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I know…sorry.I did not mean to quote you and when I attempted to clear it up I just double posted. I just let it be until the response came. Sorry.
A relative of mine had a dream in which a family friend died, with very specific details regarding his death. He died soon after in the same manner as she saw in her dream.I do believe by praying to God, we will receive wisdom in how to act. However, I just don’t see any good or any point in a priest stating 'there is someone here who survived a car accident
I could write a thesis here about the authenticity of supernatural visions; anyone else could do so as well, who has read either St. John of the Cross or St. Teresa of Avila who both wrote about them in detail. These gifts of “imaginary” visions do occur as God wills, for the purpose that He sends them. To attribute these to satanic influence or merely psychic hallucinations is unworthy of God or the person who receives them. It is not our place to judge or put the seal of the underworld on everything according to our finite and limited understanding. True visions are not against the teaching of the Church, but we are warned not to seek or to desire them.First, please correct me if I am wrong but I am under the impression that psychic visions are against the teaching of the Catholic Church.
I agree, now as a Catholic I would pray for the repose of their souls. By the time I “knew” the person had already passed. The calls came later.Having foreknowledge about somebody’s impending death may be an urging to pray for that person who may be in much need of it during the hour of their death. That is especially the time the devil is prowling to gain that soul. Our Lord asked St. Faustina in many of his revelations to her, that she pray very often for the dying, especially with the chaplet he taught her.
Just a few hours before my husband died, I was suddenly moved to pray this chaplet for him and I did so with deep fervor. I had no idea he was to die that afternoon, but I trust my prayer was God’s way of bringing holy intercession for his passing.
Okey-dokey! You know, I was trying to quote someone the other day, and the software kept putting the wrong quote in. Maybe something is going on.I know…sorry.I did not mean to quote you and when I attempted to clear it up I just double posted. I just let it be until the response came. Sorry.
You know, people quote this endlessly as if it is supposed to be the answer to any question about psychic experience or visions or encounters with people who have passed.
But it doesn’t.
It doesn’t address all the things in Scripture, in the lives of the Saints and the regular person who experiences these things.
No one is talking about running off to get their palms read. I think it has to be okay to actually discuss being psychic. Especially because psychism in many people increases in direct proportion to the amount of prayer you do.
It’s not like people ask for it.
Forgive me for asking and I mean no disrespect but how do you suppose one can easily shrug off a teaching of the Church in regards to (“psychic interpretations”).You know, people quote this endlessly as if it is supposed to be the answer to any question about psychic experience or visions or encounters with people who have passed.
But it doesn’t.
I didn’t say anything about “shrugging off” any teaching. Also, those CCC paras don’t address a person, themselves, being psychic or interpretations.Forgive me for asking and I mean no disrespect but how do you suppose one can easily shrug off a teaching of the Church in regards to (“psychic interpretations”).
Of course it’s secular. So is “genius” or “left-handedness.”The term itself sounds more relativistically secular.
Actually, I think we all do this all the time. We pray. We have an issue we don’t know how to resolve. Then, an idea comes into our minds accompanied by a sense of peace. Are we supposed to go find an official interpreter? No, of course not. But this is a supernatural communication as surely as Saint Faustina seeing a deceased sister or someone dreaming the death of their grandmother.Very select few in the Church are given official authority to interpret “supernatural” spiritual prophecy, locutions and even apparitions themselves.
I have to say, I am also not fond of this “Satan” idea always being posted along with the CCC paras. God isn’t a trickster and we aren’t idiots. Saint Paul didn’t run away from Jesus screaming because he might have been being fooled by Satan. This kind of talk can discourage a person from seeking an intimate personal connected with God.Satan is a master at deception and illusion.
No one is doing that. I am in complete agreement that no one should try “conjuring spirits.” Mostly because you can’t and if you think you can, then that would be evil influence.Church teachings are very clear on this matter and can’t simply be diminished or watered down to allow dissensions or other personal interpretations.
I agree. But it’s hard to do that if we can’t even discuss it. And it’s hard to understand our own unusual moments if we cannot share our experiences.Those who claim they have psychic visions, prophecies, locutions, etc should always be called into question. As Catholics we must test everything by its fruits.
OK, I don’t think my point is being understood. When you relative had a dream that a family friend was about to die, the event was going to happen in the future. That makes sense to me because God is giving us a chance to pray for the person (as others have mentioned) or go get a priest to give the last rights. God is calling us to action and I believe that is genuine.A relative of mine had a dream in which a family friend died, with very specific details regarding his death. He died soon after in the same manner as she saw in her dream.
I don’t really understand what good came out of her having that dream either. She certainly didn’t stop it from occurring.
I think both of these cases are examples of when you just have to trust that God has a plan and a purpose, even if you don’t immediately understand what it is. Perhaps it’s simply to instill more faith and belief in God.
I agree with Sirach, it depends on what happened next. The priest may have known why they were saved, and the Holy Spirit might have wanted them to know and believe when told…However, when the priest said ‘someone in this church survived a car accident’, that is a statement about the past. It is a done deal and there is no longer anything anyone can do so it is pointless. Do people get the difference? Of course we can still pray for the person but by then, the death is commone knowledge and no need for a vision
Do people see the difference?