Question about Mortal/Venial sin

  • Thread starter Thread starter Katholikos64
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
K

Katholikos64

Guest
Does the Catholic Church provide examples of mortal sin in the catechism? I used to think masturbation was a venial sin. But I’ve since learned that it was a mortal sin from fellow Catholics.
 
Katholikos64 said:
Mind providing a link? Thanks. 🙂
Click to expand...
The ten commandments are the decalogue. Probably don’t need a link for that one. Also, violating one of the precepts of the church or committing one of the sins that cry out to heaven. These are all grave matter.
 
KLJM12 said:
The ten commandments are the decalogue. Probably don’t need a link for that one. Also, violating one of the precepts of the church or committing one of the sins that cry out to heaven. These are all grave matter.
Click to expand...
I don’t think that masturbation is specifically addressed in the ten commandments if you just read them as written.

OP - Here is a link that will help…On sin in general…and This Link on sin related to chastity…

Hope this helps…

Peace
James
 
would fall under that of to Love God with all your heart and soul. or the ten
Commandments defined by the seven deadly sins.
If you drank some wine in the sense of with meal to aid in the digestion of food, verse if you drank wine to self medicate yourself to escape from our trials and tribulations.
You might have a beer to acknowledge that of a hard days work, but to comsume beer out of addiction to excape and be off away from the kids and wife, that would be a sin.

To do so, in an self exploration or curiousity of our body, is one thing, but to come to do it that it comes to be a issue of your self loving yourself, and not others, coming to be you give more to the action, and it gets in front of God and to love him, not yourself, then its an issue. discipline is the key, to stay away from that which can in anyway develope to be a escape from.

Ponography is equal example, To look at pictures of beauty, to appreciate art, and the wonders that nudity has brought to many works of Art. yet addiction to ponography is now a national crisis as people are drawn to it for all the wrong reason, an adddiction, not an appreciation…

Borrowing of money is another example that the church recognizes as a sin, but today people come addicted to.

and lets not forget the unjustified war of today that is a sin, but is condoned in ignorance as well.

fault finding of others, is a huge sin, yet we have a moral obligation to admonish the sinner in a loving and caring heart in the right place way, as to we as Catholics welcome being Judged for a following of God, as Jesus did.
 
Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith: “Now according to Christian tradition and the Church’s teaching, and as right reason also recognizes, the moral order of sexuality involves such high values of human life that every direct violation of this order is objectively serious.” (Cardinal Seper, CDF, Persona Humana, n. X.)
 
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."137 “The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose.” For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of “the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved.” 138

To form an equitable judgment about the subjects’ moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety, or other psychological or social factors that lessen or even extenuate moral culpability.

vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P85.HTM
 
Missing Sunday or Holy Day Mass --without dispensation or excusing reason (sick).
 
Borrowing of money is another example that the church recognizes as a sin, but today people come addicted to.
Click to expand...
Why does the church consider borrowing money a sin? I borrow money for legitimate purposes. (i.e. for school, bills, etc). And I always pay the person back.
 
Katholikos64 said:
Why does the church consider borrowing money a sin? I borrow money for legitimate purposes. (i.e. for school, bills, etc). And I always pay the person back.
Click to expand...
I think you are referring to the sin of usury, which is not the sin of borrowing money. Usury occurs when the lender charges excessive interest of the borrower.

In the teaching of Veritatis Splendor and the CCC, the three fonts of morality are the sole determinant of whether an act is a sin or not, and of whether an act is a mortal sin or a venial sin. An act is objectively a mortal sin (a grave sin), if any one or more of the three fonts is gravely disordered, as judged according to the requirement to love God above all else and to love your neighbor as yourself.
  1. intention
    A gravely disordered intention, such as malice, makes an act objectively a mortal sin.
  2. moral object
    A gravely disordered moral object makes an act objectively a mortal sin. In other words, certain types of intrinsically evil acts are inherently gravely disordered, and so are objectively mortal sins.
  3. circumstances
    If the reasonably anticipated bad consequences of an act gravely outweigh, in moral terms, the reasonably anticipated good consequences, then the act is objectively a grave sin.
But for an act to be an actual mortal sin, the objectively grave sin must be committed with full knowledge and full deliberation (full consent).
 
Ron_Conte said:
I think you are referring to the sin of usury, which is not the sin of borrowing money. Usury occurs when the lender charges excessive interest of the borrower.

In the teaching of Veritatis Splendor and the CCC, the three fonts of morality are the sole determinant of whether an act is a sin or not, and of whether an act is a mortal sin or a venial sin. An act is objectively a mortal sin (a grave sin), if any one or more of the three fonts is gravely disordered, as judged according to the requirement to love God above all else and to love your neighbor as yourself.
  1. intention
    A gravely disordered intention, such as malice, makes an act objectively a mortal sin.
  2. moral object
    A gravely disordered moral object makes an act objectively a mortal sin. In other words, certain types of intrinsically evil acts are inherently gravely disordered, and so are objectively mortal sins.
  3. circumstances
    If the reasonably anticipated bad consequences of an act gravely outweigh, in moral terms, the reasonably anticipated good consequences, then the act is objectively a grave sin.
But for an act to be an actual mortal sin, the objectively grave sin must be committed with full knowledge and full deliberation (full consent).
Click to expand...
Thanks for clarifying! 😃
 
Katholikos64 said:
Thanks for clarifying! 😃
Click to expand...
This section from the Catechism of the Catholic Church is better than any of us in explaining such: scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s1c1a4.htm

and

scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s1c1a8.htm

and Compendium
  1. When does one commit a mortal sin?
1855-1861
1874

One commits a mortal sin when there are simultaneously present: grave matter, full knowledge, and deliberate consent. This sin destroys charity in us, deprives us of sanctifying grace, and, if unrepented, leads us to the eternal death of hell. It can be forgiven in the ordinary way by means of the sacraments of Baptism and of Penance or Reconciliation.
  1. When does one commit a venial sin?
1862-1864
1875

One commits a venial sin, which is essentially different from a mortal sin, when the matter involved is less serious or, even if it is grave, when full knowledge or complete consent are absent. Venial sin does not break the covenant with God but it weakens charity and manifests a disordered affection for created goods. It impedes the progress of a soul in the exercise of the virtues and in the practice of moral good. It merits temporal punishment which purifies.

vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html
 
The grave matters (1 of the 3 conditions for mortal sin) are scattered throughout the Catechism of The Catholic Church (Pope John Paul II said the catechism is “a sure norm for teaching the faith”)
Catechism of the Catholic Church Reference Numbers 2272, 2480, 2380, 2148, 2434, 2181, 2117, 2384 to 2386, 2290 & 2291, 2539, 2277, 2302, 2152 & 2476, 2353, 2303, 2357, 2388, 2482, 2352, 2268, 2163, 2354, 2355, 2356, 2439, 2120, 2284, 2281, 2297, 2413 & 2434, 2268, 2400, 2434:
  • Abortion (any formal cooperation in it)
  • Code: 
    Acceptance by human society of murderous famines without trying to fix it
  • Code: 
    Adulation of another's grave faults if it makes one an accomplice in another's vices or grave sins, but it is not grave when it only seeks to be agreeable, to avoid evil, to meet a need, or to obtain legitimate advantages.
  • Code: 
    Adultery
  • Code: 
    Blasphemy
  • Code: 
    Deliberate failure to go to mass on Holy Days of Obligation unless excused for a serious reason or dispensed by one's own pastor
  • Code: 
    Divination, magic, and sorcery
  • Code: 
    Divorce (If civil divorce, which cannot do anything to the spiritual marriage in the eyes of God, remains the only possible way of ensuring certain legal rights, the protection of inheritance, or the care of the children it is not a sin.)
  • Code: 
    Drug Abuse
  • Code: 
    Endangering their own and others' safety by drunkenness or a love of speed on the road, at sea or in the air
  • Code: 
    Envy (if to the level of wishing grave harm to another)
  • Code: 
    Euthanasia
  • Code: 
    Extreme Anger (at the level of truly and deliberately desiring to seriously hurt or kill someone)
  • Code: 
    Fornication
  • Code: 
    Hatred of a neighbor/to deliberately desire him or her great harm
  • Code: 
    Homosexual acts
  • Code: 
    Incest
  • Code: 
    Lying (the gravity is measured by "the truth it deforms, the circumstances, the intentions of the one who lies, and the harm suffered by its victims")
  • Code: 
    Masturbation
  • Code: 
    Murder (except when done in self defense or defense of others when there is no other way)
  • Code: 
    Perjury and False Oaths
  • Code: 
    Polygamy
  • Code: 
    Pornography
  • Code: 
    Prostitution
  • Code: 
    Rape
  • Code: 
    Rich nation's refusal to aid those which are unable to ensure the means of their development by themselves
  • Code: 
    Sacrilege
  • Code: 
    Scandal (deliberately causing someone to sin gravely)
  • Code: 
    Suicide
  • Code: 
    Terrorism that threatens, wounds and kills indiscriminately
  • Code: 
    Unfair wagers and cheating at games unless the damage is unusually light
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top