Putting Catholic faith into action on climate change

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Catholic Coalition on Climate Change - Putting Catholic faith into action on climate change

New Reports Show “Climate Gap”
June 17, 2009 Update

Catholic Coalition on Climate Change & U. S. Conference of Catholic Bishops Disappointed with American Clean Energy and Security Act
As you know, the House is nearing passage of the (HR 2454). But despite the efforts of the faith community and many of you, funding levels for international adaptation in the legislation remain woefully inadequate. The funding begins too low (less than $1 billion) with too-slow increases in the coming years. As the measure goes to the House floor as early as next week, faith leaders will continue to look for champions to carry forth this message.

In the meantime, please continue to call your U.S. Representative (202-224-3121) and urge that the funding level for international adaptation rise to at least $3.5 billion and that this level accelerate at a much faster rate. See the latest letter from the USCCB on this issue here. usccb.org/sdwp/2009-05-18-ltr-crs-usccb-to-committee-on-energy-commerce.pdf

“The Climate Gap” Highlights Inequalities of Climate Change
The University of Southern California Center for Sustainable Cities issued a report last month that reveals the sometimes hidden and often unequal impact climate change is expected to have on people of color and the poor in the United States. “The Climate Gap: Inequalities in How Climate Change Hurts Americans & How to Close the Gap” connects the dots between research on heat waves, air quality, and other challenges associated with climate change. The report explores how we might best combine efforts to both solve climate change and close the Climate Gap. Although the report focuses on California’s global warming policy, it is applicable nationally. The report also has an analysis of the federal-level American Clean Energy Security Act.
Download the report here. college.usc.edu/geography/ESPE/perepub.html

Tough Questions about Climate Change
As the political debate heats up in Congress about climate change, those in the Catholic Church advocating on behalf of poor people at home and abroad in climate change legislation and action are receiving more questions about the Church’s position on climate change, climate science, and why the Catholic Coalition on Climate Change is involved in this issue. In order to address some of these questions and to assist supporters in responding, the “Frequently Asked Questions” page is posted on the Catholic Climate Covenant website here. catholicclimatecovenant.org/about-us/frequently-asked-questions/

You can also find a more detailed handout “A Catholic Approach to Climate Change Question and Answer Resource” catholicclimatecovenant.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/faq2.pdf which includes answers to such questions as: “What is climate change?” “Why should we be concerned about climate change?” “What is the Catholic Bishops position on climate change?” And “What is the scientific evidence for climate change?”

International Catholic Networks Support Adaptation Assistance from Wealthier Countries
CIDSE and Caritas Internationalis, the largest networks (along with Catholic Relief Services) of Catholic development and relief agencies in the world came together in Lilongwe, Malawi, to send a message to the ongoing UN climate negotiations in Bonn in Germany. (The negotiations in Bonn are leading to the global summit in Copenhagen at the end of this year where world leaders will gather to seek new climate agreement to replace the current Kyoto Protocol.) In the statement, they set out their demands for an effective and just new global climate change agreement. They highlighted the need for urgent action on technologies that are key for adapting to climate change, reducing poverty and promoting sustainable development.

Here is an excerpt:
We have already endangered the planet and it is affecting us all. We must act now to reduce emission levels. Annex 1 [industrialized] countries need to collectively cut their emissions by at least 40% below 1990 levels by 2020. Each polluting country must take its responsibility and take serious steps to reduce its carbon emissions, without relying on offsetting in developing countries. It is the most vulnerable people in the poorest countries who are worst impacted by global warming. Annex 1 countries must respond by providing the necessary funding and the technology required for them to adapt. They must also be willing to make life-style changes.
See the whole statement here. cidse.org/Area_of_work/Climate_change/?id=1227
 
‘Climate change’ may or may not be real, and if it is, it is beyond our scope to change it.

MAN-MADE ‘climate change,’ however, is pure junk science, and invented so Al Gore would have something to do with himself.

It is a false means for the government to gain control over the innocent actions of its citizens.
 
‘Climate change’ may or may not be real, and if it is, it is beyond our scope to change it.

MAN-MADE ‘climate change,’ however, is pure junk science, and invented so Al Gore would have something to do with himself.

It is a false means for the government to gain control over the innocent actions of its citizens.
May I ask if you have read any of the material and links in the original post?
Or is your response just your opinion of the subject matter in general?
 
I did not see anything new in this material, and I still don’t believe in climate change. Of course I have seen the predictions go from global cooling to global warming to global cooling caused by global warming to unspecified climate change, all in under 30 years.

I think that if we are going to worry about people starving, that we might consider the current starvation of people, much of which is caused not by lack of food, or even by lack of charitable enterprises, but by corrupt governments. Consider the situation in Zimbabwe, where the government took the land from people who knew how to farm it, and gave it to people who did not know how to farm it. From being an exporter of food, Zimbabwe has turned into a country of starving people and rampant inflation. Other nations have plenty of food, but still the poor are starving.

I have no problem with people working to reduce pollution, but when I see that certain powerful people stand to earn a lot of money from promoting this sort of thing, and others being distracted from current problems to possible future problems, I think that something is out of whack.
 
May I ask if you have read any of the material and links in the original post?
Or is your response just your opinion of the subject matter in general?
Yeah, I’ve read that stuff.

I have absolutely nothing against good stewardship, and certainly nothing against you or your worry about it—but I have everything against Gaia-worship and the marxist way of interfering in the lives of normal citizens through fear of throwing out a paper towel and ‘polluting’ this world.

I live among scientists and engineers. If you think I’m down on this climate change hysteria you should listen to them.

It’s politically motivated, nothing more.
 
The Pope and the Bishops have both said we should be concerned about climate change. Are they wrong? We quote them on every other secular or religious issue but this one.
 
The Pope and the Bishops have both said we should be concerned about climate change. Are they wrong? We quote them on every other secular or religious issue but this one.
Fine, I’m concerned. Now what exactly did the Bishops say we are supposed to do about it?

If it means lobbying our Congress to spend the money they would have otherwise spent on condoms to Africa and spend it on windmills instead, I’m all for that. If it spending money that would otherwise be spend on food and clothing for the poor and spend it on windmills instead, I would REALLY like to see where the Pope advocated THAT.
 
Fine, I’m concerned. Now what exactly did the Bishops say we are supposed to do about it?

If it means lobbying our Congress to spend the money they would have otherwise spent on condoms to Africa and spend it on windmills instead, I’m all for that. If it spending money that would otherwise be spend on food and clothing for the poor and spend it on windmills instead, I would REALLY like to see where the Pope advocated THAT.
Sounds like you answered you own question doesn’t it?
 
Yeah, I’ve read that stuff.

I have absolutely nothing against good stewardship, and certainly nothing against you or your worry about it—but I have everything against Gaia-worship and the marxist way of interfering in the lives of normal citizens through fear of throwing out a paper towel and ‘polluting’ this world.

I live among scientists and engineers. If you think I’m down on this climate change hysteria you should listen to them.

It’s politically motivated, nothing more.
From the original post:
You can also find a more detailed handout “A Catholic Approach to Climate Change Question and Answer Resource” catholicclimatecovenant.org/w…09/04/faq2.pdf which includes answers to such questions as: “What is climate change?” “Why should we be concerned about climate change?” “What is the Catholic Bishops position on climate change?” And “What is the scientific evidence for climate change?”

rather than have a knee jerk reaction - I wonder if you would be open to a discussion on these points in the link?
 
I am glad the Bishops are speaking up for the poor. In my opinion we as a society need to address climate change if for no other reason to make this a cleaner world and make us less dependent on foreign oil.

To do this I think we need to take a serious look at what we are changing too and not jump on the first green technology that comes along. Otherwise the poor and middle class might find themselves no longer being able to afford things like power, transportation and food. I think the Bishops have struck a right tone in making sure we always keep everybody in mind when we address huge issues like this.
 
Again, I live among Christian scientists and engineers. They know that man-made ‘climate change’ is junk science. It opens the door to government control of your personal life that you really, trust me, do not want controlled by anyone but God.

Climate change is a buzzword based on fallacies. It has nothing whatever to do with good stewardship of resources.

And all of this reminds me of previous posts here along the lines of “Pope Condemns Harry Potter,” when it was a false conclusion based on a very neutral letter Benedict had written WHILE HE WAS STILL A CARDINAL.

I would rather put my Catholic faith into action against abortion.
 
Again, I live among Christian scientists and engineers. They know that man-made ‘climate change’ is junk science. It opens the door to government control of your personal life that you really, trust me, do not want controlled by anyone but God.

Climate change is a buzzword based on fallacies. It has nothing whatever to do with good stewardship of resources.

And all of this reminds me of previous posts here along the lines of “Pope Condemns Harry Potter,” when it was a false conclusion based on a very neutral letter Benedict had written WHILE HE WAS STILL A CARDINAL.

I would rather put my Catholic faith into action against abortion.
The bishops have it in writing on their web page which 4Elise has links to at the beginning of this thread. The Pope has talked about several times. One example is at the last World Youth day in Australia. You can get on the Vatican web site and find documents. All this is very current. Saying that do you believe that the Pope and Bishops are wrong?
 
And then there is THIS article
Pope Benedict XVI has launched a surprise attack on climate change prophets of doom, warning them that any solutions to global warming must be based on firm evidence and not on dubious ideology.
The leader of more than a billion Roman Catholics suggested that fears over man-made emissions melting the ice caps and causing a wave of unprecedented disasters were nothing more than scare-mongering.
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-501316/The-Pope-condemns-climate-change-prophets-doom.html
 
The bishops have it in writing on their web page which 4Elise has links to at the beginning of this thread. The Pope has talked about several times. One example is at the last World Youth day in Australia. You can get on the Vatican web site and find documents. All this is very current. Saying that do you believe that the Pope and Bishops are wrong?
I’m a degreed meteorologist, and I say May and this June are pretty decent proof there in no global warming. Following all this bs means I loose my car which means I have no way to make a livng, which means theres no way for my disabled wife to get to most of her doctors. Protecting the Earth from global warming will in essance kill me and my wife.:mad:
 
I would agree with him that much of this is over-hyped. That is why in my privous post I stated that:
“to do this I think we need to take a serious look at what we are changing too and not jump on the first green technology that comes along”
 
I’m a degreed meteorologist, and I say May and this June are pretty decent proof there in no global warming. Following all this bs means I loose my car which means I have no way to make a livng, which means theres no way for my disabled wife to get to most of her doctors. Protecting the Earth from global warming will in essance kill me and my wife.:mad:
Because it is all or nothing? Are we sheep that have to either get behind Al Gore or Rush Limbaugh? I am a Catholic that owns and RV and is concerned about the environment. Instead of getting behind a policy of “no more internal combustible engines” or a policy of “global warming a man made myth made up to seize power” I thought we could come up with a more sensible approach. Instead we find ourselves walking right behind an Elephant or a Donkey doing what everyone else is.
 
I’m a degreed meteorologist, and I say May and this June are pretty decent proof there in no global warming. Following all this bs means I loose my car which means I have no way to make a livng, which means theres no way for my disabled wife to get to most of her doctors. Protecting the Earth from global warming will in essance kill me and my wife.:mad:
You know I understand you not wanting to lose your car. However…I think it is clear from this post you really donlt understand what you are talking about when it comes to global warming…or climate in general. And donlt take me wrong I am not claiming to be an expert either. But the thing is you can;t just look at short time periods like that. You have to look at periods of several years like try 20-30. Other wise there is just too much natural variblity and what not to really see what the trend is. But what you are refering to here is weather. Weather is not the same thing as climate. But this post might help explain things better. realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/01/uncertainty-noise-and-the-art-of-model-data-comparison/
 
You know I understand you not wanting to lose your car. However…I think it is clear from this post you really donlt understand what you are talking about when it comes to global warming…or climate in general. And donlt take me wrong I am not claiming to be an expert either. But the thing is you can;t just look at short time periods like that. You have to look at periods of several years like try 20-30. Other wise there is just too much natural variblity and what not to really see what the trend is. But what you are refering to here is weather. Weather is not the same thing as climate. But this post might help explain things better. realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/01/uncertainty-noise-and-the-art-of-model-data-comparison/
Actually I do know what ive talking about. If we had globalwarming from CO2 not only would there be warmeraverages, but because of the atmosphere holding holding here more there would be less peaks and valleys with in the average. Some of the classes I took to get my degree were in climatology.
 
Actually I do know what ive talking about. If we had globalwarming from CO2 not only would there be warmeraverages, but because of the atmosphere holding holding here more there would be less peaks and valleys with in the average. Some of the classes I took to get my degree were in climatology.
So you believe the IPCC has dooped the Pope and USCCB???
 
‘Climate change’ may or may not be real, and if it is, it is beyond our scope to change it.

MAN-MADE ‘climate change,’ however, is pure junk science, and invented so Al Gore would have something to do with himself.

It is a false means for the government to gain control over the innocent actions of its citizens.
Fine, I’m concerned. Now what exactly did the Bishops say we are supposed to do about it?

If it means lobbying our Congress to spend the money they would have otherwise spent on condoms to Africa and spend it on windmills instead, I’m all for that. If it spending money that would otherwise be spend on food and clothing for the poor and spend it on windmills instead, I would REALLY like to see where the Pope advocated THAT.
Well put.

It’s interesting to me how the term “global warming” has/is being morphed to “global climate change” when the hype over “global warming” (not to mention we just had one of the coldest winters in recent memory in the northern midwest) seems to have lost momentum, politically speaking.
 
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