Purpose Driven Life Experience in Orlando

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First off, forgive me on two counts - 1) if this is the wrong forum for this discussion and 2) yes, it’s another PDL thread. Bear with me…there’s a reason for this

There is a major market blitz happening in Central Florida called "The Purpose Driven Life Experience. " It’s a coordinated effort between Rick Warren and churches of all denominations throughout Central FL to embark upon the “40 day spiritual journey.” If you’ve never heard about this before, there’s probably good reason - Orlando is the guinea pig. If it’s successful (by Rick Warren’s standards I guess…and from the looks of things it will be), you could probably expect to see this coming to your community in the next year or two. That’s one of the stated goals at least.

The program is based off of the “Small Christian Communities” model that is very popular with some of our Protestant bretheren. The idea is that small groups of 8-10 people will read the book, and meet once a week for 6 weeks in somebody’s home to discuss the book.

My parish is one of two Catholic parishes in the Diocese of Orlando to sign on to participate in the program. To say that I am not thrilled is an understatement. I share most of the opinions voiced in the other threads I’ve read on “The Puddle” as some of us have taken to reffering to it as (weak/bad theology, painful Bible translations, feel good spirituality with no depth, etc). I feel that these errors are going to be greatly exaggerated by the structure of the program.

The meetings are designed to go like this - people read the book during the week, come to the meeting and watch a DVD video for the week done by none other than Rick Warren. Following that, each group is supposed to listen to a CD done by our pastor. We have not heard these (the thought is that the CDs might be done week to week) so we have no idea on how effective they’re going to be in giving the “Catholic view” on the book. Afterwards, people discuss. I should point out that the people who are the “hosts” have no requirement for formal catechetical training. In fact, this was listed as one of the selling points - you don’t have to teach anything, you just have to be willing to open your home to others. While I have not officially confirmed this, a number of people have told me that non-Catholics have signed up to be “hosts.”

So there’s basically no preparation for this - just a rush to sign up, get in a group, watch the videos, and discuss with the questions provided by, you guessed it, Rick Warren. It’s open to everyone - in fact, they’re particularly encouraging people to invite friends and neighbors who might not go to church at all. When asked if (and how) this was designed to bring people into the Catholic Church, the answer given was that it was not a goal of this program.

Finally, we recently discovered something about the funds that are brought in from purchases of the book. Supposedly, 90% of the proceeds from the book go to a few foundations set up by Rick Warren. There is an HIV/AIDS in Africa foundation that, while placing emphasis on abstience and faithfulness, considers condom use to be a valid “last resort” option, and distributes them accordingly. There is also a foundation that trains pastors in developing countries. So the money brought in by the book goes, in some manner or another, to supporting birth control and establishing more Protestant churches around the world.

Where does this leave everything? Well, I need some help. I know this is a long rant, and I hope some took the time to go through it. I’d like to know if I’m off base in my opposition to this program. Most concerns in other threads deal with an individual reading the book. Do you think this sort of set up increases or decreases the possible problems? What problems do you see that I’m missing? Are the problems described not that big of a deal? Are the concerns about the money valid, or is that nitpicking and pointless? Most importantly, what specific errors are the most problematic about the book, particularly in an unformed Catholic setting? Finally, do you think it is possible to do this book in a group setting in a manner that properly teaches and builds up understanding of the Church’s precepts?

I apologize for the length and all the questions. Any insight that anyone could provide would be much appreciated.
 
I have not read this book, partly because I see no reason to. My experience with most so-called “prosperity gospel” writings is that the theology is, in fact, off-target, and Bible verses are misinterpreted.

I think most people’s practical lives are the hectic messes they are – that is, to the extent that they are – because of their own inner confusions and contradictory ideas of who they are and why they are here.

If the purpose of Catholic participation in this thing is not to bring people into the Church, then what, exactly, IS the purpose? Seems like a pretty obvious question to ask in this context. What is the point of all this?

And if participation in this is going to fund Protestant evangelization and distribution of condoms, then I would say that, no, this is not something you should be involved with.
 
I would talk to the pastor about your concerns. I think it cannot possibly be permissible to participate in such a program. If you cannot do that, talk to the bishop. This is wholly inappropriate and alarming, frankly.
 
As if the Catholic Church has no programs worth presenting ?
Contact your diocese and see what is available or you nearest Franciscan Center.
 
To clarify, myself and a number of people have approached our pastor with diferent concerns about this entire program. The response has been less than helpful - the audio CDs I refer to are the only concession that has been allowed (and that is actually decreased from what was originally conceded - originally he was going to totally redo the Rick Warren DVDs, then it was decreased to tacking on a video to the end of the Rick Warren stuff, now down to an audio commentary). Any other objection has been met with a basic “darn the torpedos, full speed ahead” mentality.

I fully agree that there’s any number of far superior programs we could be doing in place of that. Unfortunately, this seems to be a case of attitude reflecting leadership.
 
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WordUpYo:
Any other objection has been met with a basic “darn the torpedos, full speed ahead” mentality.

I fully agree that there’s any number of far superior programs we could be doing in place of that. Unfortunately, this seems to be a case of attitude reflecting leadership.
Go to your pastor one more time in charity, sharing your very valid concerns.
If he is unreasonable, tell him you are going to the Bishop. And then DO IT.
This PDL is quite un-catholic, not to mention very light in any kind of scholasticism or just outright heretical.
 
tom.wineman said:
As if the Catholic Church has no programs worth presenting ?
Contact your diocese and see what is available or you nearest Franciscan Center.

All who enter the San Pedro center in Winter Park abandon all hope.

Seriously, as much as I’m critical of Bishop Wenski, I’m delighted to hear that this year he sent a memo for parishes NOT to empty the Holy Water for the entirity of Lent. As for this movement, being he’s quite ecumenical, I doubt any action would be taken. But I’d loved to be prooved wrong.
 
tom.wineman said:
As if the Catholic Church has no programs worth presenting ?
Contact your diocese and see what is available or you nearest Franciscan Center.

There are many excellent programs that are Catholic that are not being used. I believe there is cause for concern that they are not being used instead of Rick Warren’s program.
 
I typed “Rick Warren - new age” into a google search, and there are many Protestant denominations who are concerned with his teaching methods. I admit I haven’t done an in-depth study of their concerns, but some of you may want to investigate that.

I read the book and it saddened me to learn that some Catholic churches are using this instead of the excellent study material that is Catholic oriented, and readily available. There is not much depth to “Purpose Driven Life”, in my opinion, and it is also evident that the author believes in “once saved always saved”.

Now, wouldn’t it be great if the Catholics did an in depth study of a spiritual classic such as St. Francis de Sales “Introduction to the Devout Life” ?
 
I don’t know much about Rick Warren, my friend read his book “Purpose Driven Life” and gave it to me…it’s collecting dust as we speak.
I just joined a Catholic Faith Sharing group during lent that was put on by our local parishes. We also meet in our homes once a week and share our faith and read scripture, talk about how it applies to our own life as christians.
I did this last year and really had a positive expierence.
 
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