Protestants, who have been around awhile, question about the Virgin Mary

[ufamtobie]

I’ve learned a lot here, mainly that the Catholic Church is not for me. I believe that the RCC is a Christian Church, with many, many wonderful, God fearing, God loving people, many of whom will be in heaven with God. however, it is my opinion that the RCC places more emphasis on man made traditions in favor of Sacred Scripture. Mary, while I have said repeatedly is blessed, was a sinner, saved by her Son’s death and resurrection . This is evident by Sacred Scripture in that the Bible says only one person, Jesus, was without sin.(2 Cor.5:21) Other traditions, such as praying to saints, Purgatory are also not backed 100% by Sacred Scripture and no amount of cherry picking certain verses will make it so. I thought about quitting this board, but I find that I like coming here, because if nothing else, it challenges me and makes me think about my own faith, and how blessed I am to be where I am.

Batman,

Fist of all you are not here on your own accord, Jesus Christ has you here to learn the Truth about the Catholic Church which is the Church founded on Rock, whether you choose to believe it or not, now, that is of your own accord.

Yes, Jesus had no sin in Him! But you forget neither did Adam Or Eve they also did not have sin, until both Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit. Jesus is the new Adam, who never knew sin, therefore Mary is the new Eve, who never knew original or personal sin. As Eve was created without sin so was Virgin Mary. Or do you think God could only create one woman Eve without original sin, if you think this you are wrong, God can do all things especially for Mary who is Full of Grace who carried the Son of God. Amen Mary Herself said: “The Lord has done Great Things for me”

As for the New Testament Scripture, thank the Early Church Fathers who combined them together and who were Catholic until the day they died, if it weren’t for they you won’t have your king james version… Jesus Left His Church to guide us and the Church to interpret Scripture for us by the Holy Spirit this is done.

Batman, if blessed is where you are, why are you here, Why do you need to be challenged?

To be truly blessed is to be where or I should say to be a member of the only Church Christ Founded on Rock, over 2000 years ago… Now that is being Blessed.

Ufam Tobie

 

[Cat_Herder]

Some of the language of the prayers devoted to Mary (for example those of Alphonsus Liguori) in my mind exceeds the veneration that is proper to a Created being,

Somebody tell Joshua.

[BIBLEDRB]Joshua 5:12-15[/BIBLEDRB]

One of the stumbling blocks (and not the only one) that are between me and any eventual conversion to Roman Catholicism, would be a requirement to believe these late dogmas on the pain of my salvation. Since I do not, I would only add perjury to my already long list of sins.

“Late” dogmas?

[BIBLEDRB]Revelation 6:9-11[/BIBLEDRB]

Seriously… if those who have fallen asleep in Christ are not alive, then what’s the point of Christianity?

 

[Cat_Herder]

however, it is my opinion that the RCC places more emphasis on man made traditions

“Man made traditions?”

[BIBLEDRB]1 Timothy 2:3-4[/BIBLEDRB]

If all that existed until the Protestant Reformation in the 1500s was “man made traditions” then how could anyone come to knowledge of the truth and be saved?

 

[Siamus]

This is for the Protestants who never knew much about our faith, and the true teaching’s of what our faith teaches on the Blessed Mother.

Has you changed your opinion any from the first time you started on this site, until now your feeling’s about her.

Is your understanding of what we really teach and what you thought we taught alot different?

My opinion has not changed one bit to be honest.

I know what I was taught in the past, and also what I see on this site and from other sources these days. I always saw Mary as extremely blessed, but I also see what many churches seem to be glancing over.

“Blessed and highly favored,” was talking to many people at one time…"

youtube.com/watch?v=2lzqak49CaQ

 

[TwinMommy]

My view of Our Blessed Mother has changed totally.

My view(not an educated view) was that Catholics worshiped her, that she was the center of the Church.

I am so glad that the Lord opened my eyes. I have read a lot, watching a lot of videos and prayed about what she truly means, what she is about and always has been.

When I saw that she is prayed to, to intercede for us, I was happily surprised.
As I learn about her, each part pulls it all together. I had no clue that she was sinless. That is so amazing!!! How beautiful it is to have a Holy Mother, a Queen, to be able to go to the Mother of God.

Sometimes it is hard to figure out what to pray and how to pray when things get crazy. I know I can ask her for prayer. It is heartwarming, comforting, and very special.

Dianna

 

[Siamus]

youtube.com/watch?v=1AMhezp-75E

It’s Gon Be Nice…

 

[inChristAlone33]

My views have not changed.

I trust that if Mary was sinless, the Bible would say so. I trust that if Mary was to be adored and prayed to, the Bible would say so.

Furthermore, The assumption of Mary was rejected by the early church by Pope Gelasius in 495 and considered it heresy. It was only adopted in 1950, with no Biblical reference and should be considered heresy by all catholics. (The immaculate conception was also considered heresy for centuries)

I am in the middle of reading a story of a nun who left the catholic faith and she explained, in detail, her devotion and meditation on Mary. But, she did not see it as worship. Looking back, she is able to see clearly. Are we are not vulnerable to this happening to us? Not able to see something as it truly is?

I am continuing to pray that God leads us all into His Truth!

 

[Reuben_J]

My views have not changed.

I trust that if Mary was sinless, the Bible would say so. I trust that if Mary was to be adored and prayed to, the Bible would say so.

Furthermore, The assumption of Mary was rejected by the early church by Pope Gelasius in 495 and considered it heresy. It was only adopted in 1950, with no Biblical reference and should be considered heresy by all catholics. (The immaculate conception was also considered heresy for centuries)

I am in the middle of reading a story of a nun who left the catholic faith and she explained, in detail, her devotion and meditation on Mary. But, she did not see it as worship. Looking back, she is able to see clearly. Are we are not vulnerable to this happening to us? Not able to see something as it truly is?

I am continuing to pray that God leads us all into His Truth!

If one is truly deep in Jesus, one will know Mary because everything of her points to Jesus.

May God bless you in your journey of searching the truth.

 

[TwinMommy]

Through the mysteries of the Rosary I am getting closer to Jesus than I ever have been.

 

[Miriam1947]

Through the mysteries of the Rosary I am getting closer to Jesus than I ever have been.

Do you get EWTN on your tv? I learned the Rosary from Mother Angelica. She’s on every night at 6:30 pm.

(Well repeats, since she had a stroke and the series was filmed in 2001, I believe.)

 

[TwinMommy]

Do you get EWTN on your tv? I learned the Rosary from Mother Angelica. She’s on every night at 6:30 pm.

(Well repeats, since she had a stroke and the series was filmed in 2001, I believe.)

I have been able to do that a few times. I try to do it at 9:30 when it is on. She is so awesome. I have watched a number of her shows on YouTube.

 

[Buff_Orpington]

This is for the Protestants who never knew much about our faith, and the true teaching’s of what our faith teaches on the Blessed Mother.

Kind of an odd thing to say. Why just ask for the opinions of the ignorant? Is it so that you can more easily refute them?

Why not ask for former Catholics, educated by the Catholic Church, and who have studied the issues, and are Protestants.

If you were a boxer, would you only choose sparring partners who were weaker than you so you could easily beat them and show off for the other boxers? Or would you pick a good, strong boxer, who would challenge you and expose your weaknesses in order for you to correct them?

I know that, as a musician, I enjoy playing with musicians who are better than I am because that’s how I Iearn and grow stronger.

Or maybe that isn’t your goal.

 

[Aaron_Creagh]

 2. John 2:4. Jesus seems dismissive of Mary. "Woman, why do you involve me?" etc.

QUOTE]

In the King James Version that verse say this…

"John 2:4

Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come."

Why did he refer to Mary as “woman?”

I have an opinion about that but I’m sure many would jump all over me for my opinion.

Okay I’ll try to say it quickly.

Mary is one of Jesus’ followers, Jesus is technically her daddy even though he is also her son.

 

[rinnie]

Roy5;9175342:

 2. John 2:4. Jesus seems dismissive of Mary. "Woman, why do you involve me?" etc.

QUOTE]

In the King James Version that verse say this…

"John 2:4

Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come."

Why did he refer to Mary as “woman?”

I have an opinion about that but I’m sure many would jump all over me for my opinion.

Okay I’ll try to say it quickly.

Mary is one of Jesus’ followers, Jesus is technically her daddy even though he is also her son.

Bet I know what you are thinking! Bet you know your Hebrew!

Na, you have showed you do not know Hebrew or you would not have had an opinion on why Jesus addressed his Mother as woman, you could state a fact.

Which the fact is this, In hebrew when a woman is addressed as Woman, it would be addressed to a queen or a woman of high ranking in those days. But I bet you knew that huh!

 

[rinnie]

Roy5;9175342:

 2. John 2:4. Jesus seems dismissive of Mary. "Woman, why do you involve me?" etc.

QUOTE]

In the King James Version that verse say this…

"John 2:4

Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come."

Why did he refer to Mary as “woman?”

I have an opinion about that but I’m sure many would jump all over me for my opinion.

Okay I’ll try to say it quickly.

Mary is one of Jesus’ followers, Jesus is technically her daddy even though he is also her son.

You mean the same way Jesus is God, and also the Son of God! Kind of how he is our Father and the Son of God also. Or is your problem possibly with the Trinity? How God is 3 persons in one God. Truly One God, the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit, All equal? Not sure where you are trying to go with saying that about God being the son and daddy, kind of sounds disrespectful to our Lord, but maybe its just me.

And yes you are right she is not only a Follower of God she is quite a follower, would you not agree?

Quite an example for any woman do you not think. A woman who trusted God with her entire body and soul until the day she was reunited with God. A woman who never questioned God but said do to me as you will.

A woman who stood at the foot of the cross and watched her Son be beat, spit on and mocked and crucified on a Cross. Yet still showed not one doubt in her faith in God the Almighty.

Who never raised her voice or fist to anyone.

 

[DeSanto]

Roy5;9175342:

 2. John 2:4. Jesus seems dismissive of Mary. "Woman, why do you involve me?"

Why did he refer to Mary as “woman?”

I have an opinion about that but I’m sure many would jump all over me for my opinion.

Mary is one of Jesus’ followers, Jesus is technically her daddy even though he is also her son.

I don’t see a reason to “jump all over you”… I see this as an opportunity to introduce something that you may have never considered.

If you are truly interested, I suggest you read this link and come back to ask any questions you may have.

maryimmaculate.tripod.com/marian1.html

 

[MartinJordan]

If Jesus was under his parents authority (recall when they went looking for him and after Jesus spoke to them) and Jesus in his last breath called to her that he was her son…there is no way Jesus ever disrespected his mother.

MJ

 

[Kakieanne]

I can’t say that my opinion has changed since I joined this forum. It had actually changed before I joined and was the main reason that I did join.

A true follower of Jesus Christ should show fruit in his or her life. And two of the people who have showed the most fruit in my lifetime were Pope John Paul II and Mother Teresa. God’s light shone through them and I wanted what they had. They were both very devoted to Our Lady. Because I had no one to teach me, I prayed that The Lord would show me the truth about His Mother. It took a few years, during which I said a lot of prayers and read a lot of books, but now I can say I believe everything your Church teaches about the Virgin Mary.

 

[DeSanto]

I can’t say that my opinion has changed since I joined this forum. It had actually changed before I joined and was the main reason that I did join.

A true follower of Jesus Christ should show fruit in his or her life. And two of the people who have showed the most fruit in my lifetime were Pope John Paul II and Mother Teresa. God’s light shone through them and I wanted what they had. They were both very devoted to Our Lady. Because I had no one to teach me, I prayed that The Lord would show me the truth about His Mother. It took a few years, during which I said a lot of prayers and read a lot of books, but now I can say I believe everything your Church teaches about the Virgin Mary.

What a nice comment and a beautiful witness. What, if I may ask, holds you back from entering the church?