Protestants: what do you think about the war against Iraq?

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Look, the point that you and the other fellow was trying to make is that Greenspan’s testimony is proof positive that the US went to war to secure oil. My point is that Greenspan was not in the position to know, one way or the other, more about the situation that I or you know about the reasons why Bush favored war with Iraq. You have no idea what “relevance” means.
Of course I understand relveance. Greenspan was a major economic personality - he’s commenting on economic motives for the war.

Your attempt to remove him from the ‘decision process’ doesn’t mean he’s not a qualified commentator at all.
 
Of course I understand relveance. Greenspan was a major economic personality - he’s commenting on economic motives for the war.

Your attempt to remove him from the ‘decision process’ doesn’t mean he’s not a qualified commentator at all.
Nor is Greenspan in the position to know for sure whether the Bush administration’s motivations were primarily economic or not since…as stated ad nauseum, he was not in a position to know.
 
Nor is Greenspan in the position to know for sure whether the Bush administration’s motivations were primarily economic or not since…as stated ad nauseum, he was not in a position to know.
That’s to assume that no one not in government may know what government knows
 
Then you might as well live in North Korea and accept what the government tells you.
Nope. Just because you can’t know everything important that happens within the government does not mean that the government is oppressive. Do you know everything that is going on in the Australian cabinet? Should you? Of course not. A completely transparent government is an ineffective government.
 
Nope. Just because you can’t know everything important that happens within the government does not mean that the government is oppressive. Do you know everything that is going on in the Australian cabinet? Should you? Of course not. A completely transparent government is an ineffective government.
Well you assume that Greenspan who’s an econonomics giant of that administration knows nothing about the administration - as far as this decision.

I prefer to accept his criticism - it’s in line with other evidence posted here (such as it’s not about terrorism)

You believe this is some kind of Appeal to Authority, because it is, because it is, because it is.
 
Well you assume that Greenspan who’s an econonomics giant of that administration knows nothing about the administration - as far as this decision.
Again, you misunderstand the role of the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve and the Federal Reserve’s Chairman are NOT members or part of the President’s administration.
 
Again, you misunderstand the role of the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve and the Federal Reserve’s Chairman are NOT members or part of the President’s administration.
But they do work closely with the administration.
 
Again, you misunderstand the role of the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve and the Federal Reserve’s Chairman are NOT members or part of the President’s administration.
I don’t at all. I understand he’s separate. What you seem to believe, based only on your say so is that he wouldn’t have a clue what’s going on in the Administration because he’s formally not part of it.

Whilst there in his office he mustn’t have had any contact with anyone in government. He mustn’t have looked at any economic papers of the government, nor even switched on the tv to see what was going on - with members of government saying what they thought, etc.

That’s how weirdly constructed your ideas about the “Isolation of Greenspan” must be
 
But they do work closely with the administration.
Exactly. They deal with members of government all the time.

He might still be wrong - but that’s not the counter here, it’s that he wouldn’t have a clue… which is a nonsense.

Formally our Governor-General is apart from the government, but he’s got staff who brief him all the time, and he has contacts. For me to argue that, because he’s constitutionally apart from govrnment he’s not fit to form an informed opinion would simply be to pretend he’s some kind of governmental hermit.

rr1213 is creating in effect a false dichotomy; separating Greenspan from the ebb and flow of government business.

What about reporters? They’re not in government. By rr1213 's idea, they’re all a bunch of clueless people, every one of them
 
rr1213 is creating in effect a false dichotomy; separating Greenspan from the ebb and flow of government business.
Alan Greenspan knew what was going on, and he knew that the Iraq war was all about oil. Take a look at Iraq’s oil reserves and it is obvious that this was a reason for the war.
 
I don’t at all. I understand he’s separate. What you seem to believe, based only on your say so is that he wouldn’t have a clue what’s going on in the Administration because he’s formally not part of it.

Whilst there in his office he mustn’t have had any contact with anyone in government. He mustn’t have looked at any economic papers of the government, nor even switched on the tv to see what was going on - with members of government saying what they thought, etc.

That’s how weirdly constructed your ideas about the “Isolation of Greenspan” must be
If he’s getting his info from the tube he doesn’t know anything more than you or I do…
 
Alan Greenspan knew what was going on, and he knew that the Iraq war was all about oil. Take a look at Iraq’s oil reserves and it is obvious that this was a reason for the war.
Ah, if only the world was so simple. Go ahead darling and believe what you want to believe.
 
What about reporters? They’re not in government. By rr1213 's idea, they’re all a bunch of clueless people, every one of them
Yep, pretty much. I’ve seen it plenty of times…items I’ve worked on personally–so I know what is truly happening–and the reporters get it all wrong. Quite common.
 
Ah, if only the world was so simple. Go ahead darling and believe what you want to believe.
You beat me to it. That’s what I was going to say to you (sans the darling bit). You’ve offered only your suppose-so that it must be true.
 
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