Psychic abilities...could they be real?

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aicirt said:
They didn’t ask to know, they just knew. Hospice nurses deal with it all the time.

Here’s an example: husband watching by bed of dying wife who suddenly gets up from the bed (was not mobile until this happened), walks to the doorway calling, “Yes, Dad,” followed by her spouse who is trying to get her back to bed. She turns back on her own. Husband asks her, “Why did you want to go out in the hall? You shouldn’t get up.” She replied, “Dad is calling but said it isn’t time yet but soon.”
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But is this really “psychic”? According to dictionary.reference.com, being pyschic is:

1.of or pertaining to the human soul or mind; mental ( opposed to physical).
2.Psychology . pertaining to or noting mental phenomena.
3.outside of natural or scientific knowledge; spiritual.
4.of or pertaining to some apparently nonphysical force or agency: psychic research; psychic phenomena.
5.sensitive to influences or forces of a nonphysical or supernatural nature.

So being “psychic” is not predicting the future as much as something supernatural. In the case mentioned above, I believe that she was not predicting the future; the future was being told to her. Therefore, according to the dictionary, she is psychic but not a person that can predict the future.

That being said, I thought only God could know the future. But in this case, it seemed the deceased father told her. Maybe God told him so he could tell her? If then, why? I don’t expect a solid answer; just opinions.
 
Timothy_Garber said:
But is this really “psychic”? According to dictionary.reference.com, being pyschic is:

1.of or pertaining to the human soul or mind; mental ( opposed to physical).
2.Psychology . pertaining to or noting mental phenomena.
3.outside of natural or scientific knowledge; spiritual.
4.of or pertaining to some apparently nonphysical force or agency: psychic research; psychic phenomena.
5.sensitive to influences or forces of a nonphysical or supernatural nature.

So being “psychic” is not predicting the future as much as something supernatural. In the case mentioned above, I believe that she was not predicting the future; the future was being told to her. Therefore, according to the dictionary, she is psychic but not a person that can predict the future.

That being said, I thought only God could know the future. But in this case, it seemed the deceased father told her. Maybe God told him so he could tell her? If then, why? I don’t expect a solid answer; just opinions.
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The woman is dying. What did her Dad tell her that everyone did not already know? She was going to die, and she did. What is psychic about any of this?
 
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That being said, I thought only God could know the future. But in this case, it seemed the deceased father told her. Maybe God told him so he could tell her? If then, why? I don’t expect a solid answer; just opinions./QUOTE

Or it could be the devil. We are only asking for trouble when we look too much into these types of things.
 
Julia_Mae said:
I think TV shows and that sort of thing aren’t very good for figuring out what;'s real and what’s not. Here is a paper on the topic: Statistical Evidence for Psychic Functioning that assesses controlled and replicated experiments.

It’s a very long paper, but worth the read. You might also look at this site for research done at Princeton: PEARS click on “experiments” and on that page scroll down to “remote viewing.”
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Thank you for sharing these links. I found them to be very helpful.
 
White_Tree said:
Thank you for sharing these links. I found them to be very helpful.
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Is it helpful to get information from a research group located on the campus of Stanford but is not affilitated with it? What exactly is this group about?
Questions that make you go, hmmm
 
StrawberryJam said:
Is it helpful to get information from a research group located on the campus of Stanford but is not affilitated with it? What exactly is this group about?
Questions that make you go, hmmm
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Yes, I do think it is helpful. I don’t see why the research group’s affiliation or lack thereof with Stanford should have any bearing on whether their research is valuable.

It is not uncommon for research agencies to locate around universities in order to benefit from the presence of professors and others in research-oriented careers. Research is one of those fields where being in physical proximity to others who are also doing research has real benefits for all parties involved. Many times, professors will also participate in research at neighboring facilities that are not affiliated at all with the university at which they teach. I personally know several tenured professors who have jobs outside academia, in addition to their university positions.

Plus, there is nothing about the author of the paper itself that makes me suspicious. She is a statistics professor at U.C. Irvine. (In fact, she is currently the chairman of the statistics department there).

So what exactly is it that makes you think this study is somehow not worthy of consideration?
 
Well human mind has the ability to go beyond it’s limitations and discover more and more dimensions of living so i’m sure it’s quite possible for people to possess psychic qualities.
 
Wow, so many replies. Thank you all. I really enjoyed reading them all. Many different view points all very valid.

I understand what some have said about keeping away from this sort of thing. I have already been there done that, and now that I am away from it all, I find it quite funny to watch. I use to believe everything these people said, now I look back I cannot believe I did.

On the other hand, some posted replies also saying that it is possible for some to have a gift, and I agree with this too. I think it would be a very small number compared to the huge number of ‘psychic’s’ out there. Also, the comment that “Kieron123” said that generally they would be more likely to live away from society and in their own respective religions made a lot of sense to me. If they were truly talented, they maybe would not feel the need to ‘show’ everyone. Too much ego and they want to charge the earth for this sort of thing too.
How is that helping people?

I guess this is just one of those debates that everyone has such a different opinion on…I think I would say I am swaying towards----95% of Psychic (and Mediums etc) are lying to themselves and others (simply for fame, money and ego) the rest might be truly blessed and gifted from God.🤷

Thank you all again.🙂
 
Timothy_Garber said:
But is this really “psychic”? According to dictionary.reference.com, being pyschic is:

1.of or pertaining to the human soul or mind; mental ( opposed to physical).
2.Psychology . pertaining to or noting mental phenomena.
3.outside of natural or scientific knowledge; spiritual.
4.of or pertaining to some apparently nonphysical force or agency: psychic research; psychic phenomena.
5.sensitive to influences or forces of a nonphysical or supernatural nature.

So being “psychic” is not predicting the future as much as something supernatural. In the case mentioned above, I believe that she was not predicting the future; the future was being told to her. Therefore, according to the dictionary, she is psychic but not a person that can predict the future.

That being said, I thought only God could know the future. But in this case, it seemed the deceased father told her. Maybe God told him so he could tell her? If then, why? I don’t expect a solid answer; just opinions.
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Certainly it was God working through her father. In my opinion, it is a wonderful thing to have someone you know come to you and let you know all will be well. As I said before, this happens a lot with hospice workers many of whom have experienced this with their patients.

Yes, we should have faith and not be fearful at the time of death but that’s us looking at something we have not experienced. Oddly enough, the people I know were not hysterical about dying and half of them were not on heavy duty drugs. They totally accepted what was given to them regarding their passing and had peaceful deaths.

Why would God send her father or anyone to us? To give us peace, to know soon we’ll be free of this life and its pain, to give us the extra time to pray for forgiveness, ask for the Last Rites, and to let those we are leaving know all will be well. What a gift!
 
aicirt said:
Yes, we should have faith and not be fearful at the time of death but that’s us looking at something we have not experienced. Oddly enough, the people I know were not hysterical about dying and half of them were not on heavy duty drugs. They totally accepted what was given to them regarding their passing and had peaceful deaths.

Why would God send her father or anyone to us? To give us peace, to know soon we’ll be free of this life and its pain, to give us the extra time to pray for forgiveness, ask for the Last Rites, and to let those we are leaving know all will be well. What a gift!
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An amazing gift. Just beautiful! 🙂
 
My only direct experience has been that I have known on multiple occasions of the exact moment of a person’s death. This has always been someone close to me, friend or family. It comes over me like a wave, and I know who just died.

The first time it happened, it was a good friend who was ill. I knew that his days were numbered, and that he was close to dying. I felt it when he died, even though nobody had foreknowledge of when it would happen. I called his home, and he had passed on at the exact moment that I felt whatever that was.

The next time was a friend who died on his motorcycle. I bolted upright in bed. I didn’t yet recognize this peculiar trait that I have. I just knew that something terrible had happened. The front forks of his bike had separated due to the faulty work of a mechanic, and he went head first into a pole at the exact moment that I woke up.

One that I am grateful for is that I felt an overwhelming compulsion to visit my grandparents. They lived about a 2 hour drive from where I was working. I made an excuse and left work, early and unexpectedly. Went there. My grandmother had not told anyone how bad my grandfather was getting. He was in pretty bad shape. I made them dinner. He and I watched a basketball game together. When he finally retired, she told me how nice the evening had been. He had not eaten a full meal, or stayed up that late in a long time. She thought he had a wonderful evening. The next morning, he got out of bed, and then fell to the floor and died.

Call these coincidences. I have no explanation for them. I don’t understand it. But it is real. I have a number of similar stories, all of them about someone close to me who has died, and I know it exactly when it happens. The premonition with my grandfather is something I can’t explain. I had no knowledge of his condition. I was driven to go see him that night. It was like a compulsive drive, to drop everything and get over there for a visit. I had never felt that before.
 
aicirt said:
Yes, we should have faith and not be fearful at the time of death but that’s us looking at something we have not experienced. Oddly enough, the people I know were not hysterical about dying and half of them were not on heavy duty drugs. They totally accepted what was given to them regarding their passing and had peaceful deaths.

Why would God send her father or anyone to us? To give us peace, to know soon we’ll be free of this life and its pain, to give us the extra time to pray for forgiveness, ask for the Last Rites, and to let those we are leaving know all will be well. What a gift!
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Well said, to see this one must see their humanity for what it is. So the priority becomes the Soul passing through the physical realm contingent on time. Yet at the same time priority resides in the humanity with the generations to come.

And yes to receive all the Sacraments of the Church in passing IMHO is without a doubt a Blessing.
 
epan said:
My only direct experience has been that I have known on multiple occasions of the exact moment of a person’s death. This has always been someone close to me, friend or family. It comes over me like a wave, and I know who just died.

The first time it happened, it was a good friend who was ill. I knew that his days were numbered, and that he was close to dying. I felt it when he died, even though nobody had foreknowledge of when it would happen. I called his home, and he had passed on at the exact moment that I felt whatever that was.

The next time was a friend who died on his motorcycle. I bolted upright in bed. I didn’t yet recognize this peculiar trait that I have. I just knew that something terrible had happened. The front forks of his bike had separated due to the faulty work of a mechanic, and he went head first into a pole at the exact moment that I woke up.

One that I am grateful for is that I felt an overwhelming compulsion to visit my grandparents. They lived about a 2 hour drive from where I was working. I made an excuse and left work, early and unexpectedly. Went there. My grandmother had not told anyone how bad my grandfather was getting. He was in pretty bad shape. I made them dinner. He and I watched a basketball game together. When he finally retired, she told me how nice the evening had been. He had not eaten a full meal, or stayed up that late in a long time. She thought he had a wonderful evening. The next morning, he got out of bed, and then fell to the floor and died.

Call these coincidences. I have no explanation for them. I don’t understand it. But it is real. I have a number of similar stories, all of them about someone close to me who has died, and I know it exactly when it happens. The premonition with my grandfather is something I can’t explain. I had no knowledge of his condition. I was driven to go see him that night. It was like a compulsive drive, to drop everything and get over there for a visit. I had never felt that before.
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Wow! That’s a lot to have happen. You might be interested in reading MESSAGES,SIGNS,VISITS AND PREMONITIONS by Bonnie Mc Eeaney whose husband had a premonition re. 911 and was killed in the disaster. He had been there in the 1993 attack. The Saturday before 9ll there was a Labor Day picnic at his home and he was asking his brothers what he should do when the Towers were hit again. He was asking his siblings if it happened, should he take his employees up or go down? He had led the office out in 93. Apparently, he has these “feelings” for months before to the extent that Bonnie had strongly suggested he give up his job as a stockbroker there and find another job.

I understand the “feeling” thing that comes over you. I have not had your experiences, but how many of us have heard people say, “I knew when I saw him he would be the man I would marry.” It happened with my father. My Mom walked out on the porch, he looked at her and said to his friend, “That’s the girl I’m going to marry.” And they did.
 
aicirt said:
Wow! That’s a lot to have happen. You might be interested in reading MESSAGES,SIGNS,VISITS AND PREMONITIONS by Bonnie Mc Eeaney whose husband had a premonition re. 911 and was killed in the disaster. He had been there in the 1993 attack. The Saturday before 9ll there was a Labor Day picnic at his home and he was asking his brothers what he should do when the Towers were hit again. He was asking his siblings if it happened, should he take his employees up or go down? He had led the office out in 93. Apparently, he has these “feelings” for months before to the extent that Bonnie had strongly suggested he give up his job as a stockbroker there and find another job.

I understand the “feeling” thing that comes over you. I have not had your experiences, but how many of us have heard people say, “I knew when I saw him he would be the man I would marry.” It happened with my father. My Mom walked out on the porch, he looked at her and said to his friend, “That’s the girl I’m going to marry.” And they did.
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I’d have to say Wow too! ‘Epan’ that is amazing. It’s obvious you do have a natural gift, your intuition (if I can say) seems spot on.

‘Aicirt’ you are completely correct with what you said. So many people do have the ability to just ‘know’ things, like Epan. It is something that many people experience. I have similar things happen to me, but not to the extent of you Epan, so far anyway.

I do think that God created us to be so much. The possibilities might be endless in what we can achieve as humans. It does seem though, are minds are capable of so much more, most of which we can only hope to one day understand.

The mystery of life, hey.😉
 
StrawberryJam said:
I don’t have the heart to do it myself, but there is one foolproof way to out a psychic. You ask them if they have psychic abilities and if they say they do, crack them across the face.
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:rotfl::rotfl:

Thanks I needed a laugh this morning.
 
StrawberryJam said:
The woman is dying. What did her Dad tell her that everyone did not already know? She was going to die, and she did. What is psychic about any of this?
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Now she knows something that before she probably only believed: that her dad is alive and well. She knows he’s coming for her, so she doesn’t fear facing the unknown when she passes.

A child may know they are going to start kindergarten, but a loving parent will take them to the school so they know where they are going, reassure them that they will take them and be there when they come out.
 
StrawberryJam said:
Is it helpful to get information from a research group located on the campus of Stanford but is not affilitated with it? What exactly is this group about?
Questions that make you go, hmmm
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If they “make you go hmmmmmm” then you can explore the site, find out how the Stanford professor became involved in the research, how he expanded his research and got funding for that. You could look up the credentials of the researchers and find out they are impeccable in terms of academics and that they are way smarter than any of us.
 
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