true this would have gained some degree of marginalization as we see from a secular view and thus the opposing view, so all has to be considered in perspective.
christiancourier.com/articles/623-nero-caesar-and-the-christian-faith
in A.D. 64, a fierce persecution was launched against the saints in Rome.
The history of these peoples is marginalized as obviously they were marginalized. The secular or Romans and various others certainly wouldn’t have wrote and made any excessive attempt to even mention them as they were discarded as delusional, but then surely their treatment was delusional too.
It should be no surprise they didn’t record the facts of the tomb as it really wouldn’t have fit their narrative of the delusional people they killed to help their cause to promote the christian fascination. And as we have to admit there is good reason why Christian documentation is little, its due to their persecution and intentional destruction in the entire Roman empire.
However by 149 again we have direct followers with Irenaeus and in relation by large to the Gospel of John affirms the fourth Gospel was written by the apostle John, the teacher of Irenaeus’s mentor Polycarp. This is strong evidence that this is John’s testimony. Just as Julius Ceasar is authenticated in his works. Same paradigm exists and in this sense as with here, the community is the factual group documenting scripture of which the scripture testifies to. This community still exists with the Church with exactly the same manner of transmission of its belief. There is just as much reason to believe these delusional people as there is the delusional people who killed them and there documentation which weighs in the same evaluation of their documentation historically.
That said, John out of all the gospels is considered the most spiritual and records seven miracles
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_signs_in_the_Gospel_of_John
Its a meaningless question to ask at the moment if those stories are true. What matters is in a closely related time frame historically this community began testifying to the miracles and Jesus life death etc. And while being persecuted, so we have to say they were testifying to the truth as they believed and witnessed and for sure was witnessed according to their community and the book or scriptures which emerges from this community and later down the road becomes the NT-27. And its seems delusional isn’t a very good argument in relation to either and historically.
Surely the Romans and other outside groups could really have cared less and were probably grateful it wasn’t them. I have no reason to expect any documentation from them in regards to the tomb, they believed he was “dead”…“not God” and the death proved it. For sure they had a different view of “finished” on the Cross.
But its does beg the question that something happened with that body.
The Empty Tomb
20 Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance. 2 So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one Jesus loved, and said, “They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we don’t know where they have put him!”
3 So Peter and the other disciple started for the tomb. 4 Both were running, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. 5 He bent over and looked in at the strips of linen lying there but did not go in. 6 Then Simon Peter came along behind him and went straight into the tomb. He saw the strips of linen lying there, 7 as well as the cloth that had been wrapped around Jesus’ head. The cloth was still lying in its place, separate from the linen. 8 Finally the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went inside. He saw and believed. 9 (They still did not understand from Scripture that Jesus had to rise from the dead.)10 Then the disciples went back to where they were staying.
Jesus Appears to Mary Magdalene
11 Now Mary stood outside the tomb crying. As she wept, she bent over to look into the tomb12 and saw two angels in white, seated where Jesus’ body had been, one at the head and the other at the foot.
13 They asked her, “Woman, why are you crying?”
“They have taken my Lord away,” she said, “and I don’t know where they have put him.” 14 At this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not realize that it was Jesus.
15 He asked her, “Woman, why are you crying? Who is it you are looking for?”
Thinking he was the gardener, she said, “Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have put him, and I will get him.”
16 Jesus said to her, “Mary.”
She turned toward him and cried out in Aramaic, “Rabboni!” (which means “Teacher”).
17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
We have no idea if “man” even has anything to do with these supernatural objects
news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/04/150417-shroud-turin-relics-jesus-catholic-church-religion-science/
I would say we could safely say there are other “mysteries” with theories ranging from miracle to it can be explained- “at some point yet to come”, to super-“natural”, but yet beyond our current understanding of facts relating to this item and Mexico and the Tilma appears to be another scientific dilemma.
I don’t find it unbelievable at all nor delusional. But what does science itself say?
“It is unlikely science will provide a full solution to the many riddles posed by the shroud,” Italian physicist Paolo Di Lazzaro, a leading expert on the phenomenon, told National Geographic. “A leap of faith over questions without clear answers is necessary—either the ‘faith’ of skeptics, or the faith of believers.”
