Protestants, can a Catholic Priest forgive sins?

[benedictus2]

correct i agree with this answer., that only god can forgive are sins. but whos of the 3 father, son, and the holy spirit?.

But He has GIVEN that authority to his disciples and this priests. Read the passage again/

 

[Bill_Pick]

And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the holy Spirit.
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Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.” JOHN 20,23

 

[FollowGodAlone]

You do not have to confess to a priest to be forgiven of sin. that is just a catholic teaching which is a lie. Jesus died on the cross for your sins and through him alone can you be forgiven, not through a priest. a priest did not die on the cross for your sins, JESUS DID.

“Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?” Mark 2:7

The reason the catholic church says you need to confess to a priest is to manipulate or create fear or need to stay in the church to keep you in their religion (control).

“And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Acts 2:21

just call onto God and ask him to come into your heart and to forgive you of your sins and you shall be saved.

Theres soo much more to God than going to church and doing good deeds and trying to live a good life. All of that is great but it won’t get you into heaven. God is not all about sitting in church every sunday and being kind to your brothers and sisters, its soo much more!

Religion is a man made thing, therefore it has its flaws and is imperfect. God is not about religion but a relationship. Spend time with him everyday as you would your wife or family and just talk with him and spend time praying and worshiping him. Read the bible (King James version) and study his words and teachings and when you ask him into your heart and give your life to him he will reveal soo much to you, unimaginable things.

Jesus Loves You!

God Bless

 

[FollowGodAlone]

Pokedaughter, how do you know that your Protestant Brothers and sister that you go and confess your sins too are in good relationship with God and is a believer?

Pokedaughter, when you go and confess your sins to a believer, do you go into detail of what type of sins you have committed. For Example; wether it be adultry, or stealing, or smoking pot, road rage, etc… Do you go into detail when you confess your sins to a believer? If you go to a believer and say I have sined and don’t tell why type of sins you you have committed then how can you be truly sorry for them and expect to be forgiven by God and be effective ministers to God.

As a Catholic when one sins we have to go and say what type of sins we have committed to a priest, and that is very humbling and shameful at times, but we do it to be forgiven by God through a Priest.

Ufam Tobie

ufamtobie,

A priest has no right to forgive sin. For he was not the one that died on the cross for our sins. He is human, therefore imperfect and sinful, just as anyone else. The only one who can forgive sins is the Lord Jesus Christ for he is the only sinless and perfect one.
Confessing to a priest is just a catholic belief to create fear or manipulation to keep the followers in the control of the catholic church. By going to a priest and confessing your sins, it creates this imagery or picture that a priest is more holy than you and has power from God that you dont, making you do what he tells you or feel the need to go to him for something instead of Christ. It is all part of the system of catholicism to keep you under them.
Ask Jesus into your heart and for forgiveness and you will be saved.
“And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Acts 2:21

It is blasphemy to say you can forgive sins for you are not God.
“Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?” Mark 2:7

 

[FollowGodAlone]

Thorwald,

Your profile says you are a prostestant? but if you are not yet baptized then you are no Christian yet until you are baptized. So it is not God who is telling you this about the errors, of the Churches it is the devil. GET BAPTIZED! ASAP!

Ufamtobie

ufamtobie,

You do not have to be baptized to be a christian, there is no truth in that. That is a catholic teaching. By asking Jesus to forgive you of your sins (not a priest) and asking Jesus to come into your heart, you are born again and saved. That is how you become a christian, by doing what the bible says, not by doing what a teaching from a religion says.

For God does not want religion, He wants relationship.

 

[FollowGodAlone]

But the question is, is it God who told you so? The devil mimicks the voice of God so unless you have confirmation from another, you are in a slippery slope to perdition.

You are not sure that you have been baptized by the Holy Spirit. That is only an assumption on your part. The only way to be incorporated into the Body of Christ is by Baptism.

benedictus2

You are very right “The devil mimicks the voice of God…”
A very good way he does so is through religion…
“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Matthew 7:15

“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1

 

[ConfusedTim]

So Jesus wasted his breath when he said

"And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the holy Spirit.
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Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.” JOHN 20,23

 

[Bill_Pick]

You do not have to confess to a priest to be forgiven of sin. that is just a catholic teaching which is a lie. Jesus died on the cross for your sins and through him alone can you be forgiven, not through a priest. a priest did not die on the cross for your sins, JESUS DID.

“Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?” Mark 2:7

The reason the catholic church says you need to confess to a priest is to manipulate or create fear or need to stay in the church to keep you in their religion (control).

Do you read your Bible are do you just not understand what you read.Jesus gave the Apostle to forgive sin He enen breathed on them John 20:23=24

On the evening of that first day of the week, when the doors were locked, where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in their midst and said to them, “Peace be with you.”
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When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. 13 The disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord.
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14 (Jesus) said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.”
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15 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the holy Spirit.
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16 Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.” Dont you rember what happen after Judas kill him self what did the Apostle do
“And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Acts 2:21

just call onto God and ask him to come into your heart and to forgive you of your sins and you shall be saved.

Theres soo much more to God than going to church and doing good deeds and trying to live a good life. All of that is great but it won’t get you into heaven. God is not all about sitting in church every sunday and being kind to your brothers and sisters, its soo much more!

Religion is a man made thing, therefore it has its flaws and is imperfect. God is not about religion but a relationship. Spend time with him everyday as you would your wife or family and just talk with him and spend time praying and worshiping him. Read the bible (King James version) and study his words and teachings and when you ask him into your heart and give your life to him he will reveal soo much to you, unimaginable things.

Jesus Loves You!

God Bless

 

[benedictus2]

benedictus2

You are very right “The devil mimicks the voice of God…”
A very good way he does so is through religion…
“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Matthew 7:15

“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1

Which is why we have to find the true religion

 

[benedictus2]

You do not have to confess to a priest to be forgiven of sin. that is just a catholic teaching which is a lie. Jesus died on the cross for your sins and through him alone can you be forgiven, not through a priest. a priest did not die on the cross for your sins, JESUS DID.

“Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?” Mark 2:7

True but God (Jesus) GAVE THAT AUTHORITY TO HIS DISCIPLES or have you not read John 20:21-23

The reason the catholic church says you need to confess to a priest is to manipulate or create fear or need to stay in the church to keep you in their religion (control).

And on what do you base that statement?

“And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Acts 2:21

Acts 2: 47 "And every day the Lord added to their number those who were being saved. "

So those who were being saved were being added to their number. Now ask yourself, which number was that?

 

[ufamtobie]

You do not have to confess to a priest to be forgiven of sin. that is just a catholic teaching which is a lie. Jesus died on the cross for your sins and through him alone can you be forgiven, not through a priest. a priest did not die on the cross for your sins, JESUS DID.

“Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?” Mark 2:7

 

[Bill_Pick]

Followgodalone,

 

[Bill_Pick]

Weren’t you asking a question?

No I think he was just trying to help the protestants understand the Bible,they miss this verse and thats the only the 2 time Jesus breadthed on some one in the bible and He had a good reason

 

[joe370]

Where in John 20: 21-23 does Jesus use the word successors?? HIS statement here applies to the church as a whole. That’s why in the Our Father Jesus tells us to ask the Father for forgiveness but as we forgive others.

GOD is the only one that can forgive sin. Period!! We can forgive each other for sinning against one another but only GOD can pronounce forgiveness for the actuall sin itself. That’s why Christ died and that’s why we follow HIM. We are justified in GOD’s eyes by the blood of Christ.

PEACE

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Fact: we are to always forgive others just as God forgives us! If I sin against you and ask you for forgiveness, without actually addressing you, how can I possibly know if you have forgiven me? Should I just assume?

NDFAN, how does God pronounce forgiveness to you???

I do agree with you; only God can forgive sins; only GOD can pronounce forgiveness for the actual sin itself, and yes, that’s why Christ died and that’s why we follow HIM. We are justified in GODS eyes by the blood of Christ. However, Jesus still said to His hand picked sinful, fallible Apostles:

“Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.” John 20

God chose to pronounce the forgiveness of sins THROUGH His chosen ministers, in His stead, as per holy scripture! If the sinful, fallible Apostles were told to forgive/retain sins, IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, why is it such a stretch to believe that their sinful, fallible successors were to do the same, IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST? Did this spiritual gift end with the Apostles? If so, what was the point? Certainly you don’t believe that mere sinful, fallible men have any power to forgive/retain sins? It is Christ, and only Jesus Christ, Who has all the power!!! The priest or bishop is merely the instrument through which Christ works. Even if that minister is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, do you really think that that wolf can prevent Jesus from working through him?

Jesus established a church and the church is His Mystical Body to which He is the Head and Savior, as per the holy bible! To be saved by the atoning blood of Christ, is to belong to His church.

When we offend God…sin against Jesus, we sin against His established church, His mystical Body (where the precious Eucharist can be found) - to which He is the head and Savior. We separate ourselves from His established spiritual family, the church, here on earth. To get back in His good graces, and back into His family, the church, we simply ask Him for forgiveness via His chosen “ministers of reconciliation.” People inherently need to hear the words: I forgive you, before they have closure; perhaps this is why Jesus gave us the sacrament of reconciliation!

In John 20, who is “them?” Is it the entire church (established by Jesus circa AD 33) - both teacher and pupil?

Is it both the Apostles, (hand picked by Jesus) - and their fellow Jews, who were not hand picked by Jesus?

Who was Jesus addressing?

Did Jesus breath on just His chosen Apostles (His fledgling Apostolic church leaders) - and tell them: *“Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.” * - or did He breath on all of the Jews in Jerusalem, and tell all of them: *“Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained?” *

Jesus said: “But you will receive power when the holy Spirit comes upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, throughout Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”

NDFAN, Did Jesus have successors (to His Apostles) - in mind, when He said the preceding to His chosen Apostles?

Jesus said: “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.”

NDFAN, did Jesus have successors (to His Apostles) - in mind, when He said the preceding to His chosen Apostles?

 

[Bill_Pick]

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Fact: we are to always forgive others just as God forgives us! If I sin against you and ask you for forgiveness, without actually addressing you, how can I possibly know if you have forgiven me? Should I just assume?

NDFAN, how does God pronounce forgiveness to you???

I do agree with you; only God can forgive sins; only GOD can pronounce forgiveness for the actual sin itself, and yes, that’s why Christ died and that’s why we follow HIM. We are justified in GODS eyes by the blood of Christ. However, Jesus still said to His hand picked sinful, fallible Apostles:

“Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.” John 20

God chose to pronounce the forgiveness of sins THROUGH His chosen ministers, in His stead, as per holy scripture! If the sinful, fallible Apostles were told to forgive/retain sins, IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, why is it such a stretch to believe that their sinful, fallible successors were to do the same, IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST? Did this spiritual gift end with the Apostles? If so, what was the point? Certainly you don’t believe that mere sinful, fallible men have any power to forgive/retain sins? It is Christ, and only Jesus Christ, Who has all the power!!! The priest or bishop is merely the instrument through which Christ works. Even if that minister is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, do you really think that that wolf can prevent Jesus from working through him?

Jesus established a church and the church is His Mystical Body to which He is the Head and Savior, as per the holy bible! To be saved by the atoning blood of Christ, is to belong to His church.

When we offend God…sin against Jesus, we sin against His established church, His mystical Body (where the precious Eucharist can be found) - to which He is the head and Savior. We separate ourselves from His established spiritual family, the church, here on earth. To get back in His good graces, and back into His family, the church, we simply ask Him for forgiveness via His chosen “ministers of reconciliation.” People inherently need to hear the words: I forgive you, before they have closure; perhaps this is why Jesus gave us the sacrament of reconciliation!

In John 20, who is “them?” Is it the entire church (established by Jesus circa AD 33) - both teacher and pupil?

Is it both the Apostles, (hand picked by Jesus) - and their fellow Jews, who were not hand picked by Jesus?

Who was Jesus addressing?

Did Jesus breath on just His chosen Apostles (His fledgling Apostolic church leaders) - and tell them: *“Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.” * - or did He breath on all of the Jews in Jerusalem, and tell all of them: *“Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained?” *

Jesus said: “But you will receive power when the holy Spirit comes upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, throughout Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”

NDFAN, Did Jesus have successors (to His Apostles) - in mind, when He said the preceding to His chosen Apostles?

Jesus said: “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.”

NDFAN, did Jesus have successors (to His Apostles) - in mind, when He said the preceding to His chosen Apostles?

You know it is amazing what protstant well say to decline the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ they do it here in John 20-21 24 AND IN JOHN 6

 

[Ginger2]

You know it is amazing what protstant well say to decline the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ they do it here in John 20-21 24 AND IN JOHN 6

Jhn 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; [and] whose soever [sins] ye retain, they are retained.
24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus,** was not with them when Jesus came.**

Since Thomas was not with the other disciples when Jesus breathed on them and said, “Whose soever sins ye remit,…” Do you believe:

1. Thomas did not receive this gift?

Or

1. Thomas received the gift in a different way/time? Please explain using Scriptures to support your belief about Thomas.

Ginger

 

[Bill_Pick]

Jhn 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; [and] whose soever [sins] ye retain, they are retained.
24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus,** was not with them when Jesus came.**

Since Thomas was not with the other disciples when Jesus breathed on them and said, “Whose soever sins ye remit,…” Do you believe:

1. Thomas did not receive this gift?

Or

1. Thomas received the gift in a different way/time? Please explain using Scriptures to support your belief about Thomas.

Ginger

And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them. Jesus cometh, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said: Peace be to you. 27 Then he saith to Thomas: Put in thy finger hither, and see my hands; and bring hither thy hand, and put it into my side; and be not faithless, but believing. 28 Thomas answered, and said to him: My Lord, and my God. 29 Jesus saith to him: Because thou hast seen me, Thomas, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and have believed. 30 Many other signs also did Jesus in the sight of his disciples, which are not written in this book
Did you read tha last verse,I do not think Jesus did omit Thamas,do you and why

 

[Ginger2]

I do not think Jesus did omit Thamas,do you and why

No. But those verses do not say Jesus breathed on Thomas as he did the others.

The last verse says “Jesus did many other signs” In context the signs he is referring to are for the purpose of convincing the Apostles Jesus was truly raised in the flesh. It has nothing to do with distributing gifts to anyone.

My question is when did Thomas receive the gift mentioned in John 20. Please support your assertion with Scriptures - not more maybes.

 

[Bill_Pick]

No. But those verses do not say Jesus breathed on Thomas as he did the others.

The last verse says “Jesus did many other signs” In context the signs he is referring to are for the purpose of convincing the Apostles Jesus was truly raised in the flesh. It has nothing to do with distributing gifts to anyone.

My question is when did Thomas receive the gift mentioned in John 20. Please support your assertion with Scriptures - not more maybes.

What gift are you talking are you saying the other Apostles rec the gift,if you are saying NO then what diff does it make if he did not rec a gifit

 

[guanophore]

You do not have to confess to a priest to be forgiven of sin. that is just a catholic teaching

In fact, you are mistaken. It is not a Catholic Teaching. God can forgive whomever He wants, however He likes.

which is a lie.

You are new here, so I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt. You probably did not read the forum rules that say you need to respect our faith in order to have posting privileges here. What you have stated is not only erroneous, but disrespectful.

One has to wonder, if you believe this, why you are here at all!

Jesus died on the cross for your sins and through him alone can you be forgiven, not through a priest. a priest did not die on the cross for your sins, JESUS DID.

Jesus IS our High Priest, and it is through His priesthood that forgiveness is obtained.

“Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?” Mark 2:7

Follow, you have followed some teaching very ignorantly. Here you quote Pharisees and disbelievers to back up your point. You seem to have no concern that you are siding with people who call our Great High Priest a “blasphemer”. If you have no respect for Catholics, that is one thing, but it is even worse to insult the Lord you claim to follow.

The reason the catholic church says you need to confess to a priest is to manipulate or create fear or need to stay in the church to keep you in their religion (control).

This statement, thought false, indicates that it is a good thing you are here at CAF. Perhaps there is a possibility that you can get some of your wrong ideas corrected?

“And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Acts 2:21

This is what Catholics do in confession.

just call onto God and ask him to come into your heart and to forgive you of your sins and you shall be saved.

Although you appear to be sincere, you have been misled.

Theres soo much more to God than going to church and doing good deeds and trying to live a good life. All of that is great but it won’t get you into heaven. God is not all about sitting in church every sunday and being kind to your brothers and sisters, its soo much more!

Amen brother! I am glad to see that you have espoused at least this much of the Catholic faith.

Religion is a man made thing, therefore it has its flaws and is imperfect.

Really? Where does it say that in your Bible?

God is not about religion but a relationship. Spend time with him everyday as you would your wife or family and just talk with him and spend time praying and worshiping him. Read the bible (King James version) and study his words and teachings and when you ask him into your heart and give your life to him he will reveal soo much to you, unimaginable things.

Jesus Loves You!

God Bless

Where in the Bible does it say I should read the KJV of the Bible?