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You disagree with Luther’s point?
Oh my. So many things. Are you not familiar with the serious problems of families that lead to dysfunction and abuse? If not, you are both lucky and a bit naive. Alcoholism by itself is a major factor (the contributing causal factors for alcoholism are complicated, as well).
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rinnie
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How you figure that. What changed. You keep saying this and that has changed but what changed. What perspective changed???
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rinnie
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We didn’t, a sacrament is a outward sign instituted by Christ to give Grace. The Priest took that outward sign instituted by Christ to give grace in Holy Orders, thats giving his body heart and soul up to Christ. Whats your problem with that??? He believed as St Paul to give up everything for the Lord. He was called to this by God, Again whats your problem with that?
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rinnie
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Tell me this, St Paul says that a man that take a wife is divided in mind, half to please his wife, half to please the Lord. SO if a Man is called entirely by God to be undivided whats your problem with that?
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Young_Thinker
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For instance, that towards ecumenism and, to some extent, proselytization.
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Young_Thinker
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Blasphemy!
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choy
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there is nothing in scripture that points to Mary having any other children
notice that whenever there is someone who is mentioned as brother or sister of Jesus, they are never referred to as a son or daughter of Mary. only Jesus is referred to as a son of Mary. so this points to ONLY two things:
a. the brothers and sisters of Jesus are step-siblings from an earlier marriage of Joseph, who is an older man and was a widower by the time Mary was betrothed to him. this i believe is the Eastern tradition and is reflected in the apocryphal text Protoevangelium of James
b. they are cousins of Jesus as in most cultures (even today) where the family unit extends to the larger family (including uncles, aunts, cousins, maybe even grand aunts and grand uncles), the cousins are normally referred to as brothers and sisters especially in such cultures that make no distinction of it
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I actually have to agree with this, even though I am not an agnostic. Pat answers DO NOT work for families struggling with serious issues…they need understanding and care and not the “icicles of truth” thrown at them in the form of religious answers (not that anyone here is doing that.
Being in a very difficult marriage situation myself, 2 serious health issues and 2 special needs children, and having almost all my Christian support disappear after my heavy need threatened them b/c it didn’t/hasn’t improved with prayer,counseling, etc…it’s VERY hard! I know it sounds weird to say this but I’ve found New Age-type people to be the most helpful, kind – for the most part. But it’s the truth. Job’s counselors tried to answer for God to 'help" Job…then we read how God rebukes those who have “answers” for Job’s problems. Sometimes as people of faith, the best thing we can do for marriages/tough issues is simply BE Christ for people and not try to help by pontificating for God—be a role model w/o giving answers. That’s what does encourage me.
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Dokimas
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[SIGN]Quote from JMCRAE: They were never married in the sight of God, to begin with. God was not present at the “wedding.” Therefore, there is nothing for “man” (or woman) to “wrest asunder” - a valid Sacrament never existed.
A civil contract not involving God did exist, and that is what is severed in a decree of divorce. [/SIGN]
JM, how do you interpret this?1Co 6:16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.”
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larkin31
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May you continue to find strength and support from whomever you can.I actually have to agree with this, even though I am not an agnostic. Pat answers DO NOT work for families struggling with serious issues…they need understanding and care and not the “icicles of truth” thrown at them in the form of religious answers (not that anyone here is doing that.
Being in a very difficult marriage situation myself, 2 serious health issues and 2 special needs children, and having almost all my Christian support disappear after my heavy need threatened them b/c it didn’t/hasn’t improved with prayer,counseling, etc…it’s VERY hard! I know it sounds weird to say this but I’ve found New Age-type people to be the most helpful, kind – for the most part. But it’s the truth. Job’s counselors tried to answer for God to 'help" Job…then we read how God rebukes those who have “answers” for Job’s problems. Sometimes as people of faith, the best thing we can do for marriages/tough issues is simply BE Christ for people and not try to help by pontificating for God—be a role model w/o giving answers. That’s what does encourage me.
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Dokimas
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I actually have to agree with this, even though I am not an agnostic. Pat answers DO NOT work for families struggling with serious issues…they need understanding and care and not the “icicles of truth” thrown at them in the form of religious answers (not that anyone here is doing that.
Being in a very difficult marriage situation myself, 2 serious health issues and 2 special needs children, and having almost all my Christian support disappear after my heavy need threatened them b/c it didn’t/hasn’t improved with prayer,counseling, etc…it’s VERY hard! I know it sounds weird to say this but I’ve found New Age-type people to be the most helpful, kind – for the most part. But it’s the truth. Job’s counselors tried to answer for God to 'help" Job…then we read how God rebukes those who have “answers” for Job’s problems. Sometimes as people of faith, the best thing we can do for marriages/tough issues is simply BE Christ for people and not try to help by pontificating for God—be a role model w/o giving answers. That’s what does encourage me.
It 's sad when we (those who profess Christ) don’t reveal God’s love to those like yourself that are hurting and struggling with life’s situations.
Let me try to encourage you to not give up on prayer. Just because no apparent answer has come to date, the end of the story, so to speak, is not yet written. As Jesus said, ‘Be of good cheer; I (Jesus) have overcome the world’ and the devil and his attempt to destroy us through life’s situations.
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mark_a
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First and above all, I’m sorry for your situation.I actually have to agree with this, even though I am not an agnostic. Pat answers DO NOT work for families struggling with serious issues…they need understanding and care and not the “icicles of truth” thrown at them in the form of religious answers (not that anyone here is doing that.
Being in a very difficult marriage situation myself, 2 serious health issues and 2 special needs children, and having almost all my Christian support disappear after my heavy need threatened them b/c it didn’t/hasn’t improved with prayer,counseling, etc…it’s VERY hard! I know it sounds weird to say this but I’ve found New Age-type people to be the most helpful, kind – for the most part. But it’s the truth. Job’s counselors tried to answer for God to 'help" Job…then we read how God rebukes those who have “answers” for Job’s problems. Sometimes as people of faith, the best thing we can do for marriages/tough issues is simply BE Christ for people and not try to help by pontificating for God—be a role model w/o giving answers. That’s what does encourage me.
My post is not directed at specific situations, but at this culture’s situation in general. Suffering comes to almost everyone and it seems you have a megaload.
Best wishes to you.
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rinnie
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What changed, I still do not understand. The RCC has always welcomed all to the Church. The teaching is the exact same as always.
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Young_Thinker
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I am sorry; I am basically speaking about policy.What changed, I still do not understand. The RCC has always welcomed all to the Church. The teaching is the exact same as always.
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schaick
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You can of course believe Mary remained a virgin if you need to. Fed by the hand of an angel from age 3-12? Was Jesus also feed by an angel- or because Mary was a virgin then she was allowed to feed Him?
Was Mary’s mother concieved without sin also- Catholics say Jesus would have been defiled [even though He was GOD’s Word incarnate] so Mary would have been defiled if her mother had not been concieved without sin and then her mother before that and on and on?
The Protoevangelium of James was written too late, helped in formation of the cult of Collyridians- early church fathers didn’t recognize it as inspired scripture. Even gnostics understood the book to be spurious.
Jesus is the focus of the Gospel- there is no need for the authors to say the sons of Mary, brothers of Jesus is enough.
Mary remaining a virgin has noting to do with our salvation.
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schaick
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I have not reviled or cursed GOD unless of course you believe Mary is a god.
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Young_Thinker
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She is Mother of God.
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rinnie
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Mary saying Yes to God is what had everything to do with our Salvation. I believe you got our faith backwards thats for sure.
Mary was chosen by God, and saved from sin at her conception. Thats long before she was born. No Anna was born into original sin like us all. She was not saved by God at her conception like our Mother Mary.
We were all born into original sin after Adam and Eve, please go back and read it, its there. If Mary was not saved from Original Sin, then Jesus would have been born into it also like us. But she was saved from It. So Jesus was born free from sin. That was Gods plan. I am sorry you cannot understand this, but that was Gods plan.
IF you read the O.T. you will read of the Ark that contained the word.
Mary was the Ark, free from sin that contained the Word Jesus Christ. IT was Gods plan.
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