Protocol if wasp in chalice

[Wm777]

What to do if a wasp got into the chalice?

I’d say, “it depends”.

What denomination was he?

 

[dochawk]

I meant for use to remove the wildlife from the cup. I see “spoon-communion” as dangerous. Too many chances of spilling.
Im guessing you meant “intinct”?

No, I mean that the priest uses a small spoon from which he drops the Eucharist into the communicant’s upward and raise mouth (for infants, just the Blood). We’ve been doing it this way since the fourth century or so . . .

Here’s a fairly typical spoon, alongside a lance (used to cut the loaf)



Most byzantines consecrate a rather small bit of bread (the commemorative particles) which are added to the Cup, and then other particles, give or take the size of small croutons, are added. (for Presanctified liturgy, this is revered, and reserved host is added to the wine). Unlike the rest, Ruthenian usage is to consecrate all the bread to be used.

The Melchites started intincting strips from the loaf in the Cup a couple/few centuries ago–and as far as I can tell, today not even they are clear on why the change was made . . .

 

[Agnus-Dei]

That’s where I felt you meant intinct, not instinct. Isn’t auto-correct fun?

Melchites, who instinct a strip of non-consecrated bread

I did read about the lance for the bread, the “lamb” portion cut from it, and a few other parts. (Symbols on the loaf too). Interesting stuff.
(Ah well, my post quote didn’t work out. You get the idea.)
Dominus vobiscum

 

[dochawk]

Oh, missed my auto-correct . . . I thought you were doubting the spoon

 

[Cirdan_XII]

We are not to give medical advice on CAF so I won’t comment further.
I will say if any stinging or biting creature lands in a drink or in food, even if fished out, the potential is there for its arsenal to be left behind and that can pose a great health risk.

Grain gets contaminated by numerous types of critters while it is growing, during harvest, storage and processing. The odds are that if you take an average bread roll that it strictly isn’t even vegetarian food as there will be microscopic traces of various animal in it. And not just wasps and spiders but mice and things.

So there is actually far more likely to be animal meat in your communion bread than in your communion wine.

Just saying.

 

[OurLadyofSorrows]

Grain gets contaminated by numerous types of critters while it is growing, during harvest, storage and processing. The odds are that if you take an average bread roll that it strictly isn’t even vegetarian food as there will be microscopic traces of various animal in it. And not just wasps and spiders but mice and things.

So there is actually far more likely to be animal meat in your communion bread than in your communion wine.

Just saying.

These primary ingredients are processed or fermented into the baked or finished good. Manufacturers are very cautious with grain and wine so as not to produce a contaminated product.

This thread really is not about vegetarian food though. It is more about the acute medical risks of stinging insects in beverages.

 

[nafatyuk]

At first, I read the title as “White Anglo-Saxon Protestant in chalice” and was super confused for a second.

 

[Agnus-Dei]

I would like to see the chalice capable of containment.
And for dochawk, a giant spoon to scoop that one out.
Dominus vobiscum

 

[dochawk]

Try some of the big Russian Orthodox services.

They take “one cup” rather seriously, and for huge services use “cups” with a capacity in gallons. And a truly massive bread. As a priest on another forum quipped when a picture of one was posted, “what would you use for a lance–a lance?” (the lance is the extremely sharp tool used for cutting the bread, and is capable of removing a finger–as my priest discovered! [it was reattached] {for some reason, we now use pre-cut bread . . .} )

 

[Agnus-Dei]

Don’t suppose they do the elevation with a forklift.
(Hope the priest didn’t bleed on anything important.)
Dominus vobiscum

 

[dochawk]

I suspect that a couple of priests are involved for the ones that I’ve seen . . . or perhaps they elevate one of the normal-sized cups that it is ladeled into for distribution . . . .

He fully recovered, and I expect that the cloth got cleaned successfully. Unfortunately, his right shoulder hasn’t recovered from another injury, and he needs to borrow one of our hands to wave the Aër (a cloth) over the chalice during the Creed (well, it ends up being in front of, not over, but . . . )