Psalm 81:6 (or 82:6 for Protestant Bibles)

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I will include verse seven for more context.
“6 I have said: You are gods and all of you the sons of the most High. 7 But you like men shall die: and shall fall like one of the princes.”

And, related to this, John 10:34.
“Jesus answered them: Is it not written in your law: I said you are gods?”

Someone told me to look this up. He’s trying to convince me that this means we are gods. While this is obviously not true, the verses confuse me.

What is the appropriate interpretation of these verses?
 
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I am no theologian but this question has bothered me since I read it a few days ago. Since I see no one has responded, I will give it a try.
It helped me to look at the whole Psalm 81 -* (Note, it might help to think “false god” every time god is mentioned, since we know there is only one God, all others are false; are of Satan).*

1** A psalm for Asaph. God hath stood in the congregation of gods: and being in the midst of them he judgeth gods. **2 How long will you judge unjustly: and accept the persons of the wicked? (We do this all the time, believing that we know better than God and we are wrong everytime) 3 Judge for the needy and fatherless: do justice to the humble and the poor. 4 Rescue the poor; and deliver the needy out of the hand of the sinner. 5 They have not known nor understood: they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth shall be moved. 6 I have said: You are gods and all of you the sons of the most High. (I take this as an indictment, we are the sons of the most High, and we know it, but we often persist in relying on our own judgement, as if we were a god.) 7 But you like men shall die: and shall fall like one of the princes. **(Here God reminds us that although we may like to think of ourselves as gods, we will perish as mortal men and will fall like one of the fallen angels, princes of darkness; banished to Hell if unrepentant) 8 Arise, O God, judge thou the earth: for thou shalt inherit among all the nations. (Here the prophet shows how God will have the final say and will inherit among all the nations, those who remain children of God, faithful til the end.)

Well, that’s my two cents. In a nutshell, it is warning us against thinking of ourselves as gods. We were created by God and He is the one we should rely on for all our judgements.
(An excellent warning to those Cafeteria Catholics who think they know better, and try to pick and choose what *they *think is right. You know, the old, well the Bilbe was written thousands of years ago and it doesn’t pertain to us now. Sure we can use birth control, if God had known how things would be in the year 2000 he would have allowed it, etc, etc, etc. As if God didn’t know… yeah right, try another one.)
 
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What is the appropriate interpretation of these verses?

THE INTERPRETATION IN THE GREEK AND ARAMAIC TEXT HAS TO DO WITH LIVING RIGHTEOUS AND FOLLOWING G-D’S LAW.
ye are gods , meaning you are doing good things over evil things , peace brothers and sisters:thumbsup: 👍
 
I will include verse seven for more context.
“6 I have said: You are gods and all of you the sons of the most High. 7 But you like men shall die: and shall fall like one of the princes.”

And, related to this, John 10:34.
“Jesus answered them: Is it not written in your law: I said you are gods?”

Someone told me to look this up. He’s trying to convince me that this means we are gods. While this is obviously not true, the verses confuse me.

What is the appropriate interpretation of these verses?
D-R Bible, Haydock Commentary:

Psalms 81:6. Gods. The people look upon you as such, and treat you with respect. But entertain not sentiments of pride on that account. (Calmet) — If judges, even those whom God condemns, may be styled gods without blasphemy, how much more might Jesus Christ, who was holy and did the works of God? He uses this argument to make the fury of the people abate: but then he continues to prove that he was God in a very different and proper sense, insomuch that the Jews, clearly perceiving his meaning, which Socinians would now mistake, took up stones to throw at him, John x. 34. (Haydock) — If he had not been God, He would surely have told them plainly, as St. Paul did when people would have offered sacrifice to him, and as St. John the Baptist confessed that he was not the Christ. The sons of Seth, priests, the just, and all the Israelites, were styled sons of God, as well as the angels and judges, Genesis vi. 2., Psalm xxviii. 1., Wisdom v. 5., and Job i. 6. But no individual is called the Son, except Jesus Christ the true God. (Berthier) — This passage may be understood of all the faithful, (St. Augustine) particularly of bishops: and Constantine the Great was hence deterred from judging them (St. Gregory i. dec. Grat. p. 2. c. 11. q. 1.) or the clergy; (St. Melchiades c. 12. q. 1.) though this name seems inaccurate, as the died before (Glossa) the council of Nice. Amama restrains the text to men in power. (Haydock) — Their elevated station make their ignorance and misconduct less excusable. (Menochius)

John 10:34. This is addressed to princes established to govern the people of God. They are the image of God on earth by the authority they exercise, and which they have received from Him. — Is it not written in you law, (under which were also comprehended the Psalms) I have said: you are Gods? &c. Christ here stops the mouths of the Jews, by an argument which they could not answer, that sometimes they were called Gods, who acted by God’s authority. I have said: you are Gods. (Psalm lxxxi. 6.) But then he immediately declares, that it is not in this sense only that he is God. 1st, Because he has been sanctified by the Father, which St. Augustine and others understand of that infinite sanctification, which he has necessarily by always proceeding from the Father. Others expound it of a greater sanctity and fulness of grace above all other saints, given to him, even as he was man. But 2ndly, he adds at the same time, and confirms what he had often told them, that he was the Son of God, sent into the world: that his works shew that he was in the Father, and the Father in him. by this they saw that he was far from recalling or contradicting what he had said before. And therefore (ver. 30.) they sought to apprehend him, and put him to death for blasphemy. (Witham) — Eloim, which name of God was so called from judging, and may be interpreted judges. (Menochius)
 
The problem with the king james bible is not what its stating but how we understand it’s meaning in the early english interpretation . that is why you have so much confusion going on in the evangelical-protestant world of today , you have some groups reverting practices of judaism into the worship services , disregarding the apostle paul’s teaching on observing the sabbath , new moons , dietary laws etc. (Colossians 2 verses 16-23) , Psalm 81 verse 6 is a perfect example of the confusion set inside the mind of many people.
remember the next verse (rise up , G-D , judge the earth for all nations belong to you.Christ replaced it with the words this is the blood of my new covenant/Luke 22 verse 21/ St.Ignatius of Loyola and St.John of the Cross taught the believers , discernment and open study of teachings , must fall into the authority of how Christ wanted taught. every old testament passage must comply with the gospel passage that the apostles set for us , and not our own thoughts.
G-D forbid if every man thought he or she is a god. peace:thumbsup: 👍 👍
 
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