Protestants - divorce and remarriage

[PRmerger]

No worries! It’s always my joy to talk with you!

:hug1:

Ok… here’s what I found: From a Lutheran perspective, after a divorce the couple is living in sin even if they chose to remain celebrate. The idea being that breaking “one flesh” into two is sinful no matter how pious the behavior afterwards.

So if reconciliation is judged by the pastor as impossible, it can not longer be said that the individual is using their will to remain in this sinful state, and the sin can be forgiven and the individual free to remarry or not.

Because they’re no longer married? Or because they are no marriage existed?

If it’s the former, why would Jesus say that divorce and re-marriage is adultery?

 

[benjohnson]

Because they’re no longer married? Or because they are no marriage existed?

Probably because the marriage is broken completely and the sin has been forgiven. But this is conjecture, I’ll try to find out more, but you’ve probably found the least knowledgeable Lutheran in this subject in me.

If it’s the former, why would Jesus say that divorce and re-marriage is adultery?

Well it is adultery… but perhaps the sin of adultery can be forgiven.

 

[PRmerger]

Well it is adultery… but perhaps the sin of adultery can be forgiven.

Of course it can!

But if one isn’t repentant, it can’t.

And if one persists in engaging in adultery it’s pretty clear that one isn’t repentant, right?

 

[SteveVH]

Of course it can!

But if one isn’t repentant, it can’t.

And if one persists in engaging in adultery it’s pretty clear that one isn’t repentant, right?

People sometimes ask if Catholic priests ever refuse to absolve one of their sins. This is the only instance that I know of where absolution is refused; when one intends to continue in their sin and, as you say, is therefore unrepentent.

 

[Reuben_J]

People sometimes ask if Catholic priests ever refuse to absolve one of their sins. This is the only instance that I know of where absolution is refused; when one intends to continue in their sin and, as you say, is therefore unrepentent.

This is also one example as mentioned in the earlier post where receiving the Sacrament is ‘invalid’ even if the priest gives absolution probably if the priest is unaware that the penitent remarries or the penitent does not disclose that he remarries. Of course we can call it a bad confession because he is confessing a sin he knows he will commit again (as long as he has sex with his wife after the remarriage) and thus unrepentent.

 

[SteveVH]

This is also one example as mentioned in the earlier post where receiving the Sacrament is ‘invalid’ even if the priest gives absolution probably if the priest is unaware that the penitent remarries or the penitent does not disclose that he remarries. Of course we can call it a bad confession because he is confessing a sin he knows he will commit again (as long as he has sex with his wife after the remarriage) and thus unrepentent.

Abslolutely. One may be able to lie to a priest, but one cannot hide that lie from God.

 

[Publisher]

Not exactly, Publisher.

It is less like “not really ever happening” and more like, “no sacrament was ever confected.”

I once heard a priest talk about the Sacrament of Baptism, saying: if we could look into the soul and see what happens to it during Baptism, it would make nuclear fission look like child’s play.

Similarly, if we could look into the soul of a man and woman who receive the Sacrament of Matrimony, we would see a profound and sublime change. They become One.

However, sometimes it turns out that there was no profound and sublime change. No sacrament was confected.

That’s what an annulment discerns.

BTW: I notice an increasing animus in your posts of late. Not the Publisher I used to know and like. What has changed, friend?

Friend, I was not aware of the “increasing animus”…thank you for pointing it out in such a kind manner…I really do appreciat it…perhaps I need to step back from myself and Center in the Light…even perhaps seek out some "Weighty Friends’ and seek Clearness.

If I have offended you I apologize…this IS your “house” and I am a guest. It is my responsibility to speak with respect and kindness in your “home”.

 

[PRmerger]

Friend, I was not aware of the “increasing animus”…thank you for pointing it out in such a kind manner…I really do appreciat it…perhaps I need to step back from myself and Center in the Light…even perhaps seek out some "Weighty Friends’ and seek Clearness.

If I have offended you I apologize…this IS your “house” and I am a guest. It is my responsibility to speak with respect and kindness in your “home”.

Now, there’s the Publisher I know and love! :hug1:

 

[Daniel_Stinson]

Divorce and Remarriage An Exegetical Study A Report of the Commission on Theology and Church Relations of the Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod

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My wife came out of a divorce to marry me two years later, so I have some personal experience with this, but I already posted a few pages back #23.