Protestants, how is divorce and remarriage not adultery?

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On Divorce and Remarriage in the Event of Adultery

By John Piper of desiringgod.org

I have recently come to conclusion that the exception clause in Matthew 5:32 and 19:9 is not intended to provide a loophole for divorce and remarriage when one of the partners commits adultery.

I began, first of all, by being troubled that the absolute form of Jesus’ denunciation of divorce and remarriage in Mark 10:11, 12 (“And he said to them, ‘Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery against her; and if she divorces her husband and marries another she commits adultery against him’”) and Luke 16:18 (“Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.”) is not preserved by Matthew, if in fact his exception clause is a loophole for divorce and remarriage. I was bothered by the simple assumption that so many writers make that Matthew is simply making explicit something that would have been implicitly understood by the hearers of Jesus or the readers of Mark 10 and Luke 16. Would they really have assumed that the absolute statements included exceptions? I have very strong doubts, and therefore my inclination is to inquire whether or not in fact Matthew’s exception clause conforms to the absoluteness of Mark and Luke.

The second thing that began to disturb me was the question, Why does Matthew use the word porneia instead of the word moicheia which means adultery? Almost all commentators seem to make the simple assumption again that porneia means adultery in this context. Even though I am ready to admit that now and then porneia is used in a sense which can include adultery, the question nags at me why Matthew should not use the word for adultery, if that is in fact what he meant. Then I noticed something very interesting. The only other place besides Matthew 5:32 and 19:9 where Matthew uses the word porneia is in 15:19 where it is used alongside of moicheia. Therefore, the primary contextual evidence for Matthew’s usage is that he conceives of porneia as something different than adultery. Could this mean, then, that Matthew conceives of porneia in its normal sense of fornication rather than adultery?

The next clue in my search for an explanation came when I stumbled upon the use of porneia in John 8:41 where the Jewish leaders indirectly accuse Jesus of being born of porneia. In other words, since they don’t accept the virgin birth, they assume that Mary had committed fornication and Jesus was the result of this act. On the basis of that clue I went back to study Matthew’s record of Jesus’ birth in Matthew 1:18-20. This was extremely enlightening.

In these verses Joseph and Mary are referred to each other as husband (aner) and wife (gunaika). Yet they are described as only being betrothed to each other. This is probably owing to the fact that the words for husband and wife are simply man and woman and to the fact that betrothal was a much more significant commitment then than engagement is today. In verse 19 Joseph resolves “to divorce” Mary. The word for divorce is the same as the word in Matthew 5:32 and 19:9. But most important of all, Matthew says that Joseph was “just” in making the decision to divorce Mary, presumably on account of her porneia, fornication. Therefore, as Matthew proceeded to construct the narrative of his gospel, he finds himself in chapter 5 and then later in chapter 19, in a difficult situation. He has before him the absolute sayings of Jesus that if a man divorces his wife and marries another he commits adultery, that is, he commits a grave injustice. Nevertheless, the one divorce that Matthew has contemplated with his readers in chapter 1 has been described by him as a “just” possibility. Therefore, in order to avoid the jarring inconsistency between what he has said about Joseph and what Jesus says about divorce, Matthew inserts the exception clause in order to exonerate Joseph and show that the kind of divorce that one might pursue during a betrothal on account of fornication, is not included in what Jesus had said. This interpretation of the exception clause has several advantages: 1) it does not force Matthew to contradict the plain, absolute meaning of Mark and Luke; 2) it provides an explanation for why the word porneia is used in Matthew’s exception clause instead of moicheia; 3) it squares with Matthew’s own use of porneia for fornication in Matthew 15:19; 4) from a redaction-critical standpoint it is very astute edition which promotes the truth of Jesus’ own absolute command and the rightness of Joseph’s intention in resolving to divorce his betrothed, Mary.
 
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There is one more piece of evidence. It is usually assumed by evangelicals that when Jesus said the absolute form of his command, in Luke 18 for example, he was assuming that divorce on account of adultery was taken for granted and that a spouse had the right to remarry when divorced in this way. But there is very strong evidence in Luke 16:18 that Jesus did not assume this but in fact contemplated the possibility of an exception clause and rejected it. Luke 16:18 says, “Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.” What is the situation of the woman in the second half of this verse? It seems to me that if we take the verse as a unity (and I can see no reason not to) the situation is that a man has divorced his wife and married another. That is, he has deserted his wife and illegitimately gone off with another and formed a new marital relationship. He has committed adultery against his first wife and left her “divorced.” If the traditional view of Matthew’s exception clause is correct, then this woman is free to remarry. But Jesus says just the opposite in the last half of Luke 16:18. He says that the woman who was divorced is not a candidate for remarriage, because if a man marries her, he commits adultery. The only way to escape from this implication is to say that the two halves of the verse don’t have anything to do with each other. But against that assumption is the active voice of the word “divorce” in 18a and the passive voice of the word “divorce” in 18b. In other words, the verse pictures a man divorcing in 18a and a woman divorced in 18b and it seems to me completely unnatural to think of this woman divorced in 18a and in 18b as two different women. The force of this argument has been felt by the translators of the NIV in Matthew 5:32. They translate “anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness (sic!), causes her to commit adultery, and anyone who marries a woman so divorced commits adultery.” The fact that they insert the word “so” shows that they think of the woman in the second half of the verse as the same woman in the first half of the verse. But when they get to Luke 16:18, they simply translate, “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” Why don’t they use the word “so” in Luke 16:18? I think the reason is that as soon as they do, it will show that Jesus did consider the situation of an exception clause on the ground of adultery and rejected it. This is in fact the case.

This is what I have taught to my church and I see no warrant for anything different in I Corinthians 7.
 
I respect Piper greatly but I think he’s wrong here. But I could be wrong about that.

What I know for sure is that divorce is bad and God hates it.
 
Is adultery it? The only reason? I understand that God doesn’t like divorce. Are there any others the church speaks of…other than abadonment, non-believer and adultery?

How about abuse and addiction?
 
That alone just make someone wary of contemplating divorce.
so an abused woman should keep her mouth shut and take the beatings because contemplating divorce is a no-no? If that were my daughter,I’d pack her bags and move her the babies out…then I’d put a warrant out on the bum, hire a lawyer and process the divorce as fast as the state would allow it.

If I am off the beam on this…please explain.
 
Is adultery it? The only reason? I understand that God doesn’t like divorce. Are there any others the church speaks of…other than abadonment, non-believer and adultery?

How about abuse and addiction?
God just doesn’t like divorce, GOD HATES IT!

Mal 2:16For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.

Abuse and addiction? Unfortunately, that is the cross that person must carry.
 
God just doesn’t like divorce, GOD HATES IT!

Mal 2:16For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.

Abuse and addiction? Unfortunately, that is the cross that person must carry.
what?? :eek: until he kills her? So she and the children have to live like that?

Or she has to watch him shoot up herion in front of the kids when there is no food in the fridge?

You can’t be serious! What planet are you on?
 
so an abused woman should keep her mouth shut and take the beatings because contemplating divorce is a no-no? If that were my daughter,I’d pack her bags and move her the babies out…then I’d put a warrant out on the bum, hire a lawyer and process the divorce as fast as the state would allow it.

If I am off the beam on this…please explain.
I don’t like it anymore than you do. If the abuser has been baptized, there is nothing that can be done. The biblical rules are solid. They can separate but they can never divorce in the eyes of God.
 
what?? :eek: until he kills her? So she and the children have to live like that?

Or she has to watch him shoot up herion in front of the kids when there is no food in the fridge?

You can’t be serious! What planet are you on?
You do realize that the RCC permits separation aren’t you? They don’t expect women to remain with their children in a dangerous situation.
 
what?? :eek: until he kills her? So she and the children have to live like that?

Or she has to watch him shoot up herion in front of the kids when there is no food in the fridge?

You can’t be serious! What planet are you on?
Post 29 has answered this.
 
Of course, I would argue that drug abuse and/or physical abuse, along with a manifest unwillingness to reform and repent are evidence of effective abandonment by someone who has also demonstrated that they are in clear unbelief.

In which case divorce is a biblical option.
 
You do realize that the RCC permits separation aren’t you? They don’t expect women to remain with their children in a dangerous situation.
So they separate, and if she goes out to work, and he raids the bank account…he is entitled to the money? To spend on drugs and booze, and then find her and beat her if he so chooses? Any money that she has, he is still entitled to because he is her husband legally.

Hmmm…does the church take them in and take care of them? No, it doesn’t…most battered shelters are fed or state run.

If abuse and addiction are not grounds for an annulment…how sad. If it were my daughter, she would get a divorce, period. Makes me wonder why divorced women are not welcomed into the family of the church, annulment or otherwise. They run straight to Methodist, Presbyterian and Episcopalian, Assembly of God…or just stop going to church altogether. It’s like the church is blaming them for the abuse, by tying the abuser to them for life. Yeah, that’ll bring people into the church.😃
 
Hey, I’m with you, see my last post.
So they separate, and if she goes out to work, and he raids the bank account…he is entitled to the money? To spend on drugs and booze, and then find her and beat her if he so chooses? Any money that she has, he is still entitled to because he is her husband legally.

Hmmm…does the church take them in and take care of them? No, it doesn’t…most battered shelters are fed or state run.

If abuse and addiction are not grounds for an annulment…how sad. If it were my daughter, she would get a divorce, period. Makes me wonder why divorced women are not welcomed into the family of the church, annulment or otherwise. They run straight to Methodist, Presbyterian and Episcopalian, Assembly of God…or just stop going to church altogether. It’s like the church is blaming them for the abuse, by tying the abuser to them for life. Yeah, that’ll bring people into the church.😃
 
so an abused woman should keep her mouth shut and take the beatings because contemplating divorce is a no-no? If that were my daughter,I’d pack her bags and move her the babies out…then I’d put a warrant out on the bum, hire a lawyer and process the divorce as fast as the state would allow it.

If I am off the beam on this…please explain.
Remember that the issue is divorce (which implies a valid marriage in the eyes of the Church) and remarriage.

Remarriage if the first marriage is determined to have been invalid is not adultery. Divorce without remarriage is not adultery.
 
Julianna, I take it you are not a Catholic even though your profile says you are.
 
Julianna, I take it you are not a Catholic even though your profile says you are.
Oh my! A mortal man…knows my faith and belief system. How did you know, smoke and mirrors…incense.

I bet your next line…(as I have been called) is that I am one of those…dare I say…“feminists”. :eek:

So before you continue…I will say: I have never really known what it means to be a feminist…: I only know that I am called one whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat (or a punching bag in this case)

I am lucky in that I have a wonderful husband of 25 yrs. However, if my husband, baptised, married in the church were to ever lay a hand on me, or shoot up herion…yes, boyo…I would get a divorce. Because he would not be able to get his bummy little hands on anything that I have worked for. If I don’t divorce…he can stil beat me, and rob the household. Doubt seriously that the loving God, I believe in, would allow that to happen.

To “bear it”…is inhuman. To separate and hope that he won’t beat me anymore…is a good thing? In the case of abuse…there is no reconcilliation with me…he can reconcile with God, because in the end, it’s not my forgiveness he needs.

But I will do legally what I can to “protect” my rights and the rights of my children. In the case of documented abuse, there should be no question, that an annulment is in order.
 
my apologies…

btw, my wife is a feminist(more or less), no problem there.
 
Do you even know all the requirements for annulment? I don’t.

Especially now since the Vatican is going to put out new guidelines.

The Current Pope is more conservative and strict in this area.
 
From today’s readings:

Mark 10:
*2: And Pharisees came up and in order to test him asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?” *
*3: He answered them, “What did Moses command you?” *
*4: They said, “Moses allowed a man to write a certificate of divorce, and to put her away.” *
*5: But Jesus said to them, “For your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment. *
*6: But from the beginning of creation, God made them male and female.' * *7: For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, *
*8: and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. *
*9: What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder.” *
*10: And in the house the disciples asked him again about this matter. *
***11: And he said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery against her; ***
12: and if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery."

So how do Protestants allow divorce and remarriage? I know many (most?) do from many discussions I’ve had over the years.
There are exceptions to this (as are for most rules 😉 ).

In the case of adultery and that of the spouse being an unbeliever (which Paul speaks about). I’ll have to look up the verses though, sorry.

Stuff happens. Although I am committed to my wife and she is with me and I have no intentions of separating and divorcing, the reality is that many difficult things happen in life now.

Infidelity is enormous. Drugs can play a factor. Not taking care of one’s family can be a factor.

I think the thing about Protestants is that they (we) see this kind of expectation as legalism and the prohibition against divorce is only a guideline for behavior, not as a commandment that is binding.

Just my two cents.

Peace…
 
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