s commandment to provide his brother with an heir, that is the key issue the passage is dealing with. Inorder to draw the conclusion that what displeased God was the withdrawal in and of itself you have to interpolate that into the text. Usually when I have brought up this issue with Catholics they say that the penalty for failure to provide etc. is not death. In response I would like to point out that God is free to merit out punishment as he sees fit. God punished Lot’s wife with death because she looked back,and did the same to Annanias and his wife for HOLDING BACK (interesting parallel) part of their offering. On the other hand God often shows mercy to people who commit sins for which the penalty is death. (see Cain, King David, and Mary Magdoline) God is not constrained by the law, only men are.
 
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Vincent1560:
If you read the relevant scriptures it is clear that what Onan failed to do was obey God’s commandment to provide his brother with an heir, that is the key issue the passage is dealing with. Inorder to draw the conclusion that what displeased God was the withdrawal in and of itself you have to interpolate that into the text. Usually when I have brought up this issue with Catholics they say that the penalty for failure to provide etc. is not death. In response I would like to point out that God is free to merit out punishment as he sees fit. God punished Lot’s wife with death because she looked back,and did the same to Annanias and his wife for HOLDING BACK (interesting parallel) part of their offering. On the other hand God often shows mercy to people who commit sins for which the penalty is death. (see Cain, King David, and Mary Magdoline) God is not constrained by the law, only men are.
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Although you may think that you’ve found a loophole using your personal interpretation of the Scriptures, it’s still not in line with the way that Christians (Catholic & Protestant) have always understood it. I’ll stick with the interpretation that has historical continuity and integrity. 👍
 
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Vincent1560:
As an evangelical protestant, I believe any abortofacient method of birth control is impermissible. However I see no problem with barrier methods or withdrawal methods (wouldn’t reccomend this as a practical matter, doesn’t have a high success rate). …
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All Protestant denominations before 1930 roundly condemned artificial birth control as intrinsically evil. Is truth the opposite of what it once was? Did Sola Scriptura fail all of them?
 
DeFide said:
All Protestant denominations before 1930 roundly condemned artificial birth control as intrinsically evil. Is truth the opposite of what it once was? Did Sola Scriptura fail all of them?
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Most of them bordered on thinking sex was intrisically evil along with Catholics. Much of the literature of the day encouraged women to refuse their husbands as much as possible and only “give in” grudgingly.
 
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Vincent1560:
Most of them bordered on thinking sex was intrisically evil along with Catholics. Much of the literature of the day encouraged women to refuse their husbands as much as possible and only “give in” grudgingly.
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Could you provide a few links to this or name some books? I have never heard that women of long ago were encouraged to refuse their hubbies as much as possible. I thought that the opposite was true, that women were supposed to fulfill their ‘wifely duties’.
 
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