Putting your money where your liturgical mouth is

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By now it is pretty obvious than many of us have many complaints about liturgical abuses. But we have been granted through Redemptionis Sacramentum, the right, yea even the obligation, to do something more than just complain about them.
6. Complaints Regarding Abuses in Liturgical Matters
[183.] In an altogether particular manner, let everyone do all that is in their power to ensure that the Most Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist will be protected from any and every irreverence or distortion and that all abuses be thoroughly corrected. This is a most serious duty incumbent upon each and every one, and all are bound to carry it out without any favouritism.

[184.] Any Catholic, whether Priest or Deacon or lay member of Christ’s faithful, has the right to lodge a complaint regarding a liturgical abuse to the diocesan Bishop or the competent Ordinary equivalent to him in law, or to the Apostolic See on account of the primacy of the Roman Pontiff.[290] It is fitting, however, insofar as possible, that the report or complaint be submitted first to the diocesan Bishop. This is naturally to be done in truth and charity.
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Remember the words with truth and chairty. Then gather the documents that back up your concern/compalint. Be sure it is then an abuse and not just a preference.

Once you establish you have what you consider a valid complaint, write or talk to your Pastor (I like things in writing) and usually sending a copy to the Diocese Office of Worship or Bishop
helps.

No response or unsatisfactory response from Parish? Write formal complaint to Diocese. No response from them, then we now have right to write directly to Holy See.

Does it work. Yep

I wrote to my parish liturgist about two problems, received very unsatisfactory and incomplete rude response.

Wrote to the Diocese, received answer in 24 hours advising me that I was correct in both counts and telling me how I could send a formal complaint to the Diocese.

Received a reply in two working days that the Pastor would be asked to give a formal reply about the two practices.

So now we have all played the “ain’t it awful game” long enough. It’s time to take back the liturgy from those who would abuse it and protect the Holy Eucharist.
 
I printed a copy of R.S. I am going to talk with my priest fairly soon, after I read through it all the way.

This was just the push I needed to actually do something about it, rather than thinking about doing something about it.

Thanks.

In Him, through her,
PioMagnus
 
You are welcome and I challenge everyone on the forum who has a legitimate complaint about a liturgical abuse to follow suit.
 
Since this is a public forum, I am not sure it would be charitable to give the details here - at least I would not be comfortable doing it.

Suffice to say one involved the handling of the Eucharist and what I considered to be self-communicating and that it was agreed by the Diocese that this was and that it was not acceptable.

I think we all need to read Redemptionis Sacramentum and especailly be aware that there are some things that just cannot be accepted regarding the mishandling of the Holy Eucharist.
 
Most people are afraid of making waves. I was, at first, but it hit me that I gave up just about everything that was comfortable to me when I converted to the Faith and I could stand being hated by my fellow parishioners if that’s what it takes to make a stand for Christ. There are a handful of liberals who have some objections to what I’m doing but an overwhelming number of the faithful have responded positively to the changes I’ve tried to introduce at the parish. Just give it time. And make a bold stand for truth. People generally don’t follow timid leaders.
 
What is it you are doing?

What changes are you introducing?

How are you able to do this?

Interested.
 
I mentioned one of the abuses going on in my parish to the priest today.

I am the server trainer in my parish so I said, “I have been reading Redemtionis Sacramentum, and it said we aren’t to pour the Blessed Sacrament. When do you want me to put the chalices out?”

He said that our diocese has said not to impliment R.S. yet, and to wait for a word from the bishop.

Personally, I think he is lying to me, but I emailed the diocese to see when they want R.S. Implemented.

In Him, through her,
Pio Magnus
 
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PioMagnus:
I mentioned one of the abuses going on in my parish to the priest today.

I am the server trainer in my parish so I said, “I have been reading Redemtionis Sacramentum, and it said we aren’t to pour the Blessed Sacrament. When do you want me to put the chalices out?”

He said that our diocese has said not to impliment R.S. yet, and to wait for a word from the bishop.

Personally, I think he is lying to me, but I emailed the diocese to see when they want R.S. Implemented.

In Him, through her,
Pio Magnus
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Good for you and the thing is that there is nothing NEW in Redemptionis Sacramentum - it is just clarifying what should have been done all along and it is not a matter of when but now - so you were right to write to your Diocese. If the answer is not satisfactory, you have the right to write to the Holy See - more than a right according to RS, you have an obligation.
 
I got my reply from the diocese.

He said the bishop didn’t want any delays, but that the diocese had some documents to put out before I should expect much of a change. He said he was working on it and to expect the changes implemented by August, and if not, then I should talk to my parish priest again.

From the reply I got I determined that my priest was lying, as the bishop didn’t say to “put it on hold.”

If you can’t trust your priest, who can you trust??

I guess I am lucky though, because even though my pastor isn’t honest, pretty much every other priest I’ve ever met was…

In Him, through her,
Pio Magnus
 
I am glad your wrote to your Diocese and that they responded so quickly also. Your priest may not have been lying but rather may just not have understood correctly - let’s be charitable and give him the benefit of the doubt.

Also we take it for granted that the parish priests read and know everything that is going on and probably they don’t. They wait for instruction from the Bishop while we on the internet may be a jump or two ahead of them because we have access to so much and to the (name removed by moderator)ut of many. That’s why we sometimes must bring things to their attention.
 
Although I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt, this isn’t the first time this sort of thing has happened. But I won’t go into that.

In Him, through her,
Pio Magnus
 
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