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tweetymom
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Jesus never changes.
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tweetymom
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Amen
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tweetymom
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No one is asking you to, Tweety, although it is clear that your brain definitely needs some washing.
Persons who claim to be Catholic have an obligation to understand why the Church teaches what she does, and if they do not agree, assent that the Church is right, and seek by prayer, obedience, and study to be conformed to Christ’s image as manifested through the Church. At the very least, those having difficulty accepting the Teachings are to avoid public dissent, such as the kind you have demonstrated here. Public dissention by a person claiming to be Catholic is a grave insult.
Most of us have had to accept one or more elements that we just don’t understand (yet). Peter and the 'Apostles did not understand what Jesus meant when He said “my flesh is true food” either, but rather than walk away from Him, Peter said “to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life”. We trust that the Word committed to the Church by Christ are the Words of Life, and we will not find them anywhere else.
Tweety, Jesus is not going to give any one individual a special revelation that contradicts what He has already revealed to the Church. I believe you are sincere in your desire to discern the Truth, but the promise He made to lead into all Truth was given to the Church. Individuals can only benefit from it to the extent that they are in unity with the One Body.
These type of comments are insulting. They imply that we do not study, and struggle, and examine all that we are told. It comes across really condescending. Especially from someone who does not appear to have ever studied the reasons behind the doctrines with which she disagrees.
Do you really think it is a good representation of Jesus for you to present yourself as someone you are not? How does this glorify Him? How does insulting all the Catholics here by giving a bad example show love of your neighbors?
If you wish to pretend to be Catholic in your parish, that is between you and your pastor (and God, to whom you will answer for your duplicity). When you do it here on CAF, you malign the Church in public. You expose yourself to all to be held accountable for misreprenting yourself as well as the Church.
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In that case, it is inappropriate for you to claim to be Catholic.**
Thank you and my brain has been washed in the blood of Jesus.
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tweetymom
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And you know this because?
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PRmerger
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Picture the original Ark of the Covenant. Can you imagine, after the priests took out the Scrolls and the Manna and Aaron’s rod, the Israelites putting *anything *else in it?
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tweetymom
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Never will, never happen.Catholics aren’t born again?Actually, keep praying Des. She has made progress. She first added “born again” to Catholic, which clarifies that she has a non-Catholic theology.
Next, she acknowledged that Catholics here consider her to be Protesant. We can hope and pray that she will continue on this path toward integrity, and that the word “Catholic” will one day be removed from her affiliaton.
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FidesSpesCarita
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Your phrase just made me laugh. And it is quite interesting to me that you seem to believe that Mary’s only purpose was to carry Christ then she was done, and that her choice, her Fiat, was something… (inevitable?) and not worthy of praise.
If he knew all along who he would choose, then why is it so hard to accept that maybe, just maybe God could set something aside as sacred and Holy? Check out my last post for a discussion on that.
Amen. I pray that you would either return to the faith you claim, or accept the fact that by your views you have rejected it.
See, now this is what makes me finally realize the futility of arguing with fatuity. It gets you nowhere and only ends with frustration. If someone chooses to persist in willful ignorance they will do so, regardless of the truth laid out before them. (here is where Doki and Tweety cut my post and insert AMEN). I cannot begin to explain how comical it is to me to hear the SAME arguments time and time again, without change, in repetition ad nauseum despite having been countered numerous times by numerous people far wiser than me. And still, even after the same old tired worn-out arguments, with the same tired and worn-out points being dragged out, it comes back to a stubborn and willful ignorance and pride. That “I know that I am right, so everyone else is wrong and I will find a way to have the Bible say what fits my world view” (and doki, I know that you will deny this, but that IS what you do). Or in the case of tweety “I am a Catholic who not only goes down the cafeteria line choosing what I would like and not like, but what I do not like I will shout from the rooftops that all Catholics should not eat of that bit in the cafeteria”. Both stances are wrong.
When you choose to ignore the pile of evidence that is presented you become more than my patience can bear. God bless PR and Guano for having the patience and force of will to keep hashing out the same points over and again, but I am not sure that I can do this any more.
Man, Im too young to be this tired…
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tweetymom
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And you are very comical your self sir or madam. You can complain about me all you care too. But Are Catholics born again. God Bless you on your journey with Christ and may His light shine on you.
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FidesSpesCarita
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Please take this as the joke for which it was intended, but the only thing that comes to mind is a pomeranian I saw this weekend that had a bone… Even God would have had a hard time getting him to drop that bone…
And the answer is yes. We are born again of Water and the Holy Spirit. The point that we are all getting at with you is that claiming Catholicism does not make you Catholic. That is why we are the only Christian faith with any formal Catechesis and with any formal Confirmation into the faith. Even after our rebirth, we are still loyal to the Word of God, Jesus, and his greatest servant on earth, the Pope, who sits in the chair of Peter. Your refusal to submit proves your lack of faith. Your lack of faith in the Church you claim makes you not a Catholic. full stop. end of story.
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tweetymom
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End of story cool. Right and many here have the same old bone in their mouths.
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FidesSpesCarita
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I resent that!@!!!
It is a VERY different bone!!!
but the exact same attitude
Edit: And I can tell you from experience that Mine tastes better anyhow
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Jars_of_Clay_1
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Really? Well shut my mouth! I wish I had God’s phone number like you so he could tell ME stuff like that! What do you use, Skype or do you instant message each other? (If we were face to face you’d see the wink in my eye and the smile on my face - no harm intended.)
If God wanted Mary to remain a virgin in life, why choose a husband for her at all? Folks living as husband and wife do not give the appearance to the public that they live celibate lives. If that were the case, your priests could marry women and just tell us they live celibate lives.
I’m not attacking your priests. I pray that God bless and sustain those who follow their vows and may God have mercy and restoration for those who didn’t and wanted to, or for those who have left the priesthood because they couldn’t sustain their vows, may God bless them with a new life.
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Leslie_Polley
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So you are saying that the Bible is not the inspired word of God…I am taking that from your sentence about Tweetymom…so you are saying she is blindly following the Bible? She is blindly following someone elses authority.? well you must, you said it…WOW…Exactly.
The Koran claims it’s inspired.
And, I believe, so does the Book of Mormon.
The only reason Tweety believes that the Bible is inspired, is because she’s “blindly” following someone else’s authority!
That is, unless she’s now going to read the Gospel of Thomas and claim, by her own authority, that it’s inspired.
Well the Bible IS the inspired Word of God, and the person we blindly follow is Christ by His authority…
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tweetymom
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Thank you and I do follow Christ’s authority the Bible.
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Leslie_Polley
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you go girl!
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izoid
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Do you find joy in being a trouble maker? You misrepresent this entire post and you know it. I hope you are aware that it is sinful to be dishonest.
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Let me ask you; is it more sacraficial to remain celibate inside of marriage or outside? Which is the more difficult path?Really? Well shut my mouth! I wish I had God’s phone number like you so he could tell ME stuff like that! What do you use, Skype or do you instant message each other? (If we were face to face you’d see the wink in my eye and the smile on my face - no harm intended.)
If God wanted Mary to remain a virgin in life, why choose a husband for her at all? Folks living as husband and wife do not give the appearance to the public that they live celibate lives. If that were the case, your priests could marry women and just tell us they live celibate lives.
I’m not attacking your priests. I pray that God bless and sustain those who follow their vows and may God have mercy and restoration for those who didn’t and wanted to, or for those who have left the priesthood because they couldn’t sustain their vows, may God bless them with a new life.
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The above is why a lot of folks espouse there personal opinions with such assurdness.;l Our seperated brethern rely on their and whoever{Preacher etc.} trust at the moment. This becomes so obvious, with so many divisions in christianity that have no central authority.
And:This is human nature at its worst {ego,pride,etc} this we all are guilty of some more then others. I included !
Indifferentism= 1.Neutral 2.unconcerned 3.Of no importance. 3.average.
The message of what we read in scripture is the only authority, is not what Jesus commanded or He Himsef preached, as a Man, he gave apostles the authority to designate teachers, not just any teacher but teachers that are sent.>> Apostolic succession.
God Bless
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Again my 2cents.
Absolutely ! Jesus did not teach this way!
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The above is why a lot of folks espouse there personal opinions with such assurdness.;l Our seperated brethern rely on their and whoever{Preacher etc.} trust at the moment. This becomes so obvious, with so many divisions in christianity that have no central authority.
And:This is human nature at its worst {ego,pride,etc} this we all are guilty of some more then others. I included !
Indifferentism= 1.Neutral 2.unconcerned 3.Of no importance. 3.average.
The message of what we read in scripture is the only authority, is not what Jesus commanded or He Himsef preached, as a Man, he gave apostles the authority to designate teachers, not just any teacher but teachers that are sent.>> Apostolic succession.
God Bless
onenow1
Again my 2cents.
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Dokimas
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Sorry but I don’t understand what this has to do with the price of tea in China.
At what point does the Scriptures tell us the priests took the tablets, bowl of Manna and Aaron’s rod that budded out of Ark?
A wonderful book (which may not be still in print) is the book by Dr M. R. DeHaan entitles ‘The Tabernacle’. He shows that each part of the Tabernacle is a forshadowing of something about Jesus including the ark.
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Leslie_Polley
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Amen
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