Psychic Mediums

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I’d say it’s mostly all baloney. Dangerous? Maybe in deluding oneself of one’s unique greatness and further estranging ones self from the Truth (God). Regarding Cayce, in my opinion he’s as authentic as a ouija board - entertaining but hardly anything worth spending money on
Don’t underestimate the danger of Ouija Boards. I know from first hand what they can do to a family. I saw it myself 50 years ago. My Mom always said if you play with fire, your gonna get burned. Why do you think the Catholic Church forbids them. They are not just a silly game, believe me! I’d stay far away from any of that “stuff”. God Bless, Memaw
 
Don’t underestimate the danger of Ouija Boards. I know from first hand what they can do to a family. I saw it myself 50 years ago. My Mom always said if you play with fire, your gonna get burned. Why do you think the Catholic Church forbids them. They are not just a silly game, believe me! I’d stay far away from any of that “stuff”. God Bless, Memaw
I personally have no interest in it, but I don’t believe most of the stated effects either since I have never heard of a legitimate case (one that didn’t involve persons with other proven psychological issues or trauma). I’m not saying this about your family since I don’t know you. Personally I’d stay away just out of a sheer lack of interest and not wanting to lose my wallet
 
What Edward does isn’t a “religion” in any way, of course.
And I’m not sure how what he does can be considered magical thinking…except that many people think the belief of an afterlife is magical, wishful thinking.
But what he does is more concrete.
Of all the books I’ve read and religions I’ve researched and “holy” words I’ve listened to, the only possible “evidence” I’ve seen/heard with my own senses so far that there is an afterlife is what I’ve seen him do.
I took someone in to see him and he relayed the words this person said aloud to their deceased mother as she stood at her gravesite the week before – without any cues from my friend, whom I had ordered to remain silent during the entire reading.
I would think more religious people might champion someone like Edward because he supports–encourages–the belief of an afterlife.

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I really think John Edward is sincere in what he does. From a Christian perspective what about the possibility that these are Satan’s demons using knowledge about the various people’s relatives. I agree it’s very curious that he can convey the knowledge that only the person or family being read would know but I have heard the arguments about demons being involved.

Thanks for your (name removed by moderator)ut as well to this discussion~

Blessings

Rita
 
John Edward hasn’t had a show on TV in 8 years–he now does everything online as he prefers it.
He was brought up Catholic. Before he started his first show in the late 90’s, he consulted with a number of Catholic priests…who gave him their blessing to do what he does.
(I know this because I’ve interviewed him and at the time, I interviewed the priests as well).
I don’t think he attends mass much, but he does the rosary a lot–probably every day. He wrote a book in 2005 about the rosary called: *
Practical Praying: Using the Rosary to Enhance Your Life*
I thought I would follow you for a while to see what you are up to.😃 I’m a science researcher.😃 He appears to be a quack. His real name is John Edward McGee, Jr. (1) He isn’t a practicing Catholic according to World Religions & Spirituality Project VCU • Virginia Commonwealth University. Here is an excerpt from that website (2):
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*While John Edward was raised in the Roman Catholic tradition, he reportedly began to question his religious identity from an early age. Throughout his childhood, he attended weekly mass and was encouraged to participate in church activities; however, he recalls approaching religion with a sense of skepticism, conducting independent research on religious traditions outside of his own. This sense of separation was, to an extent, both fueled and intensified by Edward’s psychic abilities. As his abilities began to play a larger role in his life and he started to interpret them in a paranormal sense, he felt distanced from the faith of his childhood which renounces the paranormal. While Edward never fully dissociated himself from the Catholic faith and continues to identify himself as a Catholic, his professed religious beliefs diverge from traditional Catholicism and Christianity in several fundamental respects, primarily in that he does not consider Jesus Christ to be the son of God (Edward 2001). While he does affirm the existence of a God, he regards the divine to be impersonal. Edward’s experiences with the supernatural have led him to adopt a pluralistic stance toward religion, considering different religious traditions to be different paths to the same ultimate reality. Therefore, while he does consider Jesus a prophetic figure, he proclaims Christ to have been “‘one of many’” (Quoted by Hallowell 2013).

Furthermore, Edward has incorporated Eastern and Native American religious ideals into his personal belief system. Edward began alluding to belief in reincarnation as a child, claiming not only to have lived multiple lives, but to have retained memories and knowledge of his past lives. In addition, Edward has professed a belief in Spirit Guides, or evolved spiritual beings, which he claims have played an influential role in spiritual matters and growth throughout his life. According to Edward, while he had been aware of the presence of these guides since he was a child, he failed to interpret their identity until age sixteen when he underwent a past life regression under the guidance of Shelley Peck. Apparently the regression went in an unexpected direction, and Edward’s spirit guides appeared to him. He claims to have a total of six guides: five “regular” guides, including a teenager and a monk, and a “master guide,” who appeared to Edward as a Native American. Master guides, as Edward has described, are assigned at birth to follow someone throughout the course of his or her life until crossing over into the spiritual
realm (Edward 1998). According to Edward, every person has Spirit Guides and is capable of communicating with them; however, most people must first undergo training in order to become sensitive to their presence and able to understand their messages.*
. . .] (2)
  1. thefullwiki.org/John_Edward
  2. wrs.vcu.edu/profiles/JohnEdward.htm
I’d like for you to give me a link (url) that I can see of the book he wrote that you state, “Practical Praying: Using the Rosary to Enhance Your Life.”
 
Hello logistics branch,
I have happily never heard of Edwards before today, however, just because he has rejected some of the Catholic stuff doesn't make him a quack.
 
I personally have no interest in it, but I don’t believe most of the stated effects either since I have never heard of a legitimate case (one that didn’t involve persons with other proven psychological issues or trauma). I’m not saying this about your family since I don’t know you. Personally I’d stay away just out of a sheer lack of interest and not wanting to lose my wallet
It wasn’t someone in my family, it was a young neighbor boy whose parents got him the “thing” innocently for Christmas and it ended up doing great harm to him and his family. Just ask a priest who does Exorcisms!!! The Church forbids them for a very serious reason!, God Bless, Memaw
 
But what would demons gain from giving people comfort and easing their pain and grief, as he does? If a demon is doing that, I’d say it’s a very kind one…
Yes - a kind demon who would lead people away from Jesus. 😦
 
Except in Edward’s case, quite the opposite is happening with the people he talks to.

So then…would you say that makes it angels involved instead of demons?

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You are obviously a true believer in Edwards & his friends, so I’ll just let you be. I’m not sure why you’re writing in a Catholic forum. Are you looking for converts?
 
before people fall for the claims of these spiritualists, occultists and mediums, i suggest they quiz them to find out how they know what spirit is communicating with them.

after all, the demons have knowledge of souls in this world and in the next. for that reason, a demon could easily deceive a human in this world without that human even realizing it.

again, how do any of those who claim to communicate with the dead prove what spirit is communicating with them?

they cannot and that is a very good reason to keep such people at a great distance from oneself.
 
Hello Eddie too,
When the Catholic church hierarchy made their list of which sins are mortal and which are menial, how do you know they weren't being influenced by a desire to list sins as mortal that would benefit the church?
 
if you conclude that the angel Gabriel was sent by satan to Mary instead of being sent by God, then it seems logical that Jesus was satan incarnated instead of God Incarnate.

since everything Jesus did was directed toward defeating satan and all satan’s efforts, a person would have to be quite retarded to conclude that the angel Gabriel was sent by satan.

however, if a person does not have faith in Jesus Christ, all of His teachings and works can be questioned and have been questioned. to those with faith, the questions are groundless because they display profound ignorance of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. answers to questions raised out of ignorance cannot satisfy the ignorant.

i believe Mary. you seem to doubt Mary. i believe Jesus. you seem to doubt Jesus. i believe Jesus conquered death, you seem to believe that satan made sure Jesus did not conquer death.

i could go on and on with reasons for believing it is absurd to think that our salvation came from satan as you imply.

the fact that you cannot understand that it was Eternal Goodness that became Incarnate in Jesus Christ is a very poor reason for attributing evil to the Mother of God and our Incarnate Lord.

of course doubters can reverse the question as you have done, it is a quite common debating trick. on the other hand, the support for the goodness and glory that come through Gabriel’s message to Mary satisfies me as to its source even if it does not satisfy you.

on the other hand, do we have reasons to doubt whether the mediums and their variously named counterparts can convincingly demonstrate who it is in the spirit world with whom they are claiming to communicate?

we do. what reasons? you have to pay most of them for their efforts. you have to disobey Jesus to engage them. their words are as easily judged made up or imaginary as they could be judged real. they cannot know the source of the voices they hear. they prey on people who are extremely distraught, easy targets so to speak. many have been exposed as frauds who use magic and carnival mentalism techniques to confuse and deceive.

still, it all comes down to how do they know who is communicating with them?

the clever trick of reversing the question merely avoided answering it. the trick itself provide no answer.

if you would like to try again i will ask again, how do they, you or anyone else know for sure who they are communicating with?

unless they can prove who they are communicating with, why believe what they say is important or true?

satan most certainly would be pleased if he could convince humans there is a different God given means besides Jesus Christ for reaching Him.

since Jesus is God and Jesus came to give us Life, if mentalists and mediums were needed for salvation, Jesus would have given them to us.
 
Hello Eddie too,
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 When the Catholic church hierarchy made their list of which sins are mortal and which are menial, how do you know they weren't being influenced by a desire to list sins as mortal that would benefit the church?
You gotta be kiddin!!! God Bless, Memaw
 
You gotta be kiddin!!! God Bless, Memaw
No, Ma’am, I don’t think he is.

I would submit that some ‘mediums’ have an ability to possess and prove true knowledge they can in no natural (5 senses) way claim. That doesn’t mean where they get that knowledge isn’t suspect, at best, and demonic, at worst.There is good reason the Church says the faithful should have no recourse to mediums, instead of saying, “hey, guys, that’s fake”.

And another thing: God is sovereign. So, He gets to use even our mistakes to benefit us or draw us to Himself, should He so choose. Just because a certain medium may provoke people back to their Christian or Catholic roots does not mean they aren’t swimming in grave matter (pun intended) 🤷.
 
I was out with a friend today who is involved in all that psychic stuff. Out of nowhere she started saying she sensed my grandfather and aunt watching over me. Since I didn’t ask her to do this, did I commit a sin. I wasn’t inviting it, she just kept going on about it.
 
I was out with a friend today who is involved in all that psychic stuff. Out of nowhere she started saying she sensed my grandfather and aunt watching over me. Since I didn’t ask her to do this, did I commit a sin. I wasn’t inviting it, she just kept going on about it.
So you talked to Teresa Caputo? I noticed your location LOL.

She usually has the camera rolling so you better go to confession as someone will see it and interpret it as you entertaining it. :rotfl:
 
Great discussion! It is important that we treat each other’s responses with respect. There are many who are here, like me, who are not Catholics but wanting to learn about its teachings along with the other non-Catholics who post in this forum.

John wrote:
1 John 4:1 Testing the Spirits
1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you know the Spirit of God: ***every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;…

I’ve been watching some YouTube videos of people who had near death experiences (NDE’s). Several of them, after the experience, have become empathic meaning that they either become mediums or psychics.

I’ve discussed the NDE’s with others and I get varied opinions as to if it was a real experience or not. The majority of these people felt their soul come out from the body and could tell in detail what was going on in the varied experiences.

I find it all interesting but I want to weigh these stories against what Scripture tells us.

God bless all,

Rita
 
Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I just found out that my spouse was planning on attending a “Live Event” with the Long Island Medium person. I was always taught that anything to do with physicist, readings, etc was strictly prohibited by the Church. I brought this up…and mentioned I though it was against our faith, but was met with quite a bit of resistance…and that it was really no big deal. Now I come to find out the Medium is supposedly Catholic?

I certainly won’t be going,…but and not sure what (if anything more) I should do/say… Confused…?
 
Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I just found out that my spouse was planning on attending a “Live Event” with the Long Island Medium person. I was always taught that anything to do with physicist, readings, etc was strictly prohibited by the Church. I brought this up…and mentioned I though it was against our faith, but was met with quite a bit of resistance…and that it was really no big deal. Now I come to find out the Medium is supposedly Catholic?

I certainly won’t be going,…but and not sure what (if anything more) I should do/say… Confused…?
I would voice my displeasure in it, and even quote the catechism for those practicing Catholics who think it’s no big deal. Then wash your hands - you are responsible for your soul, first and foremost.

Not saying anything is omission and that can sinful as well depending on the circumstances.

In regards to these “mediums” who claim to be Catholics, this sounds harsh but if they knowingly are doing this stuff even after learning of the Churches’ teachings against it, then they are heretics, plain and simple. The bible teaches against it and so does the Catechism. Not sure how many sources need to tell people no before they finally listen. 🤷
 
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