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cthulhubryan
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I’ve order a copy and have been reading it online. I noticed that what is the 23rd psalm in my NIV is the 22nd psalm in the Douay Rheims. Why is this?
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Bryan
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bilop
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I believe one of the first 22 psalms is divided in two in most translations, but not in the Douay Rheims.I’ve order a copy and have been reading it online. I noticed that what is the 23rd psalm in my NIV is the 22nd psalm in the Douay Rheims. Why is this?
Thanks,
Bryan
Remember, all the numbering are a late innovation, so at one time it was not obvious where chapters and verses should be broken.
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cthulhubryan
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Okay. Thank you. That makes sense.
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tobinatorstark
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Yes the 9 and 10 Psalms is divided up. My NAB has both the Greek and Hebrew. The Greek is Psalm 9 and the Hebrew is Psalm 10. In my Douay-Rheims the Greek is still first and the Hebrew 2nd but the verse number reverts to 1 when the Hebrew version is read. I also noticed the name or word Selah after verse 21 of the Greek. I also notice this throughout the Psalms in the Protestant King James. What is or who is Selah???I believe one of the first 22 psalms is divided in two in most translations, but not in the Douay Rheims.
Remember, all the numbering are a late innovation, so at one time it was not obvious where chapters and verses should be broken.
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erinelf88
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Selah is, I believe, a musical term. Unfortunately, its exact meaning has been lost to the ages, as the music at the time of David is… well, VERY different than music now, or even music at the time of Christ. I could be wrong, but that’s what I remember.
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Todd_Easton
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Douay-Rheims <=> NIV
Psalms 1—8 <=> Psalms 1—8.
Psalm 9 <=> Psalms 9 &10.
Psalms 10—112 <=> Psalms 11—113.
Psalm 113 <=> Psalms 114 & 115.
Psalms 114 & 115 <=> Psalm 116.
Psalms 116—145 <=> Psalms 117—146.
Psalms 146 & 147 <=> Psalm 147.
Psalms 148—150 <=> Psalms 148—150.
Psalms 1—8 <=> Psalms 1—8.
Psalm 9 <=> Psalms 9 &10.
Psalms 10—112 <=> Psalms 11—113.
Psalm 113 <=> Psalms 114 & 115.
Psalms 114 & 115 <=> Psalm 116.
Psalms 116—145 <=> Psalms 117—146.
Psalms 146 & 147 <=> Psalm 147.
Psalms 148—150 <=> Psalms 148—150.
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Crimson_Seraph
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Wikipedia says.
Selah (Hebrew: סלה) may be the most difficult word in the Hebrew Bible to translate. Selah is probably either a liturgico-musical mark or an instruction on the reading of the text, something like “stop and listen”. The Psalms were sung accompanied by musical instruments and there are references to this in many chapters. Thirty-one of the thirty-nine psalms with the caption “To the choir-master” include “Selah” so the musical context of selah is obvious. Selah notes a break in the song and as such is similar in purpose to Amen in that it stresses the importance of the preceding passage. Alternatively, Selah may mean “forever”, as it does in some places in the liturgy (notably the second to last blessing of the Amidah). Another interpretation claims that Selah comes from the primary Hebrew root word [calah] which means “to hang”, and by implication to measure (weigh).[1] Also “Selah” is the name of a city from the time of David and Solomon.[2]
It is translated into today’s general language with the meaning: think about it or praise [the lord]. Other editions just leave it untranslated as “sela” or “selah”
Selah (Hebrew: סלה) may be the most difficult word in the Hebrew Bible to translate. Selah is probably either a liturgico-musical mark or an instruction on the reading of the text, something like “stop and listen”. The Psalms were sung accompanied by musical instruments and there are references to this in many chapters. Thirty-one of the thirty-nine psalms with the caption “To the choir-master” include “Selah” so the musical context of selah is obvious. Selah notes a break in the song and as such is similar in purpose to Amen in that it stresses the importance of the preceding passage. Alternatively, Selah may mean “forever”, as it does in some places in the liturgy (notably the second to last blessing of the Amidah). Another interpretation claims that Selah comes from the primary Hebrew root word [calah] which means “to hang”, and by implication to measure (weigh).[1] Also “Selah” is the name of a city from the time of David and Solomon.[2]
It is translated into today’s general language with the meaning: think about it or praise [the lord]. Other editions just leave it untranslated as “sela” or “selah”
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Manfred
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The NEW Jerusalem Bible (1985) translates “selah” as “pause”.Wikipedia says.
Selah (Hebrew: סלה) may be the most difficult word in the Hebrew Bible to translate. Selah is probably either a liturgico-musical mark or an instruction on the reading of the text, something like “stop and listen”. The Psalms were sung accompanied by musical instruments and there are references to this in many chapters. Thirty-one of the thirty-nine psalms with the caption “To the choir-master” include “Selah” so the musical context of selah is obvious. Selah notes a break in the song and as such is similar in purpose to Amen in that it stresses the importance of the preceding passage. Alternatively, Selah may mean “forever”, as it does in some places in the liturgy (notably the second to last blessing of the Amidah). Another interpretation claims that Selah comes from the primary Hebrew root word [calah] which means “to hang”, and by implication to measure (weigh).[1] Also “Selah” is the name of a city from the time of David and Solomon.[2]
It is translated into today’s general language with the meaning: think about it or praise [the lord]. Other editions just leave it untranslated as “sela” or “selah”
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tobinatorstark
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InterestingThe NEW Jerusalem Bible (1985) translates “selah” as “pause”.
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