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SteveVH
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Nabooru, throwing out hypothetical conversations between a priest and one confessing their sins is not helpful. I have been Catholic all of my life and have confessed to many different priests. Never have I heard a priest with the callous attitude that you have portrayed here. The only sin that is not forgiven, as I have said before, is one in which the person confessing refuses to correct (i.e. living together outside of marriage and refusing to change the situation). In any case, please tell me where you have heard of these cases where someone has been denied absolution, other than from those bashing the Church in your own circles.There are cases in which priests have denied absolution, such as in cases of women who have been sterilized. Basically saying, “I don’t care whether you feel sorry or not. I’m not granting forgiveness for that sin. Period.”
Apparently you are not reading my posts very carefully. The Church does not (and cannot) condemn people to hell. To the contrary, it provides the means for them to be forgiven by God.Now is that woman going to hell because some particular priest wouldn’t absolve her?
“Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven…” Sounds pretty clear to me.It is only up to God to forgive in any case, and He is not bound to the absolution formally granted by members of the clergy.
Yes, that is the problem with Protestantism in general and the reason that Jesus’ desire for unity has been thrown by the wayside and generally ignored. There are a number of alternative explanations for those who hold themselves up as the final authority rather than accepting and submitting to the authority Christ gave to the one, true Church which he established.You accuse me of twisting Christ’s words. I could accuse you of the same - that you accept the Catholic interpretation just because the church demanded you do so. You assume that Christ spoke to all future church hierarchy, when Christ makes no mention of priests or bishops. There are a number of alternative explanations.
Yes, you have made that quite clear. Why are you here? To save all of us poor misled people from the evils of the Catholic Church? Your words are highly offensive and whether you know it or not you are speaking about the Church that Christ himself founded.I personally feel that - and I say this honestly - that the church interprets the verses in that way, making what applied to the apostles apply to all future church leaders, no matter how corrupt or far separated, in order to make God’s authority their own.
Really? Did you ever read in the scritpures where the Apostles healed people and drove out demons? Do you think they did that by their own power?t simply does not make sense that God would give His Divine Power to humans.
If you know as much about the Orthodox as you do the Catholic Church I would take a little time and study up before making such comments. The Orthodox received their authority from the same words of Christ as did the Catholic Church.The Orthodox do not see confession in such a way, and they are not condemned by the RCC for it. Nor do they see Peter as having particular successors. I am inclined towards their view.