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American soldiers liberated a number of camps.Something I don’t get is why would the nazi’s kill the Jews with gas when the gas which was reported to have been used would have been highly dangerous to the soldiers who ran the camps? If they were slaughterers then why did they not just use a bullet which would have been cheaper and safer.
Also, why were the Jews all so emaciated. Why did the Germans keep them alive until they were skin and bones and then gas them when they were at the point of starvation?
It just does not make sense to me. If I ask an honest question then does this make me a holocaust denier? And if I am unhappy with the explanation I am given, am I still a holocaust denier?
We all know that in the world wars, half the battle was based on propoganda. Demonising your enemy was part of the mythology built up to incense hatred and inflame your fighting force and build support for the war.
How do we know that the Soviets did not fabricate these stories? How convenient that all the so-called gas chambers were destroyed by the Soviets.
Even in Auschwitz they did tests for the residue of cyanide. They found none in the homicide chambers and stacks of residue in the delousing chambers. The concentrations of the gas were far lower to delouse than to kill a man so you should expect the residue in the so-called homicide chamber to be far higher than in the delousing chamber.
This all has the whiff of propoganda to me. Pardon the pun.
Please read carefully what I wrote. I did not deny the existence of concentration camps. In fact I even made reference to the emaciated bodies, showing that they had lived with deprivation for many months. What I denied was that they had been killed by gassing.excubitor, one example - from the United States Holocaust Museum site:
ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005131
" … U.S. forces liberated the Buchenwald concentration camp near Weimar, Germany, on April 11, 1945, a few days after the Nazis began evacuating the camp. On the day of liberation, an underground prisoner resistance organization seized control of Buchenwald to prevent atrocities by the retreating camp guards. American forces liberated more than 20,000 prisoners at Buchenwald. **They also liberated Dora-Mittelbau, Flossenbürg, Dachau, and Mauthausen. **
British forces liberated concentration camps in northern Germany, including Neuengamme and Bergen-Belsen. They entered the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp, near Celle, in mid-April 1945. Some 60,000 prisoners, most in critical condition because of a typhus epidemic, were found alive. More than 10,000 of them died from the effects of malnutrition or disease within a few weeks of liberation.
Liberators confronted unspeakable conditions in the Nazi camps, where piles of corpses lay unburied. Only after the liberation of these camps was the full scope of Nazi horrors exposed to the world. The small percentage of inmates who survived resembled skeletons because of the demands of forced labor and the lack of food, compounded by months and years of maltreatment. Many were so weak that they could hardly move. Disease remained an ever-present danger, and many of the camps had to be burned down to prevent the spread of epidemics. Survivors of the camps faced a long and difficult road to recovery. … "
This has been documented by the American military from the last days of the war.Also, why does Auschwitz even admit to having a delousing chamber. What? They deloused their prisoners one day so that they can gas them the next. Again. It just doesn’t make sense.
By the way. I am not denying that there was a holocaust. I am simply denying the method of death.
So they housed the prisoners and deloused them until they were emaciated and at the point of death by disease and hunger, and then they gassed them. I find it remarkable that any American does not question this “method”.This has been documented by the American military from the last days of the war.
Do some research for yourself. It’s remarkable that any American doubts the “methods.”
All were worked until death became the final end.So they housed the prisoners and deloused them until they were emaciated and at the point of death by disease and hunger, and then they gassed them. I find it remarkable that any American does not question this “method”.
Yes, I believe that they died of little food, inadequate clothes, disease, harsh weather. I have learned this. I believe it. I think it is true. I said as much in my previous post.All were worked until death became the final end.
Little food, inadequate clothes, disease, harsh weather -
I find it incomprehensible that any American has not learned this.
Then again, I’m 65 yrs old. My father and five uncles served in WWII.
Truth can seem to be unbelievable - yet still be truth.
Good night to you.
Other than than the countless many who were gassed as soon as they arrived in a camp.Yes, I believe that they died of little food, inadequate clothes, disease, harsh weather. I have learned this. I believe it. I think it is true. I said as much in my previous post.
I do not therefore believe that they died of gassing.
Good night to you.
The execution of David Lawson by poisonous gas should prove to anyone that death by poisonous gas is probably the most inefficient method of executing someone. This method of execution was abandoned by the American people who learned that executing criminals is much better done by using lethal injection or electrocution. Many will say death by gunshot, decapitation or by hanging are more efficient than these methods.Other than than the countless many who were gassed as soon as they arrived in a camp.
Off the trains, to the gas, to the ovens.
Elderly people, pregnant women, sick folks, the retarded, little children.
Live and learn - or not.
pbs.org/auschwitz/40-45/killing/The execution of David Lawson by poisonous gas should prove to anyone that death by poisonous gas is probably the most inefficient method of executing someone. This method of execution was abandoned by the American people who learned that executing criminals is much better done by using lethal injection or electrocution. Many will say death by gunshot, decapitation or by hanging are more efficient than these methods.
Why would the efficient German people use the worst method of execution ever devised.
Not sure. I am happy to learn though. It’s just that nothing I have read yet has convinced me that Jews were gassed. At this stage I believe the story was war propoganda by the Soviets. But like I said. I am happy to learn.
Always a sign of hope.The execution of David Lawson by poisonous gas should prove to anyone that death by poisonous gas is probably the most inefficient method of executing someone. This method of execution was abandoned by the American people who learned that executing criminals is much better done by using lethal injection or electrocution. Many will say death by gunshot, decapitation or by hanging are more efficient than these methods.
Why would the efficient German people use the worst method of execution ever devised.
Not sure. **I am happy to learn though.**It’s just that nothing I have read yet has convinced me that Jews were gassed. At this stage I believe the story was war propoganda by the Soviets. But like I said. I am happy to learn.
Can you provide a source that mentions tests for cyanide residue?Something I don’t get is why would the nazi’s kill the Jews with gas when the gas which was reported to have been used would have been highly dangerous to the soldiers who ran the camps? If they were slaughterers then why did they not just use a bullet which would have been cheaper and safer.
Also, why were the Jews all so emaciated. Why did the Germans keep them alive until they were skin and bones and then gas them when they were at the point of starvation?
It just does not make sense to me. If I ask an honest question then does this make me a holocaust denier? And if I am unhappy with the explanation I am given, am I still a holocaust denier?
We all know that in the world wars, half the battle was based on propoganda. Demonising your enemy was part of the mythology built up to incense hatred and inflame your fighting force and build support for the war.
How do we know that the Soviets did not fabricate these stories? How convenient that all the so-called gas chambers were destroyed by the Soviets.
Even in Auschwitz they did tests for the residue of cyanide. They found none in the homicide chambers and stacks of residue in the delousing chambers. The concentrations of the gas were far lower to delouse than to kill a man so you should expect the residue in the so-called homicide chamber to be far higher than in the delousing chamber.
This all has the whiff of propoganda to me. Pardon the pun.