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I came across this quote by Anthony Burgess today. I had not really thought about the dynamics on the world religious stage quite in these terms, previously. But there is something there, while it is well above my pay grade to know what that is. There is a vitality to Islam which is lacking in Christianity. It is no accident, I think, that Islam grows while Christianity is less vital. But here is the quote, which provoked me:

“The Christian ecumenical movement will have reached its limit, meaning that Catholicism will have turned into Protestantism and Protestantism into agnosticism…But Islam will not have lost any of its rigour…Supernature abhors a supervacuum. With the death of institutional Christianity will come the spread of Islam.”
 
I had thought of this.
As the churches empty increasingly especially in some areas, one cannot help but think such thoughts.
Already Christians are much persecuted in some Muslim countries.

In England Muslims are growing more prominent with a recent claim that Mohammad is the second most popular boys’ name. … a sign of things to come?
express.co.uk/news/uk/421481/Changing-face-of-Britain-Muhammad-is-now-second-most-popular-boys-name

Some English schools requiring the burka for girls aged 13 and over.
telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/10317036/Islamic-schools-making-girls-wear-veils-and-burkas.html

However Jesus did say that the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. Prayer and action, God’s grace…
 
It’s growing because of fanatical leaders, preaching a simple message of hatred and revenge (with attendant afterlife bounties to come), against a stated enemy (the west), and because it’s adherents manly live in poverty and are under-educated and this is one way out…

Not because of any inherent spiritual vitality that Catholicism is lacking.
 
I disagree, Triumphguy. I think this is happening because in the politically correct age; our leaders are so afraid of appearing racist, intolerant, and unaccepting of other cultures; these “extremists” are allowed to walk all over us. This multicultural “everybody’s okay” mentality is sheer buffoonery.

Our elected “progressive” leaders have the mental defect of assuming that everybody: will play nice, wants to “co-exist”, just wants to live in peace, and we’ll all hold hands singing “We Are the World”.

Christianity is by it’s very nature a pacifist philosophy, but a certain other religion is not. That is where government should step in. And they are failing miserably.

Just my two cents (or five cents since Canada did away with the penny, Triumph…).
 
Islam in Europe is growing not because of Islam’s message, but rather, because of immigration of Muslims fleeing their own Islamic lands because of war and oppression.

Christians on the other hand, have limited their families to one or two children at best, with some not having children at all. The result is that the populations in various parts of Europe can not sustain themselves and as Muslim immigrants move in, they will become the majority very soon. But their young will take up atheism and agnosticism, just as their Christian and Jewish counter parts have done. Also, growth in the occult and demonic worship has grown in the past 20 years, world-wide and bring it’s own evils to the world.

Nothing can be done to change this other than continue to live the Gospel Jesus taught us. If we live Christ centered lives, there will be young people of all persuasions who will see the virtues in our way of faith and seek Christ themselves. However, we will never become the majority again, but the quality of our faith will be richer than ever.

In the end, it’s going to become a struggle between good and evil, as those who have the power at the time will not yield, but will persecute those who threaten their position, religious people especially.

Atheism will probably be the one’s holding on to this power, even as they preach tolerance for all people of different faiths and ideologies.

Christ 2nd coming will follow, but I see two more generations before this comes.

Just my personal opinion of course.

Jim
 
epan said:
I came across this quote by Anthony Burgess today. I had not really thought about the dynamics on the world religious stage quite in these terms, previously. But there is something there, while it is well above my pay grade to know what that is. There is a vitality to Islam which is lacking in Christianity. It is no accident, I think, that Islam grows while Christianity is less vital. But here is the quote, which provoked me:

“The Christian ecumenical movement will have reached its limit, meaning that Catholicism will have turned into Protestantism and Protestantism into agnosticism…But Islam will not have lost any of its rigour…Supernature abhors a supervacuum. With the death of institutional Christianity will come the spread of Islam.”
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This quote has no merit. What the heck is “supernature”? There is only God who created the Catholic Church, and a bunch of windbags talking about vague forces of nature that make no logical sense.
 
runningdude said:
This quote has no merit. What the heck is “supernature”? There is only God who created the Catholic Church, and a bunch of windbags talking about vague forces of nature that make no logical sense.
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no merit? then how do you explain the current decline of Christianity in its former strongholds, and the rise of Islam?
 
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