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Is psychology as we know it really a science? To be a science I think that reasoning has to meet the philosophic definition of a science. Which would include scientific method. Has psychology met scientific method? Feminism doesn’t seem to have any epistemic reasoning so it might not even be philosophy but just political rhetoric.

Any one know?
 
Is psychology as we know it really a science? To be a science I think that reasoning has to meet the philosophic definition of a science. Which would include scientific method. Has psychology met scientific method? Feminism doesn’t seem to have any epistemic reasoning so it might not even be philosophy but just political rhetoric.

Any one know?
Don’t confuse psychology, the academic field, with pop psychology. Feminism is more of a sociological (or even anthropological) construct than a psychological one anyway.

Real psychological research exists and is practiced by real psychology researchers using the scientific method. I have an undergrad in psychology and a graduate degree in business. The stats I had to learn for psych to develop research methodologies and to validate results blew the stats for business school out of the water.
 
Feminism is not psychological or scientific, it is a political movement. More a buzzword than anything else, these days, really.

Psychology – “the study of the soul”, literally – is as much a science as any of the other “social sciences.”

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Is psychology as we know it really a science?

Maybe you could define psychology as **you **know it. Let’s go to a dictionary and get a definition or two:
  1. the science of the mind or of mental states and processes.
  2. the science of human and animal behavior.
I’ve never had a problem accepting the idea that psychology is a valid science. Now, I’m not sure what feminism has to do with psychology or science. Again, going to the dictionary, feminism is defined as …
  1. the doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women equal to those of men.
  2. an organized movement for the attainment of such rights for women.
  3. feminine character.
I do not ascribe to that particular doctrine, do not belong to that movement, and although I am definitely feminine I would consider it an insult to be called a feminist because I strongly disagree with the way most feminists go about advocating for so-called women’s rights while trampling upon the rights of men and babies.
 
Feminism is not psychological or scientific, it is a political movement. More a buzzword than anything else, these days, really.

Psychology – “the study of the soul”, literally – is as much a science as any of the other “social sciences.”

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I have seen comments like “political science” too. To me politics might be a philosophy but is there anything their that can be put through the model of scientific method? I don’t think so so that would be a misnomer I would think.
 
Is psychology as we know it really a science?

Maybe you could define psychology as **you **know it. Let’s go to a dictionary and get a definition or two:
  1. the science of the mind or of mental states and processes.
  2. the science of human and animal behavior.
I’ve never had a problem accepting the idea that psychology is a valid science. Now, I’m not sure what feminism has to do with psychology or science. Again, going to the dictionary, feminism is defined as …
  1. the doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women equal to those of men.
  2. an organized movement for the attainment of such rights for women.
  3. feminine character.
I do not ascribe to that particular doctrine, do not belong to that movement, and although I am definitely feminine I would consider it an insult to be called a feminist because I strongly disagree with the way most feminists go about advocating for so-called women’s rights while trampling upon the rights of men and babies.
I would say that women are equal to men in dignity. Certainly not in identity. But what is feminism exactly trying to attain and what have they really attained. Number 1 sounds like it could upset female identity.
 
Feminism is not psychological or scientific, it is a political movement. More a buzzword than anything else, these days, really.

Psychology – “the study of the soul”, literally – is as much a science as any of the other “social sciences.”

ICXC NIKA
I’ve never ascribed psychology with the soul. There is “Philosophy of Mind” which includes metaphysics.
 
I’ve never ascribed psychology with the soul.
Maybe not, but the term derives from Greek psyche (soul).

Prior to the Freudian revolution in the 1800s, the operations of the human mind were ascribed to the “rational soul.”

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I would hope that everybody on this forum is a feminist-humanist, that they wouldn’t blink an eye at the idea of being called one, and that they are proud to be one.
Well, that all depends. To the extent that Feminists support abortion and pretty much always have since the 60s, I wouldn’t call myself a feminist.

Feminism has also tended to deny the differences between men and women, which are profound. You never hear a feminist arguing that women should be allowed to participate in trench warfare along with men. So I think there’s a bit of hypocrisy with that equal rights argument.

As for the differences in pay, that is largely a matter of women choosing lesser paying jobs than men, and also not working full time. So when you put all those factors together, the stats can be misleading about unfair wages.

In cases where men and women are doing exactly the same work and the same hours that require the same profession training, I would call myself not a feminist, but an equal rights advocate.

Men and women are different. Long live the difference! 😃
 
Well, that all depends. To the extent that Feminists support abortion and pretty much always have since the 60s, I wouldn’t call myself a feminist.

Feminism has also tended to deny the differences between men and women, which are profound. You never hear a feminist arguing that women should be allowed to participate in trench warfare along with men. So I think there’s a bit of hypocrisy with that equal rights argument.

As for the differences in pay, that is largely a matter of women choosing lesser paying jobs than men, and also not working full time. So when you put all those factors together, the stats can be misleading about unfair wages.

In cases where men and women are doing exactly the same work and the same hours that require the same profession training, I would call myself not a feminist, but an equal rights advocate.

Men and women are different. Long live the difference! 😃
Well take a job at construction for example. A woman can do that kind of work as far as doing it. but there are physical differences. Men have 10 times more testosterone and so it would simply take a woman 10 times effort (I would think) to do for example heavy lifting of things like concrete, block, or shingles.

There seems to be this attitude also that for some reason a woman “has a right” to say whether or not she wants a baby. So just don’t have one. But they justify abortion with that comment.
 
Is psychology as we know it really a science? To be a science I think that reasoning has to meet the philosophic definition of a science. Which would include scientific method. Has psychology met scientific method? Feminism doesn’t seem to have any epistemic reasoning so it might not even be philosophy but just political rhetoric.

Any one know?
Psychology is an empirical science, and there are many branches. Behaviorism neuro-psych, deveopmental( which includes birth until old age), educational, occupational, personality to name a few.
As you look at behaviorism, think of pavlov’s dogs and the scientific method used to determine conditioning. As you look at a developmental milestone chart for a child-this was determined using using the scientific method.
Feminism is not a branch of psychology, it is a personality manisfestation.
 
Well, that all depends. To the extent that Feminists support abortion and pretty much always have since the 60s, I wouldn’t call myself a feminist.
Point taken.

And since current-day feminists are by and large man-eating female supremacists, I wouldn’t call myself one, either.

However, abortion is not a priori part of feminism; the early feminists in the early and mid 1900s opposed it.

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Well take a job at construction for example. A woman can do that kind of work as far as doing it. but there are physical differences. Men have 10 times more testosterone and so it would simply take a woman 10 times effort (I would think) to do for example heavy lifting of things like concrete, block, or shingles.
I can’t really tell if you are being serious or not. Just in case though:

Gender dichotomy would be a pretty poor line down which to make that assessment. Whether a male or a female some one is either capable or not capable of a job. A randomly selected male is not necessarily more capable than a randomly selected female. If that is applied as a bias to individual candidates it could unjustly put someone at a disadvantage.

I’m familiar with a couple of employers with jobs that involve lifting significant masses; Delta Airlines and UPS. Both of which have defined a weight that an employee must be able to lift to have one of these positions; a female isn’t considered 1/X as capable and filtered out of the list of candidates.
 
I can’t really tell if you are being serious or not. Just in case though:

Gender dichotomy would be a pretty poor line down which to make that assessment. Whether a male or a female some one is either capable or not capable of a job. A randomly selected male is not necessarily more capable than a randomly selected female. If that is applied as a bias to individual candidates it could unjustly put someone at a disadvantage.

I’m familiar with a couple of employers with jobs that involve lifting significant masses; Delta Airlines and UPS. Both of which have defined a weight that an employee must be able to lift to have one of these positions; a female isn’t considered 1/X as capable and filtered out of the list of candidates.
Still, when I look out over this construction site from my office window, I don’t see any women doing the work out there.
 
Still, when I look out over this construction site from my office window, I don’t see any women doing the work out there.
Don’t confuse the gender distribution with the level of qualification that an applicant has because of their gender.
 
It’s not gender per se but physical ability.
An individuals physical abilities for jobs that demand it would be relevant. Also take note that a lot of construction related jobs don’t require that one do a lot of heavy lifting (welding, electrical work, so on…).
 
An individuals physical abilities for jobs that demand it would be relevant. Also take note that a lot of construction related jobs don’t require that one do a lot of heavy lifting (welding, electrical work, so on…).
Women did all manner of physical jobs during the WW2 period.

For that matter, the BVM walked the length of Israel (Galilee to Jerusalem, some 70 mi or 110 km) on an ongoing basis.

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Is psychology as we know it really a science? To be a science I think that reasoning has to meet the philosophic definition of a science. Which would include scientific method. Has psychology met scientific method? Feminism doesn’t seem to have any epistemic reasoning so it might not even be philosophy but just political rhetoric.

Any one know?
Psychology is considered a social science. That being said, there are humanistic psychologies (e.g. Freudian and Jungian Psychology).
 
Women did all manner of physical jobs during the WW2 period.

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Yes, my mother was a welder who worked at welding chain links for the U.S. Navy. She worked very hard and was well paid.

But after the war she was glad to give up her job.

It was a labor of love, patriotism, and necessity (not desire) that brought her to that job.
 
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