First, we acknowledge that we are all sinners in need of God’s forgiveness.
I am trying to understand, the Catholic Church has explained LOTS of scripture, but you seem to be hung up on the fact that it hasn’t been done infallibly?
I would concur with what you say here.
Does not the church claim to be the only ones to have the authority to interpret the scriptures infallibly? If this is so, then it would follow that to have such authority they would have interpreted the scriptures.
Protestant church don’t claim to possess infallible authority to interpret the scriptures although they do interpret.You/your church has infallibly defined every scripture in the bible
You don’t know that, ja4. We have a small distillation of what Paul taught in the NT. This thinking you have that if it is not written in your NT it did not happen is just not accurate. Besides that, when these parts of the NT were written, Mary was still alive, so how would he know if Jesus came for her or not?!
Its all we have. Anything else is mere specualtions and its not wise to build doctrines on speculations.
I have yet to see you show otherwise than just general statements. You need facts to show that Paul actually did believe in the marian doctrines and those facts don’t exist. Thats just the way it is.
How do you know she was still alive when the NT was written? Is it not true that your church admits it does not when she died or where?
You already do a lot of reading? Then you must know the Gospel is the Good News! It is found in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Paul is not a Gospel writer. He spread the Good News, along with the 12 Apostles. There are other writers in the New Testament as well: James, Peter, John.
Thank you, and may God bless you
The contentS of the GospelS are found in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, so says the Catholic Christian Church.What is the content of the gospel in the catholic church? What must a catholic believe to be saved?
How do you know that the canon of the Bible is not speculation, since it does not contain it’s own table of contents?
Peace be with you, my brother. Now that you know this, is there any further need for you to be on the forum?
Paul’s letter to the Galatians was one of the earliest books. It was also very focused on particular subjects. Clearly Paul never expected to run into someone with your intractible attitude toward apostolic teaching, or he would have written more books!
Because they had some criteria they used.
More likely that it was unknown.
What must you do specifically to be saved?The contentS of the GospelS are found in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, so says the Catholic Christian Church.
What must I DO to be saved? JESUS SAVES.
Scripture is not the final authority then. If Scripture is not the final authority, then pretty much anything goes.
Purgatory is a word uses to encompass the explanation of how we are cleansed with Christ’s saving blood. Do you not believe that you will be cleansed with His blood and made holy before stepping into His presence? Do you think you will sin in heaven? Do you sin now? And what happens to make it possible so not only you won’t sin, but you won’t even be drawn to sin? We believe it is Christ’s blood cleansing us, this process has been called purgatory by the Church. We believe that we are not just declared righteous by His sacrificial blood but actually made completely righteous by His blood.
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Our salvation will be complete. One thing is that we will have new bodies that will no longer want to sin. We will be competely new in Christ.
How can fire cleanse a soul? Not even the I Corinthians 3 passage claims this.
I disagree with this. It may claim to do so but when we look at the specifics of the marian doctrines and compare them with scripture we don’t see this.
I don’t see how you are making this connection with Mary.
I’m trying to understand what the essentials are of the gospel message is in the catholic church. What are the components that must be believed to be saved in the catholic church?
I don’t mean to pry into this but I feel compelled to. I do not agree with any of this. First of all, none of what you said here is included or essential in God’s plan of salvation and second of all, it is not Biblical. You must put scripture first!
What was the final authority at the Council of Jerusalem?
Ja4 & Brewmax…Where is this list of “essentials” and “non-essentials” that you two keep referring to? Since you both go by the Bible alone, where are you getting this list of “essentials” and “non-essentials”, this list must be in there somewhere. Who determines this list?
and what is the bible but a collection of written traditions. so how can you say that protestants are not following this advise?
I never said that I go by the Bible alone. I believe that the Bible is the top authority. Other authorities must square with the Bible. The essentials are laid out in Scripture. Nothing else needs to be added. Marian doctrine, further sin cleansing etc. Paul didn’t teach any of this.