Protestants are def not Cathoilcs

[Missa]

Lisa4Catholics:

As a former protestant I take offence. Why? I love being Catholic this gift of Faith has been the best thing my children and I could have recieved from the Lord.You have to understand that MOST protestants have been told lies about Our Church,Lies that came down generations. Just to be open to finding out about the Catholic Faith is a major leap for them.The thread post is rather hateful. I know that some of them go in for an attack when they come here.But are you going to act in an uncharitable manner because of them?God Bless You-do unto others:tsktsk:

I have to agree with Lisa - I am still a Protestant - albeit one who feels very strongly called to the Catholic church - and I was thinking about the earlier thread posted along these lines yesterday while I was sitting in church. The people that I have known throughout my life - family and church family - who have never been exposed to the Catholic church or have been fed lies about the Catholic church - I fail to believe that they are any less Christian than a Catholic. My grandmother was one of the most godly women I have ever known and she probably never gave a second thought to the Catholic church - but she knew her Bible backwards and forwards - and by the time she died she had read it completely through several times. She knew and loved Jesus as her Saviour.

These folks love the Lord with all their heart and are busy doing His work here on earth - as a would-be convert this attitude that marineboy has shown is very distasteful to me. His attitude is not what I would call Christian - nor would anyone else I know. Fortunately the folks I have come in contact with at my local parish have not displayed the same uncharitable attitude - or I probably would have run the other way.

Just my :twocents:

Missa

 

[Missa]

Sean O L:

Here are my 2 cents worth:

When any person is validly baptized he/she immediately becomes a Catholic - a member of the Mystical Body of Christ on Earth.

Once a Catholic always a Catholic! However, of course, there ARE shades: good practising, fallen away, schismatic, heretical, etc. All are sinners in some way at some time(s) in their lives and are required to work hard for their salvation. But the character of Baptism is imprinted on the soul.

ALL who are in Heaven (whether they have attained their salvation here on earth as Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants, Jews, Islamics, Bushmen, etc.) ARE in Heaven and ARE there Members of Christ’s Mystical Body in Heaven.

How many were Catholics, Orthodox…Bushmen is unknowable to us. Who can fathom God’s Divine Mercy? But, whatever they were here on earth - in Heaven ALL are Catholics.

Sean - THAT is the right attitude to have!!!
Amen, brother!!

Missa

 

[nucatholic]

Question. If God is the trinity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit then how can Muslims worship the same God if they deny his existance as a trinity?

 

[Sunniva]

nucatholic:

Question. If God is the trinity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit then how can Muslims worship the same God if they deny his existance as a trinity?

This has been discussed ad nauseam before. I suggest you search the “Non-Catholic religions” forum. This question was also asked in the “Ask an Apologist” forum.

 

[Sean_O_L]

Hi nucatholic,

Question. If God is the trinity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit then how can Muslims worship the same God if they deny his existance as a trinity?

In the same way that Jews also worship the same way. Here is how - as explained by Fr. Brian Harrison, O.S.:

Muslims Worship the One True God
Only Their ‘Receiving Apparatus’ Is Defective
By Fr. Brian W. Harrison, O.S.

Furthermore:

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" have just been looking at the Al-Bushra website. al-bushra.org/ On this page it states: Al-Bushra stands pro-Truth, pro-Justice and pro-Peace & prays God Allah, HsShem, Adonai, the Most Holy for Mankind."

"At al-bushra.org/bushra/albushra.htm Al-Bushra is described as an Arab American Roman Catholic Community created by Rev. Labib from the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem (The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Jerusalem.

On this web-page it says: “As we believe in ONE GOD, that GOD, ALLAH, ADONAI, HaShem, the MOst Holy is One for all of us.”

On one of the on-line files - “The Christian Arab Heritage”, by Dr. Fr. Labib Kobti,
al-bushra.org/arbhrtg/arbxtn04.htm is the following:

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“Recently Father Pecerillo, a famous Franciscam Archiologist, found more than twenty churches in Madaba at the south of Jordan. From the Forth Century we found houses in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Palestine with the inscription in Arabic: ‘Bism El-Lah al Rahman al Rahim’ that showed that Christians were the first to use this name so as to indicate their belief in the Holy Trinity, more than two hundred years before Islam.”

It seems to me that the inscription is the same as “In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.” Also, it seems that “El-Lah” is very close to “Allah.”

In another source, “The First Christians” by Audrey Shabbas at mepc.org/public_asp/workshops/firstchris.asp - I think this is a Protestant site - it is stated that:

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“Arab Christians pray to Allah. ‘Allah’ is the Arabic word for one God. If your language is Arabic, this is the word you use in worshipping the one God. Jesus, who spoke Aramaic, used the word ‘Allaha,’ and the word in Hebrew is ‘Ailohim’ – all three words derive from the same root.”

Hope this helps, Sean O L"

Originally posted to Fr. Joe Horn, O.Praem’s “100% Catholic” Forum at holyjoe.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1650#1650