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vickilbrown
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Please can any one tell me is the fire that is described in the afterlife of eternal hell… the same fire that is used in purgatory…ie the purging fire that God sends us…
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stephe1987
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The fire in hell is much worse than purgatory.
Yes, in purgatory you are being cleansed of sin and of course purgatory will not be a “fun” experience. But in purgatory you will know that you made it. There is a 100% guaratee that you will go to heaven once the cleansing is complete! It might take a while (it will probably seem to take longer than it actually does), but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. In purgatory, our Blessed Mother Mary is there to comfort you and distributes prayers/graces to everyone. Purgatory is heaven’s hospital.
Hell is the absence of God. You know you chose to reject God and live in sin away from God, and in death you will never be with him. Your soul, created to be with God, burns from the loss, not with God, and seeing God and being taken from Him, and the degree of pain will depend on the degree of your sins. You will never get to be with God, will be in constant torment and some sources even say you will constantly be in the company of Satan.
Yes, in purgatory you are being cleansed of sin and of course purgatory will not be a “fun” experience. But in purgatory you will know that you made it. There is a 100% guaratee that you will go to heaven once the cleansing is complete! It might take a while (it will probably seem to take longer than it actually does), but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. In purgatory, our Blessed Mother Mary is there to comfort you and distributes prayers/graces to everyone. Purgatory is heaven’s hospital.
Hell is the absence of God. You know you chose to reject God and live in sin away from God, and in death you will never be with him. Your soul, created to be with God, burns from the loss, not with God, and seeing God and being taken from Him, and the degree of pain will depend on the degree of your sins. You will never get to be with God, will be in constant torment and some sources even say you will constantly be in the company of Satan.
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WesleyF
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As far as I know, the fire in purgatory is Christ himself (Heb 12:29). Pope Benedict hinted towards this over here - marianapostolate.wordpress.com/2011/01/22/pope-benedict-on-purgatory/
Hell fire is different. I would suggest you read Aquinas’ thoughts on it -
newadvent.org/summa/5097.htm
Hell fire is different. I would suggest you read Aquinas’ thoughts on it -
newadvent.org/summa/5097.htm
The difference is:Please can any one tell me is the fire that is described in the afterlife of eternal hell… the same fire that is used in purgatory…ie the purging fire that God sends us…
The fire that burns in purgatory, no matter how painful it is joined with the happiness of knowing that one day you will be in Heaven.
The fire that burns in hell, even it is as painful is filled with the loss of God and despair of knowing that is where they will remain for eternity.
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kbwall
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It’s also kinda debatable if this ‘fire’ is even going to take the form of fire, or if ‘fire’ is simply a metaphor. In any case, the point is that the suffering in purgatory will be temporary, while the suffering in Hell will not be.
Although, I am curious about something. If you get sent to purgatory, will you know you’re in purgatory, and not Hell, and therefore know that the suffering of purgatory will eventually end? Vice versa, if you’re in Hell, will you know you’re in Hell, and not hold out on the possibility of it ending, which it never will?
Also, can you get yourself damned while in purgatory? I mean, you were deemed for Heaven going in, but I mean, there’s suffering there. What if one gets mad at God for inflicting purgatory upon them?
Although, I am curious about something. If you get sent to purgatory, will you know you’re in purgatory, and not Hell, and therefore know that the suffering of purgatory will eventually end? Vice versa, if you’re in Hell, will you know you’re in Hell, and not hold out on the possibility of it ending, which it never will?
Also, can you get yourself damned while in purgatory? I mean, you were deemed for Heaven going in, but I mean, there’s suffering there. What if one gets mad at God for inflicting purgatory upon them?
Why would the fire be a metaphor? It will be a fire that won’t consume anything.It’s also kinda debatable if this ‘fire’ is even going to take the form of fire, or if ‘fire’ is simply a metaphor. In any case, the point is that the suffering in purgatory will be temporary, while the suffering in Hell will not be.
Although, I am curious about something. If you get sent to purgatory, will you know you’re in purgatory, and not Hell, and therefore know that the suffering of purgatory will eventually end? Vice versa, if you’re in Hell, will you know you’re in Hell, and not hold out on the possibility of it ending, which it never will?
Also, can you get yourself damned while in purgatory? I mean, you were deemed for Heaven going in, but I mean, there’s suffering there. What if one gets mad at God for inflicting purgatory upon them?
You will know whether you are in hell or purgatory.
Once you are in purgatory you cannot go to hell.
" Today, I was led by an Angel to the chasms of hell. It is a place of great torture; how awesomely large and extensive it is! The kinds of tortures I saw: the first torture that constitutes hell is the loss of God; the second is perpetual remorse of conscience; the third is that one’s condition will never change; the fourth is the fire that will penetrate the soul without destroying it, a terrible suffering, since it is a purely spiritual fire, lit by God’s anger; the fifth torture is conditional darkness and a terrible suffocating smell, and despite the darkness, the devils and the souls of the damned see each other and all the evil, both of others and their own; the sixth torture is the constant company of satan, the seventh torture is horrible despair, hatred of God, vile words, curses and blasphemies. These are the tortures suffered by all the damned together, but that is not the end of the sufferings. There are special tortures destined for particular souls. These are the torments of the senses. Each soul undergoes terrible and indescribable sufferings, related to the manner in which it has sinned. There are caverns and pits of torture where one form of agony differs from another. I would have died at the very sight of these tortures if the omnipotence of God had not supported me. Let the sinner know that he will be tortured throughout all eternity, in those senses which he made use of to sin. I am writing this at the command of God, so that no soul may find an excuse by saying there is no hell, or that nobody has ever been there, and so no one can say what it is like. I, sister Faustina, by the order of God, have visited the abysses of hell so that I might tell souls about it and testify to its existence. I cannot speak about it now; but I have received a command from God to leave it in writing. The devils were full of hatred for me, but they had to obey me at the command of God. What I have written is but a pale shadow of the things I saw. But I noticed one thing: that most of the souls there are those who disbelieved that there is a hell. When I came to, I could hardly recover from the fright. How terribly souls suffer there! Consequently, I pray even more fervently for the conversion of sinners. I incessantly plead God’s mercy upon them. O my Jesus, I would rather be in agony until the end of the world, amidst the greatest sufferings, then offend You by the least sin. (Diary 741).
"I saw my Guardian Angel, who ordered me to follow him. In a moment I was in a misty place full of fire in which there was a great crowd of suffering souls. They were praying fervently, but to no avail, for themselves; only we can come to their aid. The flames, which were burning them, did not touch me at all. My Guardian Angel did not leave me for an instant. I asked these souls what their greatest suffering was. They answered me in one voice that their greatest torment was longing for God. I saw Our Lady visiting the souls in Purgatory. The souls call Her “The Star of the Sea”. She brings them refreshment. I wanted to talk with them some more, but my Guardian Angel beckoned me to leave. We went out of that prison of suffering. * ‘My mercy does not want this, but justice demands it. Since that time, I am in closer communion with the suffering souls.’”* (Diary, 20)
St. Faustina.
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Della
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The fire of purgatory is what St. Paul talked about:
1Cor.3[13] each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. [15] If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
It’s a purging of the soul: ccc.scborromeo.org.master.com/texis/master/search/?sufs=0&q=purgatory&xsubmit=Search&s=SS of unhealthy attachments to creatures, the expiation of venial sins, and the resolving of temporal punishment for venial sins. Penance and indulgences can lessen and even negate the need for purgatory.
As to hell fire, it is eternal because the person made an irrevocable, final rejection of God either through deliberate choice or through the commission of mortal sins. No one can accidentally or unintentionally commit mortal sins. They are committed through willful desire, knowing full well that the sin(s) is mortal, and under no duress.
1Cor.3[13] each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. [15] If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
It’s a purging of the soul: ccc.scborromeo.org.master.com/texis/master/search/?sufs=0&q=purgatory&xsubmit=Search&s=SS of unhealthy attachments to creatures, the expiation of venial sins, and the resolving of temporal punishment for venial sins. Penance and indulgences can lessen and even negate the need for purgatory.
As to hell fire, it is eternal because the person made an irrevocable, final rejection of God either through deliberate choice or through the commission of mortal sins. No one can accidentally or unintentionally commit mortal sins. They are committed through willful desire, knowing full well that the sin(s) is mortal, and under no duress.
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