Protestants and the Bible Alone?

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kpnuts2k:
that god does still speak through peeps?
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Peeps? I assume that means people?

Yes God can still speak thru people. However that’s not what my point was in the other post.

I was talking about written and oral teachings. Oral teachings that have been handed down since the Bible days are just as valid as teachings in Scripture.

SV
 
No the personal words you had, (although valid) is not what I mean. Those were personal words for that person. I am talking about the words of God that were passed down by word of mouth (preaching) but not written down. I gave you several references to those that were written down in the Bible so you don’t have to take my word for it!
 
so you are telling me that robin hood is the same as the man that lived?

no cos humans change things

and yes peeps means people!
 
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they didnt have the bible as we know it but they had pauls letters which make up most of our new t
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Satin has decieved many people some of them very holy people. He is much smarter than you or me and he knows your weaknesses.
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kpnuts2k:
they didnt have the bible as we know it but they had pauls letters which make up most of our new t
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This is true but they also had all the other writings of Irinaeus and Ignatious and so on.
i ment the christain nt rather than the jewish torah which is our old t
sorry about the wording it was not ment to cause offence
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The Torah is the first five books of the old Testament. I think you mean the Septuagent.
ive been looking on alot of catholic websites and they quote from writings that i have never heard of but i know that they are not the bible
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There are many writings that are true to the faith.
well god talks to us like just at the weekend i had a word for a church plus i had a word for a single person
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i also recived a word from a friend of mine
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is that what you mean?
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The Oral tradition is the teachings of the Christian faith that is passed down by the word of mouth. Like some of the Marian dogmas.
 
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kpnuts2k:
so you are telling me that robin hood is the same as the man that lived?

no cos humans change things

and yes peeps means people!
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Is English your native language?

What does Robin Hood have to do with this?

SV
 
My saving grace sermon said either you believe the Bible 100% or we have nothing else to talk about. The Bible says hold fast to those things I have written to you and spoken to you. Clearly there are two kinds of God’s word. Do you not believe God can hold His word true especially since He told us to hold fast to those words?
 
Regarding sola scritpura:

If Protestant’s believe that the Bible alone is sufficient to equip one with all moral and doctrinal knowledge necessary for salvation, what do they say when they need to apply the Christian deposit of the faith to an issue in life that is not directly addressed in the Bible?
One example among many would be war. Catholic tradition has had a centuries old just-war doctrine. How does a sola scriptura Protestant answer the unavoidable moral question of if and under what cicumstances is it necessary for a nation to go to war?
The Old Tetstament certainly sanctions war, but it must be reconciled with the message of peace given by Christ? How do you answer such a question with just the Bible. Having recourse to a tradition–examining the precedents of scriptural interpretation and the history of applying Church teaching–helps Catholics answer thorny issues as they arise.
 
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Is English your native language?

What does Robin Hood have to do with this?

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yep english is my native lanuage but my spelling is shite and my typing isnt much better as ive gpot a new keyboard

rh has alot to do with it if you think how much the story has chaged and if that story isnt nearly as long a the bible it would have changed loads if it is not writen
 
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kpnuts2k:
yep english is my native lanuage but my spelling is shite and my typing isnt much better as ive gpot a new keyboard

rh has alot to do with it if you think how much the story has chaged and if that story isnt nearly as long a the bible it would have changed loads if it is not writen
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Ah ok then I am going to guess you are from the UK right?

Christ promised He would lead the Church and the gates of hell would not prevail. Christ protects the Truth and the Church He established before He left the earth.

SV
 
but i know that they are not the bible
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How do you know this? The man-made tradition of Luther perhaps? Are you aware that the Bible before Luther had more books in it? It is he that removed the books he didn’t like (to include NT books).

I even met another Protestant that does not consider the Epistle of James to be in “HIS” Bible (just like Luther). Hmmmm. Go figure. When the Church no longer has authority, we can decide for ourselves what the Bible consists of.

The Mormons add books. The Protestants take away books. Yet the Bible first canonized in the 4th century remains the Bible of the Catholic Church.
 
Even though Catholic, I still stand on the Bible. The Bible tells us His word will never pass away. (That has to mean change too or it would be as if it passed away). He also tells us in the Bible to hold fast to His word, written and spoken. The Catholic Church is the only church to hold fast to that spoken word. So in fact, it is the only Biblical Church of Christ.

God Bless
 
it would have changed loads if it is not writen
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Are you saying that God is only powerful enough to preserve written manuscripts, but not powerful enough to preserve oral tradition? Does this sound as foolish to you as it does to me?
 
but goin bac 2 da 1st topic are u saying that if the bible didnt exist cathoics would stay on the right road?
 
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kpnuts2k:
but goin bac 2 da 1st topic are u saying that if the bible didnt exist cathoics would stay on the right road?
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Yes and they did for several hundred years…there was no Bible after the death of Christ, for quite some time!

SV
 
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kpnuts2k:
but goin bac 2 da 1st topic are u saying that if the bible didnt exist cathoics would stay on the right road?
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Kpnuts2k, I just wanted to say that I like the way you write. R U really da Artist Formerly Known As Prince?
 
Yes and they did for several hundred years…there was no Bible after the death of Christ, for quite some time!

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kpnuts2k:
but they had pauls letters which are part of da bible
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Pauls letters weren’t complete, that’s not THE Bible…and you will notice that the practice of Christianity did NOT change after the Bible was compiled…until the protestant movement 1500/1600’s.

SV
 
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