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I am currently taking RCIA classes at a parish near my house. The church is run by Jesuits. Anyways, last week a priest came to class to discuss the structure of the church. He went on to say that priests should be able to marry and women should be deacons and that the current pope was just “too old” to change.

I feel like he was trying to present a view of the church that was more palatable for potential converts. On the other hand, he is entitled to his opinion. I felt kind of off-put by the whole thing. I kind of wish I were doing the RCIA class somewhere else. Maybe I should just focus on the other things they are teaching in class. Any advice?
 
I am currently taking RCIA classes at a parish near my house. The church is run by Jesuits. Anyways, last week a priest came to class to discuss the structure of the church. He went on to say that priests should be able to marry and women should be deacons and that the current pope was just “too old” to change.

I feel like he was trying to present a view of the church that was more palatable for potential converts. On the other hand, he is entitled to his opinion. I felt kind of off-put by the whole thing. I kind of wish I were doing the RCIA class somewhere else. Maybe I should just focus on the other things they are teaching in class. Any advice?
Greetings Qp1982,

Do you have a change to take RCIA classes at another parish? Some of the Jesuits can be very progressive and liberal in their beliefs and the way they practice their faith.

God Bless.
Anathama Sit
 
I am currently taking RCIA classes at a parish near my house. The church is run by Jesuits. Anyways, last week a priest came to class to discuss the structure of the church. He went on to say that priests should be able to marry and women should be deacons and that the current pope was just “too old” to change.

I feel like he was trying to present a view of the church that was more palatable for potential converts. On the other hand, he is entitled to his opinion. I felt kind of off-put by the whole thing. I kind of wish I were doing the RCIA class somewhere else. Maybe I should just focus on the other things they are teaching in class. Any advice?
I am doing RCIA at a more conservative parish and I have been been fortunate to receive only orthodox teachings. I definitely think that searching for a different group is not out of the question; but I also think that, if you choose to stay, you should not be afraid to admonish those that you hear making remarks like that.
 
I am currently taking RCIA classes at a parish near my house. The church is run by Jesuits. Anyways, last week a priest came to class to discuss the structure of the church. He went on to say that priests should be able to marry and women should be deacons and that the current pope was just “too old” to change.

I feel like he was trying to present a view of the church that was more palatable for potential converts. On the other hand, he is entitled to his opinion. I felt kind of off-put by the whole thing. I kind of wish I were doing the RCIA class somewhere else. Maybe I should just focus on the other things they are teaching in class. Any advice?
I encountered worse, and from a person higher in the Church, in my RCIA. It sounds like you are able to discern truth from falsehood in their presentation of the Catholic faith, and that’s a good thing. Whether you start doing RCIA at another parish is up to you and depends on details of your situation we can’t know. If you choose to stay in your current program just keep a discerning mind and don’t let defects in others’ beliefs deter you from the Catholic faith. It’s one of the great things about our Church that you really have clear-cut orthodoxy vs. heterodoxy, even if not everyone you meet at your parish or even in the clergy will be on the side of orthodoxy.
 
For the sake of orthodoxy (truth) and peace in your soul, dearest one, find another place to learn about God’s Grace and his Church! And while there, pray for that Jesuit, that he has a conversion of heart.

Blessings
 
If it is possible I would change RCIA programs as soon as possible. If you heard this kind of presentation on something as straight forward as the structure of the Church, who knows what they will be teaching on the Eucharist, abortion, same sex marriage, etc…
 
I am currently taking RCIA classes at a parish near my house. The church is run by Jesuits. Anyways, last week a priest came to class to discuss the structure of the church. He went on to say that priests should be able to marry and women should be deacons and that the current pope was just “too old” to change.

I feel like he was trying to present a view of the church that was more palatable for potential converts. On the other hand, he is entitled to his opinion. I felt kind of off-put by the whole thing. I kind of wish I were doing the RCIA class somewhere else. Maybe I should just focus on the other things they are teaching in class. Any advice?
That is very unfortunate.

He is, of course, entitled to his opinion about whether Priests should be permitted to marry. That is a practice and tradition of the Church, but it is not a Doctrine and could conceivably be changed (though I think it is quite unlikely to). He is free to express his opinion, but he should have done so in a way that made it clear that it was his opinion only, and he also should have explained in a fair way why the Church maintains the discipline of celibacy for Priests (even though he personally disagrees with it). That’s part of his responsibility as a teacher and a Priest.

However, women cannot be Deacons and the Church has been very clear that it has no authority to ordain women with Holy Orders at any level (Deacon, Priest, or Bishop). This is a matter of Doctrine, and it will not change. Again, all who teach RCIA (including Priests) have a responsibility to explain this clearly, in obedience to the Church and for the spiritual well-being of RCIA students. We should be very careful not to lead anybody into error or to give people erroneous impressions that matters of doctrine can change. Part of why I’m Catholic is because the Church’s doctrines don’t change with the wind!

It may well be a go idea to try and find a more orthodox parish near you to go through RCIA, if possible…at least if this Priest is involved in teaching the program. If he was just a one-time visitor, then perhaps it would be premature to leave. In fact, if he was just a one-time visitor, you might consider mentioning your concerns to the RCIA director or even the pastor. They have responsibility for teaching you all correctly (speaking as an RCIA director myself).

But if they are the problem, well, there’s not much you can do other than go somewhere else. I hope you are able to find a place that values an accurate teaching of the faith. God bless you!
 
As a participant in the RCIA process, you have the right to be taught what the Church teaches in a straightforward manner, without having to sift through the presenter’s personal opinions on the subject under discussion.

Before commenting on whether you should change RCIA programs, I just have a few questions:

Are other subjects treated in the same way, or was this a unique situation?

Is this priest likely to be giving talks frequently at your classes, or is he just a one-time guest speaker?

Is he the pastor of the parish? Is he on staff? Or just visiting, or just in residence?

I would say that if it is the general trend of that particular RCIA class that speakers come and present their personal opinions rather than the straight teaching of the Church, then it would probably be a good idea for you to move on and find a different RCIA to attend.

However, if they are generally orthodox, then just write it off as a bad experience, and continue on with the process at that parish.
 
Hello,

thank you all for your replies.

I would say in general, this was a little out of the ordinary. This priest (who is a priest at the parish) will come for 2 other lectures over the course of the year. He seemed to be speaking from a place of worry about declining numbers in the western church and declining numbers of priests. In general, I do not feel like they are teaching anything otherwise incorrect. I will probably stay with this program for the time being unless other things happen. I like the RCIA team.

Thanks again!
 
Hello,

thank you all for your replies.

I would say in general, this was a little out of the ordinary. This priest (who is a priest at the parish) will come for 2 other lectures over the course of the year. He seemed to be speaking from a place of worry about declining numbers in the western church and declining numbers of priests. In general, I do not feel like they are teaching anything otherwise incorrect. I will probably stay with this program for the time being unless other things happen. I like the RCIA team.

Thanks again!
Greetings Qp1982,

It is encouragintg that you can tell the difference between what is Magisterial Teaching and what is not. I will keep you in my prayers as well as this priest.

God Bless.
Anathama Sit
 
You should stay and learn from the RCIA program, it isn’t the responsibility of the people trying to convert to the Catholic faith to “weed out” all the wrong teachings that come from people in authority.
 
… last week a priest came to class to discuss the structure of the church. He went on to say that priests should be able to marry and women should be deacons and that the current pope was just “too old” to change.
I hope you will ask the RCIA leaders to clarify the Church’s teachings at the beginning of your next session. If you know their e-mail addresses or phone numbers, please call them to ask them to do this.

The RCIA leaders are supposed to help all who attend the sessions to fall in love with Christ and with His holy Church. Complaints and negative comments about our Pope do not help do that.
 
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