Protestants: is your denomination the one true church of Christ?

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Conor7 said:
You posted a link to a podcast titled Outside the Church There Is No Salvation. That is proselytism.
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Really? You can figure all that out from readying the 'title"…?

So, let me guess… I, a Roman Catholic, is pointing to Eastern Orthodox Postcasts to proselytize… individuals to what convert to Orthodoxy? Seriously?

Do me a favor, listen to what I pointed to before you attempt to accuse me of breaking the forum rules after being here for 6 years.
 
PathDiagnosis said:
For Protestants,

I don’t get it. If you do not believe your denomination is infallible in the way the Catholic Church (Scripture, Tradition, Magesterium, etc) is, why would you remain in it? Aren’t you basically saying to yourself “well, we might be wrong about sacarmenents/this and that but lets up stick with it anyways?”

I mean, does it bother you that your denomination admits to possibly being in error? Or maybe error doesn’t matter in faith/religious matters. The mathematics community doesn’t accept to answers for 1+1. I hope you get want I mean. I’m just trying to understand how Protestants can accept errors, or at least possible errors.
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The appeal of certainity is what draws many people to Fundamentalism, Jehovah Witnesses, and groups like the Catholic Church that do claim to not be in error. Its a popular appeal but a more broad approach might appeal to more people. I say that because I believe that a great number of rank and file Catholics probably do not believe they are the only correct people.
I see the appeal but logically it is absurd to me
IMO only:D
 
chrisb said:
Really? You can figure all that out from readying the 'title"…?

So, let me guess… I, a Roman Catholic, is pointing to Eastern Orthodox Postcasts to proselytize… individuals to what convert to Orthodoxy? Seriously?

Do be a favor, listen to what I pointed to before you attempt to accuse me of breaking the forum rules after being here for 6 years.
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Fair enough. I apologize. In fact, I immediately regretted it after I did it. It’s not normally like me to do something like that, especially publicly. I don’t know why your post just immediately made me react, but that’s my problem and not yours.

In short, I’m sorry.
 
Publisher said:
No…the organization I belong to is NOT the TRUE CHURCH of Christ…however I like to believe that most of us are members of His Church throguh our Baptism into His Body by the work and ministry of the Holy Spirit…the True Baptizer.
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Just curious. If you understand that the faith you reside in is not the true Church why not come to the true Church? Why chance something like your salvation in a church that may or may not be teaching the Truth?
 
BrianH said:
The appeal of certainity is what draws many people to Fundamentalism, Jehovah Witnesses, and groups like the Catholic Church that do claim to not be in error. Its a popular appeal but a more broad approach might appeal to more people. I say that because I believe that a great number of rank and file Catholics probably do not believe they are the only correct people.
I see the appeal but logically it is absurd to me
IMO only:D
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I’m not Catholic because of ‘claims’. I’m Catholic because all of my research confirms my belief that the practices of the Ancient Church are still alive in the Roman Catholic Church. I seriously can’t square modern Protestant claims when I compare them to the Ancient Church.

IMO only 😉
 
Conor7 said:
Fair enough. I apologize. In fact, I immediately regretted it after I did it. It’s not normally like me to do something like that, especially publicly. I don’t know why your post just immediately made me react, but that’s my problem and not yours.

In short, I’m sorry.
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Humility is a most attractive virtue friend. I’d rather be in the company of a humble man than in one who thinks he’s right all the time. 😉

Grace and Peace! BTW, it’s an interesting Postcast… and it really gets you to recognize what Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox claim ‘tradition’ actually is.
 
chrisb said:
I’m not Catholic because of ‘claims’. I’m Catholic because all of my research confirms my belief that the practices of the Ancient Church are still alive in the Roman Catholic Church. I seriously can’t square modern Protestant claims when I compare them to the Ancient Church.

IMO only 😉
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Absolutely. Did the same thing brother and came to the opposite conclusion 😃
 
BrianH said:
Absolutely. Did the same thing brother and came to the opposite conclusion 😃
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Me too! Protestant to Catholic. Now, I just have no religion/spirituality. Just hear reading about faith/religion.
 
BrianH said:
Nah you are covered either way actually. We do not think Catholics are in any kind of danger for being Catholics…
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Very kind words my friend. I hope to be awed by the compassion and mercy of Our Lord on that Last Day when we stand and reveal what paltry works we have to show for the graces given.

That said I also hope to make a better showing than I have so far… :o
 
PathDiagnosis said:
Me too! Protestant to Catholic. Now, I just have no religion/spirituality. Just hear reading about faith/religion.
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No what I am saying is that I seriously considered the Catholic claims but have stayed in my church. Sorry to be unclear
 
BrianH said:
No what I am saying is that I seriously considered the Catholic claims but have stayed in my church. Sorry to be unclear
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I have personally benefited from my life in the Catholic Church. Being able to draw on the whole 2000 years of Christian History and Life has benefited me. I can’t say that we live in a time when being Roman Catholic is particularly exciting with all of it’s failings but I continue to persevere… just like mariage.

What tradition did you hail from?
 
It seems to me that the big difference in understanding what the “true church” is comes down to whether or not you believe that church is visible, invisible or some combination of the two. I fall into the last category; I don’t believe that the Church of the Nazarene is the only “true church,” but part of the universal church that is composed of all true believers of many beautiful stripes - Catholic, Orthodox, Baptist, Pentecostal, Methodist, etc. The bottom line for me: Who do you say Jesus is? The answer of “Lord” usually leads to historic, orthodox faith. You’re my brother or sister if you know who Jesus is.

Of course, I tend toward a more “high church” mindset, so maybe I’m an oddball.
 
BrianH said:
Interesting. Where any of the divergent groups (reformers) ever under the impression that they were attempting to unite people of differing beliefs?
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The only “differing beliefs” present at the time of the Reformation were those Catholic teachings with which the Reformers disagreed - and I am under the impression that they were, in fact, trying to correct what they saw as incorrect information - that is to say, yes - they were certainly setting themselves up as prophets or arbiters of the Truth.

I certainly don’t think they were expecting to divide into four completely different belief systems, nor that those four would then, within less than a hundred years, multiply into the uncountable number of them that exist today. I think if they had even suspected that that would happen, they would have simply reconciled with Rome straight away - they certainly were not intending to create a situation where people could just make up their own form of Christianity based on what they wanted to believe was true - that’s what they thought Rome was doing - and that’s what they were protesting.
 
PathDiagnosis said:
For Protestants,

I don’t get it. If you do not believe your denomination is infallible in the way the Catholic Church (Scripture, Tradition, Magesterium, etc) is, why would you remain in it? Aren’t you basically saying to yourself “well, we might be wrong about sacarmenents/this and that but lets up stick with it anyways?”

I mean, does it bother you that your denomination admits to possibly being in error? Or maybe error doesn’t matter in faith/religious matters. The mathematics community doesn’t accept to answers for 1+1. I hope you get want I mean. I’m just trying to understand how Protestants can accept errors, or at least possible errors.
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The more I think about it, the more I am coming to believe that infallibility is impossible in anything that ultimately one believes by faith.

To get where I am coming from you first have to ask under what conditions is a statement made by a (fallible) human being about anything “unable to be incorrect”.
 
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