Prove to me Trinity is real.

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For Protestants:

Since you believe in Sola Scriptura, do you believe in the Holy Trinity? If you believe in the Trinity, then prove to me where the word in the Bible states it. Your only resources is the Bible.

For Catholic:

You can use both Bible, and the any document that support the belief in the Holy Trinity.
 
I am also a Catholic, but a convert. Here are some scripture verses that support the “Trinity”. This is something both Catholics and Protestants believe in. The*** Spirit of God*** that is being mentioned is the same Holy Spirit in the Trinity. It is the same Holy Spirit we remember when we Cross our selves in the "Name of …"

Verses:

Gen. 1:1-3, 26
Is. 40:13 & 48:16
Judges 13: 8-23
Prov. 8:22-31
Is. 6:3
Numbers 6:24-27
Matthew 3:16, 17
John 14:26 & 15:26 & 28:19
2 Cor. 13:14
Gal. 4:4-6

I would also suggest that if you have the Catechism of the Catholic Church handy that you go to the Subject Index in the back and look up all the references to the Trinity.

Hope this helps. God Bless You.
 
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my4ducks:
I am also a Catholic, but a convert. Here are some scripture verses that support the “Trinity”. This is something both Catholics and Protestants believe in. The*** Spirit of God*** that is being mentioned is the same Holy Spirit in the Trinity. It is the same Holy Spirit we remember when we Cross our selves in the "Name of …"

Verses:

Gen. 1:1-3, 26
Is. 40:13 & 48:16
Judges 13: 8-23
Prov. 8:22-31
Is. 6:3
Numbers 6:24-27
Matthew 3:16, 17
John 14:26 & 15:26 & 28:19
2 Cor. 13:14
Gal. 4:4-6

I would also suggest that if you have the Catechism of the Catholic Church handy that you go to the Subject Index in the back and look up all the references to the Trinity.

Hope this helps. God Bless You.
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None of these verses uses the word “trinity,” though, and that is what the OP is driving at. You see, many a Protestant will say to Catholics, "Show me where the word “pope” or “immaculate conception” or “mother of God”, etc. are in the Bible. They aren’t interested in verses that implicitly support these teachings, but only in making the asinine point that since the word/phrase itself isn’t in the Bible the teaching must be false.
 
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Mannyfit75:
I am Catholic and I’m in the US Army 👍

For Protestants:

Since you believe in Sola Scriptura, do you believe in the Holy Trinity? If you believe in the Trinity, then prove to me where the word in the Bible states it. Your only resources is the Bible.

For Catholic:

You can use both Bible, and the any document that support the belief in the Holy Trinity.
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Peace be with you.

I want to say “thank you” for serving your country. Each and every day, you and all members of the Armed Services, especially those in Iraq and Afghanistan, are in my thoughts and prayers. May the peace of Christ be with you and the Lord Most High watch over and protect you and your military brethran.

Thank you for serving!!!

Peace.

Jim
 
I cannot prove the trinity but this I humbly offer.

Isaiah 9:6 “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

Isaiah 63:16 “Doubtless thou art our Father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O LORD, art our Father, our Redeemer: thy name is from everlasting.”

1Cor. 8:6 “but to us there is but one God, the Father…”

Matthew 1:23 “Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.” Verse 25 “and knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.”

Matthew 6:9 “After this manner therefore pray ye: **Our Father ** which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.”

John 3:13 “And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.”

Matthew 28:19 “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in **the name ** of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”

Acts 2:38 “Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in **the name of Jesus Christ ** for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”

Acts 4:12 “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is **none other name ** under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”

2Cor. 3:17 “Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.”

1Tim. 3:16 “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh…”
 
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Della:
None of these verses uses the word “trinity,” though, and that is what the OP is driving at. You see, many a Protestant will say to Catholics, "Show me where the word “pope” or “immaculate conception” or “mother of God”, etc. are in the Bible. They aren’t interested in verses that implicitly support these teachings, but only in making the asinine point that since the word/phrase itself isn’t in the Bible the teaching must be false.
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Hi Della,

Whenever an arian, Jehovah’s Witness or Homean arian, SDA says the word trinity is not in the bible. I simply laugh at them and say so what? Della we both know that is a false argument that carries no weight. I have only heard anti-catholics make such stupid arguments and I have never heard an intelligent protestant make such an argument.
 
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Mannyfit75:
I am Catholic and I’m in the US Army 👍

For Protestants:

Since you believe in Sola Scriptura, do you believe in the Holy Trinity? If you believe in the Trinity, then prove to me where the word in the Bible states it. Your only resources is the Bible.

For Catholic:

You can use both Bible, and the any document that support the belief in the Holy Trinity.
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Your thread title, and your requirements are two different things.

The word trinity is not in the Bible, but the ECF’s defined it from the Bible.
 
As other posters have referenced there is adequit scriptual support for the Three Persons of the Trinity.

The problems come from scriptual justification for co equal persons and for the defining of those roles in the concept that we broadly describe as “Trinity”.

If the OP’s point is to pick a fight over the broader understanding of Trinity they should make that point more clearly so that we can adequity engage our Protestant brothers.

I am hoping that it was not his intention. The fact is both Protestants and Catholics are united in our believe and understanding of the Trinity and that should be sufficient. Let’s be good witnesses to our Faith.
 
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sandusky:
Your thread title, and your requirements are two different things.

The word trinity is not in the Bible, but the ECF’s defined it from the Bible.
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How did the ECF’s define the Bible?
 
I understand the op asking how to defened the trinity from your tradition. But, he has a miss understanding of sola scriptura protestants as being bible only without the use of creeds and councils and thus I posted Bowman’s outline of trinity doctrine from the Bible. He expects catholics to weave scripture and tradition together to defened the trinity
 
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jim1130:
Peace be with you.

I want to say “thank you” for serving your country. Each and every day, you and all members of the Armed Services, especially those in Iraq and Afghanistan, are in my thoughts and prayers. May the peace of Christ be with you and the Lord Most High watch over and protect you and your military brethran.

Thank you for serving!!!

Peace.

Jim
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:bounce: :love: Me Too-I pray for you before The Blessed Sacrament and dedicate my work hours to you and all the military. I noticed that this is your first post. WELCOME TO CA.
:blessyou:
 
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exoflare:
How did the ECF’s define the Bible?
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They defined it as the God’s inspired Word. Jesus defined it as Truth. Paul defined it as sufficient to make one wise unto salvation.
 
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sandusky:
They defined it as the God’s inspired Word. Jesus defined it as Truth. Paul defined it as sufficient to make one wise unto salvation.
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JESUS defined the Bible as “truth”? So I suppose the entire New Testament must have been written sometime before Jesus’ death and resurrection, in that case? You can’t have the Bible without the New Testament, after all…

I’d really love to know where you get your alleged quote from Paul as well… If it’s from a book that composes the Bible, then how could he have been speaking of the Bible as a whole at the time that he was writing it?
 
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sandusky:
Paul defined it as sufficient to make one wise unto salvation.
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Was Paul speaking of the OT at this time? We all know he could not have be talking of the complete NT…
Where can I find this ref to read it’s context?

Be Blessed!
CS
 
Daniel Marsh:
Hi Della,

Whenever an arian, Jehovah’s Witness or Homean arian, SDA says the word trinity is not in the bible. I simply laugh at them and say so what? Della we both know that is a false argument that carries no weight. I have only heard anti-catholics make such stupid arguments and I have never heard an intelligent protestant make such an argument.
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Right, but that’s not the point here. The OP is only using the word trinity as an example of a word that Protestants take for granted as biblical, although it isn’t perfectly clear to anyone who picks up a Bible what the truth is about the Trinity because it isn’t defined as we understand it there, but can be supported, which is an entirely different thing. As you cite, JWs and SDAs don’t accept this teaching and they use the Bible for their arguments, too. Yes?
 
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exoflare:
JESUS defined the Bible as “truth”? So I suppose the entire New Testament must have been written sometime before Jesus’ death and resurrection, in that case? You can’t have the Bible without the New Testament, after all…
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You suppose incorrectly.
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exoflare:
I’d really love to know where you get your alleged quote from Paul as well…
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2 Tim 3:15.
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exoflare:
If it’s from a book that composes the Bible, then how could he have been speaking of the Bible as a whole at the time that he was writing it?
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He wasn’t; he was speaking of the Jewish scriptures, what we call the Old Testament.

Sandusky
 
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