Question about Jews, Muslims, and God

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Of course not. He as we Christians see it has now taken on the personhood of the Holy Trinity. He has remained the Father as he always was, but now has taken on the additional reality of being God Incarnate on this earth in the person of Jesus Christ, plus the Holy Spirit - the “all truth” who remains near us for our benefit.
‘As we Christians see it…’. Exactly. It is a matter of perception. And so the question to be asked is not: ‘Do Muslims- and other unitarians- worship a different God than us trinitarians?’…but: ‘Why do such folk not perceive God as we do?’ It took a while, but we got there in the end.
 
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As far as what it is like going through the life cycle here on earth, I would say that it is something that one needs to experience first hand, and after His Incarnation, the Creator now has.
 
For someone who’s quick to judge other gods as “fake” or “evil”. You’ve committed blasphemy by attributing imperfection to God. If you are a Catholic, are you not aware what the Catholic Church teaches about God? How could you say God was imperfect prior to the incarnation? In other words, God could only be made perfect by His creation?
 
For someone who’s quick to judge other gods as “fake” or “evil”. You’ve committed blasphemy by attributing imperfection to God. If you are a Catholic, are you not aware what the Catholic Church teaches about God? How could you say God was imperfect prior to the incarnation? In other words, God could only be made perfect by His creation?
He is the Rock, his works are perfect, and all his ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he. Deuteronomy 32

Genesis 17, God heard the out cries against the people of Sodom and Gomorrah, what did God say? Same concept as sending Christ - John 17.

Then the Lord said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous 21 that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.”

In Exodus, 9 same as in Genesis, The cries against the Egyptians “ascended” to heaven. God remembered His covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob. And as the next verse tells us, "I have seen the way the Egyptians are oppressing them. 10 So now, go. I am sending you (Moses) to Pharaoh to bring my people the Israelites out of Egypt.”

And God saw the children of Israel, and God knew.

When the three Angels came to Abraham to announce the birth of his first son, where was Sarah?

Prior to this Abraham was told that his descendants would be as numerous as the stars! What did Abraham then say to Sarah? Genesis 15
 
Muslims worship God, but they worship him falsely, having been deceived by a false prophet.
 
Muslims worship God, but they worship him falsely, having been deceived by a false prophet.
What religion were Muslims before Mohammed? And, how did some of the religious group drift into worshipping other gods? In the old Testament we read that God was stlll very much active and with the prophets. The part in Genesis and Exodus created the image on idol worshiping, for example Terah was an idolatrous priest who manufactured idols?

As I understood it both religions turned toward God? And that the Christian and Jewish religion had some influence? Also, that the religion held the apostle Peter in high regard?
 
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He did mean to attribute imperfection to God. He didn’t know how to say what he wanted. God wanted (not needed) to feel empathy instead of sympathy with us. He came to show us an example (not because he had too). God could of course did this any other way but for you or anyone (Muhammad) to suggest there was a “better way” is the real blasphemy.
 
I assume you are referring to the people of Arabia. Some were Jews, and some were Christians. Most were polyetheists.
His name (Ishmael) was given by God through the angel, and stands as a perpetual reminder of God’s mercy. Ishmael means “God hears” — and understands, and will respond in times of need. It’s in the Bible, the Torah, Genesis 16:7-11, RSV. “The angel of the Lord found her by a spring of water in the wilderness the spring on the way to Shur. And he said, ‘Hagar, maid of Sarai, where have you come from and where are you going?’ She said, ‘I am fleeing from my mistress Sarai.’ The angel of the Lord said to her, ‘Return to your mistress, and submit to her.’ The angel of the Lord also said to her, ‘I will so greatly multiply your descendants that they cannot be numbered for multitude.’ And the angel of the Lord said to her, ‘Behold, you are with child, and shall bear a son; you shall call his name Ishmael; because the Lord has given heed to your affliction.’”

Again when Hagar and Ishmael were moving to Arabia the angel appeared to her. It’s in the Bible, the Torah, Genesis 21:17-21, RSV. “And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven, and said to her, ‘What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not; for God has heard the voice of the lad where he is. Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him fast with your hand; for I will make him a great nation.’ Then God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the skin with water, and gave the lad a drink. And God was with the lad, and he grew up; he lived in the wilderness, and became an expert with the bow. He lived in the wilderness of Paran; [northern Arabia] and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.”
 
When Jesus came, and purchased all the saving promises of Israel for the sake of all the nations (Revelation 5:9), the time had come for Genesis 12:3 to be fulfilled — in you, Abraham, that is in your offspring, in Jesus, “all the families of the earth will be blessed.” How? Everyone — Jew, Muslim, Hindu — who calls on the name of Jesus will be saved (Romans 10:13). Why? Because everyone who receives Jesus becomes with Jesus an heir of Abraham. Galatians 3:8, 9, 29:
The Scripture . . . preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you shall all the nations be blessed.” So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith. . . . And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.
 
His name (Ishmael) was given by God through the angel, and stands as a perpetual reminder of God’s mercy. Ishmael means “God hears” — and understands, and will respond in times of need. It’s in the Bible, the Torah, Genesis 16:7-11, RSV. “The angel of the Lord found her by a spring of water in the wilderness the spring on the way to Shur. And he said, ‘Hagar, maid of Sarai, where have you come from and where are you going?’ She said, ‘I am fleeing from my mistress Sarai.’ The angel of the Lord said to her, ‘Return to your mistress, and submit to her.’ The angel of the Lord also said to her, ‘I will so greatly multiply your descendants that they cannot be numbered for multitude.’ And the angel of the Lord said to her, ‘Behold, you are with child, and shall bear a son; you shall call his name Ishmael; because the Lord has given heed to your affliction.’”

Again when Hagar and Ishmael were moving to Arabia the angel appeared to her. It’s in the Bible, the Torah, Genesis 21:17-21, RSV. “And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven, and said to her, ‘What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not; for God has heard the voice of the lad where he is. Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him fast with your hand; for I will make him a great nation.’ Then God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the skin with water, and gave the lad a drink. And God was with the lad, and he grew up; he lived in the wilderness, and became an expert with the bow. He lived in the wilderness of Paran; [northern Arabia] and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.”
Thank you. That’s very kind.
 
How could you say that he didn’t mean to, or that his words didn’t come out right, when he affirned this statement of mine:
This heavily implies that God was imperfect in His knowledge/wisdom/judgement, prior to the incarnation.
Also, God is perfect in His knowledge/wisdom/judgement by necessity, there is no “other way” or “better way”.
 
Also, God is perfect in His knowledge/wisdom/judgement by necessity, there is no “other way” or “better way”.
Yes, God is perfect in His wisdom, knowledge and judgement but He is merciful and slow to anger. God is patient with us, wanting every one of us to know Him, 2 Peter 3:9. God is faithful and His Word is true. [Hebrews says God cannot lie, nor can He break an unconditional promise that He says He will fulfill. Every covenant He made is kept. Every promise or foretelling has or will come true. Testimony after testimony of God’s faithfulness is certainly found throughout all scripture- no matter which book you read.

Yes, God is perfect but like Exodus tells us, "
Moses’ instructions to, “remember this day, on which you went free from Egypt, the house of bondage …” (Exodus 13:3).

And so, in the same breath:

1741 (Vatican) Liberation and salvation . By his glorious Cross Christ has won salvation for all men. He redeemed them from the sin that held them in bondage. "For freedom Christ has set us free."34 In him we have communion with the "truth that makes us free."35 The Holy Spirit has been given to us and, as the Apostle teaches, "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom."36 Already we glory in the "liberty of the children of God."37

[1742](javascript:openWindow(‘cr/1742.htm’)😉 Freedom and grace . The grace of Christ is not in the slightest way a rival of our freedom when this freedom accords with the sense of the true and the good that God has put in the human heart. On the contrary, as Christian experience attests especially in prayer, the more docile we are to the promptings of grace, the more we grow in inner freedom and confidence during trials, such as those we face in the pressures and constraints of the outer world. By the working of grace the Holy Spirit educates us in spiritual freedom in order to make us free collaborators in his work in the Church and in the world:

Almighty and merciful God,
in your goodness take away from us all that is harmful,
so that, made ready both in mind and body,
we may freely accomplish your will.38
 
The God of Muslims is not the same as the God of the Christians. In Christianity, God is a Trinity, but in Islam, God is not Trinity. The Jews prostrated the same God who Muslims prostrated.
 
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The God of Muslims is not the same as the God of the Christians. In Christianity, God is a Trinity, but in Islam, God is not Trinity. The Jews prostrated the same God who Muslims prostrated.
Sorry but you are incorrect - as stated many times above.
 
He did mean to attribute imperfection to God. He didn’t know how to say what he wanted. God wanted (not needed) to feel empathy instead of sympathy with us. He came to show us an example (not because he had too). God could of course did this any other way but for you or anyone (Muhammad) to suggest there was a “better way” is the real blasphemy.
To bring out the fact that there was no better way but also, written in Genesis 18 was the passage that God heard the outcries of Sodom and Gomorrah. In this chapter, God is about to confront Abraham about the city but also, He goes down to check out whether they have acted altogether according to the severity of the report yet, like Babylon in Genesis 11, The LORD comes down to see the city and the tower before He destroys what man created for himself and scatters them.

Before God makes that final judgement, He comes down. In the book of Wisdom, in the same way as Abraham - Wisdom pleads, " 1 It was [Wisdom] who protected the first [man] to be fashioned, the father of the world, who had been created all alone, she it was who rescued him from his fall. 2) and gave him the [strength] to subjugate all things." The judgements of God or how God judges is without error. There are some real “eye openers” between both the old and the new when it comes to a final judgement. Even when reading John 17, we read that Jesus pleads for the Apostles. Luke 22:31

The beginning of the promise started with Abraham. The promise was told in Genesis 15 - but the chapter lead to the appearance of God with Abraham " After these things the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision, saying"…God’s word “came” to Abram. Genesis 17, Now when Abram was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to Abram and said to him. My understanding after the birth of Ishmael, God did not appear to Abraham for about 13 years. At that age of 13, the coming of age, Abraham takes Ishmael, along with the rest of the household, to be circumcised as ordered by God. - The Hebrew term translated as “bridegroom” is connected with the Arabic for “to circumcise”.
 
Then God re-introduces himself as “God almighty.” God puts a condition to Abraham, saying walk before me blameless and only then He will confirm His covenant between Him and Abraham. Again, and even reading the book of Exodus, the beginning of the chapter describes God as knowing and seeing how the Egyptians treated the Israelite’s, " 20 So God was good to the midwives, and the people multiplied, and became very mighty." and " So God heard their groaning; and God remembered His covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. 25 God saw the sons of Israel, and God took notice of them ."

Yes, God has wisdom, knowledge and perfect judgement but within “all” of these characteristic - God is both compassionate, merciful and forgiving. Even when we make mistakes and in error. Blasphemy is a hard core word but if memory serves me correctly - God has the ability to forgive even the worst of sinners. Remember Peter who asked, " Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother who sins against me? Up to seven times?” 22[Jesus] [answered,] [“I tell] [you,] [not] [just] [seven times,] [but] [seventy-seven times][!]

See Nehemiah 9, the history from start to finish is about that forgiveness
 
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