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PJM
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NICE Idea but ain’t likely to happen as there Origin is Satanic, like withcraft.
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Loboto-Me
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That passage always had me stumped because here she was giving the Apostles accolades and telling everyone to listen to them, yet (was it Peter or Paul?) told her to be quiet and to go away. It’s a pretty confusing passage.
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valentino
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He descended to the upper part of Hell.That’s all I can remember.
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pira114
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Ok, I should have clarified my question better. I know there are a great many references to Angels, Demons, and Hell in the bible. But are there any related to regular men interacting with demons or spirits?
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HNA444
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What about people who do things “for fun”, because i hear of and know a lot of Catholics who say it’s just for fun, but in my opinion i think they believe it or want to believe it.
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praxising
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I agree with your mom, after much research, that psychism is a trait. It certainly seems to have a genetic component and run in families and with the research they are doing on it, I imagine at some point science will come up with a more neutral name for it than “psychic” and all the talk of demons and such will fade away in time.
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praxising
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Not sure about demons, but after the Crucifixion when the spirits of the dead appeared it says their families recognized them, that would be regular folks.
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PJM
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CERTAINLY!
Matt.7: 22 On that day many will say to me, `Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’
Matt.8:16 That evening they brought to him many who were possessed with demons; and he cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were sick. 31 And the demons begged him, “If you cast us out, send us away into the herd of swine.”
Matt.10; 8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying, give without pay.
Matt.12: 24 But when the Pharisees heard it they said, “It is only by Be-el’zebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.” 27 And if I cast out demons by Be-el’zebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
Mark.1: 32 That evening, at sundown, they brought to him all who were sick or possessed with demons. 34 And he healed many who were sick with various diseases, and cast out many demons; and he would not permit the demons to speak, because they knew him. [39 And he went throughout all Galilee, preaching in their synagogues and casting out demons.
Luke.9: ***1 And he called the twelve together and gave them power and authority over all demons and to cure diseases, *
ACTS ;5-12 “When they arrived at Sal’amis, they proclaimed the word of God in the synagogues of the Jews. And they had John to assist them. When they had gone through the whole island as far as Paphos, they came upon a certain magician, a Jewish false prophet, named Bar-Jesus. He was with the proconsul, Sergius Paulus, a man of intelligence, who summoned Barnabas and Saul and sought to hear the word of God. But El’ymas the magician (for that is the meaning of his name) withstood them, seeking to turn away the proconsul from the faith. But Saul, who is also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked intently at him and said, “You son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, full of all deceit and villainy, will you not stop making crooked the straight paths of the Lord? And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon you, and you shall be blind and unable to see the sun for a time.” Immediately mist and darkness fell upon him and he went about seeking people to lead him by the hand. Then the proconsul believed, when he saw what had occurred, for he was astonished at the teaching of the Lord.”
ACTS 8:5-13 [5] Philip went down to a city of Sama’ria, and proclaimed to them the Christ. And the multitudes with one accord gave heed to what was said by Philip, when they heard him and saw the signs which he did. For unclean spirits came out of many who were possessed, crying with a loud voice; and many who were paralyzed or lame were healed. So there was much joy in that city. But there was a man named Simon who had previously practiced magic in the city and amazed the nation of Sama’ria, saying that he himself was somebody great. They all gave heed to him, from the least to the greatest, saying, “This man is that power of God which is called Great.”
And they gave heed to him, because for a long time he had amazed them with his magic.
But when they believed Philip as he preached good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Even Simon himself believed, and after being baptized he continued with Philip. And seeing signs and great miracles performed, he was amazed."
HOPE this gets you what your looking for,
God Bless,
Pat
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KEVIN_WILCOX
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Our knowledge and economia on the devil has undergone some developmental change throughout history.So has our understanding of the angels !
No I’m not getting modernist on you - just saying it’s worth doing some research.
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KEVIN_WILCOX
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There are different levels of Hell, the level of Hell being referred to is a place called Sheol, the place of the dead - Moses and co. were there waiting.
Dante in his Divine Comedy makes mention of it.
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KEVIN_WILCOX
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Matthew 4:1 for starters.
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KEVIN_WILCOX
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The children at Fatima threw holy water at Our Lady. I was advised by a priest to always carry holy water with me.
Always doubt that a spirit comes from God - Our Lord advises us to test them. I remember St Padre Pio being visited by “strange” friars whom he would pray with, before he came to the end of the Our Father, they were gone.
Some servants of God physically fight with the devil. In one friary there were some very strange noises at night, and some very strange happenings.
The devil is more to be pitied than anything else.
You can sometimes tell where a spirit/creature comes from. If they’re from heaven a light comes from them; from hell light seems to be diminished around them, it’s as though it were becoming sucked into grayness.
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KEVIN_WILCOX
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Those who were possessed that Jesus freed I presume they were your regular type.
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pira114
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PJM,
Thank you! So now I have to ask, is there any Scriptural reference to support God giving regular people the ability to do what we call Psychic powers? Talk to the dead, see the future, bend spoons, whatever. In other words, is there anything in the Bible that would suggest Psychic powers are NOT demonic in origin?
Thank you! So now I have to ask, is there any Scriptural reference to support God giving regular people the ability to do what we call Psychic powers? Talk to the dead, see the future, bend spoons, whatever. In other words, is there anything in the Bible that would suggest Psychic powers are NOT demonic in origin?
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KEVIN_WILCOX
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All the way through the Old Testament (e,g. Moses parting the Red Sea and Elijah raising the dead, etc.) through the New Testament (e.g. speaking in tongues at Pentecost, and the Acts of the Apostles)
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InspiritCarol
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Maybe I missed it, but the most significant aspect of gifts of the Spirit which must never be overlooked or forgotton is that they are given to us to glorify GOD alone.
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105lynne
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I used to watch Montel Williams show and every week they had psychic Sylvia Browne. I loved watching and was fascinated on her “accuracy”. One day during a commercial break, I heard a voice (not with my ears, but in my head/heart) that said “Jesus is not pleased by this woman. Do not watch such evil…” I personally think it was the Blessed Mother telling me to turn the tv off. I never watched it again. The deceiving thing for me was that she talked about angels. Then again, at the same time, she talked about reincarnation, too. Anyway, the point is that I personally felt warned to not watch or listen to such things…so I don’t!
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BluesPicker
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Some people have what is believed to be residual gifts that were possessed but lost after the Fall. They can see into or sense the spiritual realmn. This also makes them more open to spiritual attacks by the devil… So open to attacks that the few I know would even consider this a gift rather is is a cross that they bear. They are constantly worried that they are possessed or will be possessed. Some help in exorcisms and are recognized by the Church as religious seers. Hardly a person other than their spiritual director and other members of the deliverance team knows about this ability. They live very humble lives.
God Bless You All,
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However, there are people that appear to be in familar relationships with evil spirits. They appear on TV shows giving details about dead relatives from information obtained by communicating with evil spirits.
People should avoid listening to these TV seers. Also there are many horrible videos on Youtube where demons apparently are speaking through people. Life is hard enough without listening to demons that probably are cursing everyone..
I sprained my groin muscles and reinjured my knee, my calf muscles are spasmed and my foot is numb so I didn't or surely don't feel like writing much especially on this topic at this time. That is because to do justice I would have cite my sources of reference..BP
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Carolyn_Widhalm
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Because she was possessed Paul did not want even her accolades. Jesus often did the same when a demon proclaimed him the the Son of God. He does not need the help of demons. And Paul got annoyed because, I think, people would be paying attention to what the girl was saying and her powers instead of listening to the gospel.
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praxising
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LOL! Jesus did those things, except bend spoons. Psychics do not bend spoons. People in Jersualem saw and I think spoke with the dead at the Crucifixion. Peter in Acts knew a man and his wife were witholding money from the group. The dreams of the future were commonplace.
It’s just a trait. Like singing. Some people are very good at it, some can’t carry a tune. It has nothing to do with the supernatural. Unless you are Saint Joan, I suppose.
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