Protestants, can a Catholic Priest forgive sins?

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Ginger2 said:
I thought we put this to rest a long time ago. 🤷

I have answered this question - several times…but on the outside chance we can put this issue to rest…
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In the name of Jesus Christ, I was raised Catholic.**

It’s a shame to see so many of you obsessed with trying to deny my pass. Denying the truth does not change it.

But it’s even more disheartening to see you rationalize away your sin. Bearing false witness is breaking the 9th commandment.

I forgive all of you in the Name of Jesus Christ for your ignorance and false accusations against me. (including those not quoted in this post)
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I never doubted that you might have been a cradle Catholic. However the point is that from the things you say about the Church it doesn’t look like it. Your utterances regarding what Catholics believe is certainly no evidence that you might have been Catholic because you display utter ignorance. As I said in one of my posts, even a 7 year old communicant would know better. THAT is the point we were all trying to make. You might have gone thru the motions but you never really knew the Faith.

You are a bit of a Drama Queen Ginger - turning this around on us and trying to show us up to be so mean. No, you said some strong things about the Church and you must expect us to react when untruths are said about our Faith. You must expect us to defend the truth of the Catholic Church.

What is the point of all this?

I am sure you love God and your Faith very much. So why should we argue? This is not a contest. I thought forums are for debate, sharing and learning. You can learn something about our Faith and we can share something about yours. The problem comes about when you and other Protestants think you know best what Caholics believe than we do. It must be said in all fairness that you might know more than some Catholics about the Church - there are ignorant Catholics. There are also simple folk with childlike Faith and God love them all the same.

🙂
 
Cinette said:
You forget one word Ginger - repentance - the essential ingredient for forgiveness.
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:confused:

I did a quick search in this thread and found I used the following words in these posts:

sincerely repents
#85

sincerely repentant
#39

Truly repentant
#65
#73
#248

Truly sorry
#242

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So I don’t understand how you can say I “forget one word - repentance - the essential ingredient for forgiveness.**”
 
Ginger2 said:
All the training in the world cannot give a priest the power to read minds and hearts. Other Catholics in this thread have agreed the sins will remain on a person who is not truly repentant - even tho the priests said his sins were absolved.
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There you go again making an argument about things both sides agree! There is no point. A lot of words have been wasted in doing that!:eek: :eek:
 
Ginger2 said:
:confused:

I did a quick search in this thread and found I used the following words in these posts:

sincerely repents
#85

sincerely repentant
#39

Truly repentant
#65
#73
#248

Truly sorry
#242

So I don’t understand how you can say I "forget one word - repentance - the essential ingredient for forgiveness."
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You know you’re playing dumb there. You know exactly what Cinnette meant.:tsktsk:
 
Ginger2 said:
Why is this so hard for you to understand? If a person is sorry only because they have to suffer consequences, then they are not truly repentant, are they.

Just as Protestants can falsely belief OSAS is a free pass to heaven, so can catholics falsely believe the same about confession.
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It is women like that give us women a bad reputation. Men talk about “feminine logic” because of women like you!

Ginger! Really!

:eek: :confused:
 
It does not matter if priests grant absolution to someone who isn’t repentant. A non-repentant soul is on shaky ground the minute he leves the confessional. His heart is unchanged. God will have enough to confront him about one day.

We should concern ourselves with whether or not it is proper doctrine for the repentant believer. Because if it is, then non-Catholics are in danger, particularly if they have mortal sin on their soul.

Blessings,

Lisa
 
Any chance of an answer to post #356 Ginger or are you just going to ignore it?
 
Ginger2 said:
:confused:

I did a quick search in this thread and found I used the following words in these posts:

sincerely repents
#85

sincerely repentant
#39

Truly repentant
#65
#73
#248

Truly sorry
#242

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So I don’t understand how you can say I “forget one word - repentance - the essential ingredient for forgiveness.**”
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I was looking at your post #359 and thinking to myself what is Ginger trying to say here - whether a Catholic is getting a free pass for sin or a Protestant is doing the same thing with OSAS - what is the point of the argument. Then I remembered that the essential in a situation like this is repentance. I was not referring to your other postings.

Oh Ginger!!
 
*Hey Ginger! Enough!

*You know after all this I do not bear you any grudges.

Shall we start again?

OK?

Rules of the game: Do not argue about anything on which we both agree.

If you say something insulting or untrue about the Catholic Church you must expect us to defend our faith vigoriously.

People are always saying Muslims defend their faith and go overboard and Catholics do nothing. Well my dear, not on these forums!!!

Cheers
Cinette

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Cinette said:
#85 Anyone who sincerely repents and asks forgiveness from God will be forgiven - without the need of a priest. - Gospel according to Ginger2.
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Psa 86:5 For thou, Lord, [art] good, and ready to forgive; and plenteous in mercy unto all them that call upon thee.

Surely you are suggesting that someone truly repentant will not be forgiven by God simply because he/she wasn’t absolved by a Catholic priest? I think you know better than that.

Our salvation is not dependent on the human judgment of a priest, but rather on our faith in Christ Jesus.

Romans 10:13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
 
Cinette said:
#114 The questions you ask and your comments do not attest to being Catholic.
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Of course not. I’m not a Catholic any longer! Why would anything I say attest to my being Catholic. I am a Bible thumping Jesus freak!!!
 
Cinette said:
In #165 you talk about Jesus giving the Holy Spirit to his disciples who gave the Holy Spirit to others who were not able to pass the Holy Spirit to anyone. These are statements that no Christian would make since we all know that we cannot “pass on” the Holy Spirit to anyone. The Holy Spirit is God – the third person of the Trinity!
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Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid [his] hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.**

ACTS 8:14 Now when the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent them Peter and John,
15 who went down and prayed for them, that they might receive the holy Spirit,
16 for it had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
17 Then they laid hands on them and they received the holy Spirit.
18 When Simon saw that the Spirit was conferred by the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money
19 and said, “Give me this power too, so that anyone upon whom I lay my hands may receive the holy Spirit.”
20 But Peter said to him, "May your money perish with you, because you thought that you could buy the gift of God with money.
21You have no share or lot in this matter, for your heart is not upright before God.

Philip was there and could have prayed for them and layed hands on them, but he didn’t. Philip sent for Peter and John.
 
benedictus2 said:
Well your kind of thinking IS ILLOGICAL.

How can you say it is plain then at the same time claim it is plain only to those who are saved.

It is NOT PLAIN that Jesus is the Messiah or else the Jews would not still be waiting for one.

If something is plain, IT IS PLAIN. Otherwise, when you put pre-conditions, IT IS NOT LONGER PLAIN.

There may be some things that are plain to a surgeon even tho they are not plain nor understood by you. I’m certain there are some things very plain to a physicist that are not plain to a beautician. And things that are plain to a machanic that are not plain to every man on Earth even tho we steriotype men to understand the mechanics of automobiles.

It is only through careful and indepth study and a lot of help from the Holy Spirit that some have actually come around to this belief.

Scripture tells us Paul believed in an instant, received the Holy Spirit and began preaching without any instruction from men.

And who determines who is perishing. You?

No. God. And God reveals Himself to whom He wants when He wants and how He wants. With or without the help of the catholic church.

Oh and yes, I have human logic. What else kind of logic is there? Logic only fails when the conclusions arrived at are illogical and there was nothing illogical in my statement.
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Sometimes God asks us to do things that seem illogical to us. We do them anyway.

Why?
 
Ginger2 said:
You err not knowing the Scriptures…

Jesus plainly told us the Gospel is hidden from those who are perishing.
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if only the elect who will be saved understand scripture correctly then at least all of those elect should share the same understanding as there is only one Truth, which means all those with a different conflicting understanding from the elect must be going to hell right?

In the name of Christ I ask you to give me a straightforward answer.

Ginger do you believe all those with a different understanding of scripture to yourself are perishing?
 
Ginger2 said:
Psa 86:5 For thou, Lord, [art] good, and ready to forgive; and plenteous in mercy unto all them that call upon thee.

Surely you are suggesting that someone truly repentant will not be forgiven by God simply because he/she wasn’t absolved by a Catholic priest? I think you know better than that.

Our salvation is not dependent on the human judgment of a priest, but rather on our faith in Christ Jesus.

Romans 10:13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
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you quoted Pslams as a reference, since Jesus did not institute the sacrament of Reconcilation till the New Testament era, the Jewish people were forgiven of thier sins through sacrificial offerings. they had to do something to be forgiven. now since the New Testament mirrors the O.T. does it not make sense we should have some ritual to do to be forgiven? And like I have said before it is NOT the priest but JESUS CHRIST who is in the confessional forgiving our short commings and failures so we can go on not heavy burdened but a renewed creature of GOD, ready to do the Fathers will.
 
Ginger2 said:
There may be some things that are plain to a surgeon even tho they are not plain nor understood by you. I’m certain there are some things very plain to a physicist that are not plain to a beautician. And things that are plain to a machanic that are not plain to every man on Earth even tho we steriotype men to understand the mechanics of automobiles.
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But the Bible is not meant for a specific class of people as doctors and mechanics.

It is meant for ALL because salvation is meant for ALL. Christ died for ALL of us. So if the Bible is meant to be our source of knowledge about His Saving Power, then it must be meant for All. It stands to reason that it must be plain to ALL.
Scripture tells us Paul believed in an instant, received the Holy Spirit and began preaching without any instruction from men.
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Paul had an amazing conversion experience. He was specifically CHOSEN by God for a specific purpose. We can’t all claim to be Pauls and given the same gift.
It is presumptous to think that we are all gifted in this way.
No. God. And God reveals Himself to whom He wants when He wants and how He wants. With or without the help of the catholic church.
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But just about every tom,**** and harry of a Protestant has claimed that and came up with differing interpretations which has now resulted in thousands of churches. Even if there were only 3 different Protestant churches that would still be 2 churches too many and would still bring up the question as to which one of them was guided by the Holy Spirit.
Sometimes God asks us to do things that seem illogical to us. We do them anyway.
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True. But how do you know, it is really God who is asking you? You are totally discounting the fact that the devil can mimmick God sometimes and has in fact led astray many by this very tactic.

Those who started cults and declared that they are allowed to have multiple wives even as young as 10 and later on get their congregation to drink poison claimed they were guided by God. And they were basing that on the Bible.
 
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