Publisher/Edition of 1962 Missal

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I am planning on buying a 1962 missal and I need help with what publisher/edition to buy. The reason for the discernment has only to do with which edition has good descriptive detail of when the proper moments are to make the sign of the cross, genuflect, kneel, strike chest, etc. I know these can be learned easily by watching others, but I have been getting the feeling that many of the people at the low mass I go to imitate the actions of the priest more then what might be called for in the missal (I could be wrong) but I don’t want to imitate gestures just because a majority of people do them (there’s more than enough of that in the Ordinary form).

I haven’t had a chance to compare editions since the bookstore has them plastic wrapped and you can’t flip pages online.

Any help would be appreciated.

On a side note I am so happy to have begun to attend daily low mass. That’s why I’m shopping for a missal. There is a church right on my way to work that has it daily 6:30 in the morning. What a way to start the day. Thanks be to God.
 
I have heard good things about Anglus Press and Baronius Press 1962 Roman Missal. I would suggest going to their websites and comparing reviews. If I had to make off hand I would go with the Baronius Press because I have had good luck with them, but that don’t mean a thing. At home I have a Marian Children’s Missal which indicates when to sit, kneel or stand. Which is helpful and it in the back it has the Dialogue mass issued according to Pope Pius XII encyclical Mediator Dei, which is was before the 1962 Roman Missal though.
 
I have the Angelus Press one that was reviewed in the link. 👍 no complaints here.
 
I checked out Fr. Z’s reviews. Both were very good. I like the relative compactness of the Baronius missal and I very much liked the comentary side notes on the Angelus Press Missal. So I shall gladly buy them both. Again, thanks for the info and links.

+JMJ+
 
I have the Baronius and have been really happy with it though it does not have the explicit instructions where to sit/stand/kneel and when the bells are rung.

One good resource are those red “easy-to-read” missals with the ordinary of the Mass. They are a really good place to start and have photos of the Priest next to the text on each page so that you can learn the different parts of the Mass, the proper responses and how to follow along. They’re usually available at most TLM parishes and you can usually purchase or borrow them to take home. That’s how I started and then later on was given the one that I have now.
 
One more important question which I forgot to ask. Can these missals be used for both Sunday and weekday mass or are there separate missals for Sunday and for weekday mass?

+JMJ +
 
The Angelus has both Sundays and weekdays. I can’t comment on the Baronius press one since I don’t have it.
 
Extempore said:
I have the Baronius and have been really happy with it though it does not have the explicit instructions where to sit/stand/kneel and when the bells are rung.

One good resource are those red “easy-to-read” missals with the ordinary of the Mass. They are a really good place to start and have photos of the Priest next to the text on each page so that you can learn the different parts of the Mass, the proper responses and how to follow along. They’re usually available at most TLM parishes and you can usually purchase or borrow them to take home. That’s how I started and then later on was given the one that I have now.
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Does the Baronius Press one have a section with the ordinary with instructions? The Angelus has this in the middle around 800 pages in.
 
Cider said:
Does the Baronius Press one have a section with the ordinary with instructions? The Angelus has this in the middle around 800 pages in.
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There is the ordinary in the middle with the translations but no explicit instructions as to when to sit, kneel, etc. The closest thing is during the Credo and Last Gospel where the words are italicized where one should kneel.

This is why I would suggest something else for someone who would rather have those instructions there to begin with, and once you grow used to it, to purchase a Baronius as, in all other respects, it really is quite excellent and comprehensive.

Edit: Here is the link with more detailed information. It does not indicate (nor have I found in mine) that there are specific instructions for the ordinary.

baroniuspress.com/book.php?wid=56&bid=4
 
Good to know, thank you. The Angelus Press Missal has red instructions for when to cross, bow, strike your breast and notes on what the priest is doing also.
 
Ruben said:
Hello,

I am planning on buying a 1962 missal and I need help with what publisher/edition to buy. The reason for the discernment has only to do with which edition has good descriptive detail of when the proper moments are to make the sign of the cross, genuflect, kneel, strike chest, etc. I know these can be learned easily by watching others, but I have been getting the feeling that many of the people at the low mass I go to imitate the actions of the priest more then what might be called for in the missal (I could be wrong) but I don’t want to imitate gestures just because a majority of people do them (there’s more than enough of that in the Ordinary form).

I haven’t had a chance to compare editions since the bookstore has them plastic wrapped and you can’t flip pages online.

Any help would be appreciated.

On a side note I am so happy to have begun to attend daily low mass. That’s why I’m shopping for a missal. There is a church right on my way to work that has it daily 6:30 in the morning. What a way to start the day. Thanks be to God.
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I’ll echo the Angelus Press. It’s a good missal, very easy to use, has everything you’ll need for Mass attendance, has the sacraments, and a has very good section of prayers.

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I have both of them and between the two, I like the Angelus Press one much better for many reasons.
 
The beauty of classical use hand missals is that the Sundays and Weekdays all fit into a single volume. There are smaller Sunday Missals, but I have yet to encounter one just for weekdays.

The Missal printed by Angelus Press is based on the “Ideal Daily Missal”, while the Baronius is based on the “Daily Missal and Liturgical Manual”. Both these root sources are by the same compiler (Sylvester P. Juergens S.M, S.T.D.) and as such are highly similar. That being said, both Baronius and Angelus have added their own distinctive features.

The Baronius one has a beautiful excerpt by Dom. Prosper Gueranger on the liturgy just before the Ordinary of the Mass. The Luminous Mysteries of the Rosary and Divine Mercy Chapletare listed and the 1983 Code of Canon Law regarding the Eucharistic Fast. The supplements for feasts in Dioceses in the US, UK (England, Wales and Scotland), Australia and New Zealand have been included as well. Moveable Feastdays are listed until 2066. In newer editions the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum has been added at the front and if I recall correctly, stickers have been included for the revised Good Friday Prayers for the conversion of the Jews.

On the other hand the Angelus Missal includes very substantial commentary within the Ordinary of the Mass and the Prefaces are placed in between the Ordinary rather than at the front. The devotions found the the front follow the “Ideal Daily Missal”. The 1983 Code of Canon Law is quoted for the Eucharistic Fast and reference is also made to the older 1953 Apostolic Constitution. The Litany of Humility by Rafael Cardinal Merry del Val. Also included at the back are the Sacraments of Baptism, Confirmation and extreme untion. An extended prayer to Saint Michael the Archangel may be found at the back as well as in the Minor Exorcism in English and the Athansian Creed. Only the supplements for the US are included and the moveable feastdays listing is until 2050.

In terms of the typeset, the Angelus Missal uses a larger font size and has more white space. However, the Baronius does include a more beautiful Kyriale from nocturale.de.

In terms of the exterior, the Baronius Missal has a beautiful embossed IHS on the cover. 6 ribbon markers are provided. The Angelus one uses 5 thicker sation ribbon markers. The Angelus is slightly bigger than the Baronius but much thinner than the older print and still slightly thinner than the Baronius. In terms of weight the older Baronius prints feel slightly lighter and the newer ones should be around the feel around same weight (or heavier) as the Angelus. Angelus Press also sells a missal cover for their Missal, and tbe Baronius one is available in Black, White and Red.

A rough feature comparison of different missals for the traditional mass can be found on southwellbooks.com/#missalguide. Full descriptions can be found on each of the publisher’s websites. baroniuspress.com/book.php?wid=56&bid=4 and angeluspress.org/oscatalog/item/8043/1962-roman-catholic-daily-missal

Which is better? Its like comparing apples and oranges. Personally I prefer antique missals, cause they are very much lighter, thinner and smaller. But then again missals from the '60s have the Kyriale in modern notation.
 
I have the Angelus Press missal. My only complaint is that, to save space, instead of printing all the Proper prayers of the day together, they often refer you to other days (i.e., other sections of the missal) to pick up a reading if it is the same as today’s reading. In other words, they won’t print the reading if it’s the same one that is used somewhere else during the year, they’ll just tell you to go to that page. This flipping back and forth can be annoying. Other than that, the missal is great.

Can anyone with the Baronius missal tell me if it has the same problem?
 
Interesting that Angelus includes directions for the laity-- in fact, the Mass is written entirely without directions for the congregation (you can have Mass without them, after all). Instructions were written for the choir (think of a monastic arrangement where the choir stalls sit sideways in front of the pews for the laity), and the laity just started doing whatever they did. There’s no directions for me, as a laymen in the pews, to do anything.

Some people tell me that they can’t follow Mass from chapel to chapel, some stand when others kneel and whatnot. Sometimes the church itself is divided with some people sitting and some people standing.
 
WhollyRoamin said:
Some people tell me that they can’t follow Mass from chapel to chapel, some stand when others kneel and whatnot. Sometimes the church itself is divided with some people sitting and some people standing.
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The postures of the congregation are dependant at times on the local custom and are not really fixed. Some places you stand when the Gospel is proclaimed in English before the Homily, some places you don’t. etc. In general if a missalette is provided, it would do good to refer to it for the postures. Or if like for the case of the proclamation of the Gospel in the vernacular, obey what the Priest says. This flexibility has its benefits, and although confusing to the unitiated, it does represent the different means one can interiorly participate.
 
cam100 said:
Can anyone with the Baronius missal tell me if it has the same problem?
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The need to page flip is exactly the same for both the Baronius and the Angelus. This is especially the case for less common Masses, so holy picture cards would really come in handy. If a proper sheets is provided, just follow it.

Well there are missals with for example the Epistle and Gospel only in the vernacular. These tend to have much less page flipping gymnastics. The Marian Missal is is by the same compiler and has this feature.

There is however, no real need to follow the whole missal word for word. Interiorise what happens, when and its is possible to participate in the sacrifice without referring to anything.

Rule of thumb if you want to follow the Mass with the Missal. Mark the pages before Mass not during 😉
 
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